No need anymore. She's currently sending her resume to CNN or MSNBC.

Yes and no. She returns to the faculty. I am still curious - 50 plagiarism allegations for a faculty member... are faculty commonly held to the same standard as students?

White privilege.

BREAKING: Claudine Gay resigns. In her resignation letter, she played the race card instead of owning up to her plagiarism.

Claudine Gay is the Harvard of DEI hires.

Marc Tessier-Levigne is the Stanford of white privilege hires

Claudine Gay Gives Tearful Resignation Speech Entitled 'Gettysburg Address' https://t.co/i7WzsPIGXN pic.twitter.com/4GtJheZiwV

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 2, 2024

Alternate Babylon Bee headline: Tragic: Hamas Loses Two Leaders in One Day

This cheater and fraud is being allowed to return to her estimated $900,000 per year faculty job. What a ****ing joke.

Where's the outrage at Trump?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273287-trump-appears-to-have-plagiarized-carson-op-ed/amp/

Lotta White Supremacy going on at Ha-vard. Are all the cheaters Liberal?

Harvard President
Stanford President
Pocahontas Warren - fake Native American
Elizabeth Hoover - Cal - fake Native American
Three profs- University of Kansas
UC Riverside prof - fake NA

"Jacqueline Keeler, a writer who investigates people who falsely claim Indigenous ancestry for personal gain, and who posted the details of Smith's agreement earlier this month, told Inside Higher Ed: "Academia is basically a pretendian factory."

"It is the ultimate form of colonization, where they actually become us instead of actually listening to us," she told the outlet."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/28/california-professor-resigns-native-american-heritage

https://apnews.com/article/berkeley-professor-false-native-identity-apology-dabc6d97dcb6f96aedc6c6c62b4975ee

https://www.thecollegefix.com/three-university-of-kansas-professors-face-allegations-of-fake-native-american-ancestry/

So this thread went in a different direction…

Anyways, looks like she's going back to being Professor and a Faculty of Arts and Sciences Dean. She will make almost 900K. Nice gig if you can land it…I had no idea said positions paid so much. At least now we know why college is so expensive.

dajo9 said:

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Where's the outrage at Trump?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273287-trump-appears-to-have-plagiarized-carson-op-ed/amp/

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I'm not "outraged" by any of it. I'm curious. My 1st semester of my frosh year I got a D- on a paper for not using citations properly. It was very embarrassing/humiliating. I learned my lesson and it never happened again. I am a little shocked at the report of 50 instances of plagiarism…how does someone get away with that? How does someone reach a high level of academia and not know better? That led to my question - maybe faculty are held to a different standard????

Dr. Harry Edwards allegedly had a thin, uninspiring doctoral thesis (?) and was denied tenure. I believe his book Sociology of Sport only had a one-page bibliography.

"Although he published widely and taught oversubscribed classes for years, Edwards was denied tenure in 1977. Media coverage and campus protests over the decision drew national and even international attention. "I am going to turn the lights out at the University of California at Berkeley. I am going to be the last to leave," he told The New York Times. The decision was reversed that summer, and Edwards remained at Berkeley for nearly another 25 years."

https://andscape.com/features/harry-edwards-mexico-city-olympics-sports-activism-john-carlos-tommie-smith-1968/

New conservative weapon.....PLAGERISM!!! (Dun dun dunnnnnnn) -Associated Press

Harvard president's resignation highlights new conservative weapon against colleges: plagiarism https://t.co/GiVkT3LgUo

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 3, 2024

edit:

SHOCK: Disgraced Harvard President Gay released her resignation letter this morning. I ran the letter through Grammarly's plagiarism checker and to my surprise it found evidence of plagiarism. Full text of her letter is the next post in this thread. pic.twitter.com/i2TlqJisMM

— @amuse (@amuse) January 2, 2024

@amuse is great.

Washington Free Beacon: Harvard President Claudine Gay Hit With Six New Charges Of Plagiarism

Half of Gay's published works now implicated in growing scandal

Harvard students opin that they're routinely suspended for such violations.

https://freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-president-claudine-gay-hit-with-six-new-charges-of-plagiarism/

???

HARVARD: Remember, as Claudine Gay steps down as president she will still be employed by Harvard and will not face any disciplinary action for her academic dishonesty or the coverup. If she wasn’t a professor of color she would be fired. Do you agree? pic.twitter.com/aCun6OVKXq

— @amuse (@amuse) January 3, 2024

If she were the leader of a fascist movement it would all be ignored

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What is she accused of?

-Not supporting an unadulterated endless and indiscriminate bombing of Gaza?

-Explaining to people why Palestinians just *might* be pissed off about their treatment by Israel in both Gaza and the West Bank?????


Interesting to see how Trumpists are behind this. They just want to rage at whoever. I don't think they think or care about informing themselves of facts or the perspectives.

Brain dead Deplorables.

As for Jews who take that stance, well, yeah, that's to be expected, unfortunately.

People get blindsided easily.

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She is being accused of plagiarism.

And condoning antisemitism on campus.

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And condoning antisemitism on campus.

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Yes, she was also accused of that earlier. Please note that she would not be accused of plagiarism if she hadn't indeed committed rampant plagiarism throughout her career. This isn't a sham accusation.

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movielover said:

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And condoning antisemitism on campus.

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Yes, she was also accused of that earlier. Please note that she would not be accused of plagiarism if she hadn't indeed committed rampant plagiarism throughout her career. This isn't a sham accusation.

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The thread has gone in down a classic OT path...

I created the post with broader plagiarism in academia type considerations. Maybe I am naive or just out of touch but 50 instances of plagiarism??? How does the university not care enough about its academic reputation to allow this? The Stanford president resigned with 4 allegations of manipulated research data. Furd reportedly knew of the allegations from peer review stuff and didn't do anything...until the student newspaper reported on it. There's another prominent example I can't quite remember - something like a famous academic study on honesty included falsified data??? I realize that is only 3 examples and we have a gazillion universities in this nation but it just seems like things are out of whack in academia.

tequila4kapp said:

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The thread has gone in down a classic OT path...

I created the post with broader plagiarism in academia type considerations. Maybe I am naive or just out of touch but 50 instances of plagiarism??? How does the university not care enough about its academic reputation to allow this? The Stanford president resigned with 4 allegations of manipulated research data. Furd reportedly knew of the allegations from peer review stuff and didn't do anything...until the student newspaper reported on it. There's another prominent example I can't quite remember - something like a famous academic study on honesty included falsified data??? I realize that is only 3 examples and we have a gazillion universities in this nation but it just seems like things are out of whack in academia.

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I've talked to my brother (a former academic) about this. His view is that there is a lot of like "boilerplate" across academia and that it really depends on the nature of the plagiarism. There are a lot of customs around when and how to cite prior work. Here's an article from the Harvard Crimson about this.


I'm not defending Gay, I have no doubt that she crossed some sort of line if Harvard was willing to can her over this, but I expect that we will see this charge leveled more and more and weaponized politically.

To wit.

Gorsuch was found to have "copied the structure and language used by several authors and failed to cite source material in his book and an academic article, according to documents."

Oddly, right-wing actors haven't asked for his resignation. So strange.https://t.co/hyp7tT4N5I

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) January 3, 2024

Unit2Sucks said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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The thread has gone in down a classic OT path...

I created the post with broader plagiarism in academia type considerations. Maybe I am naive or just out of touch but 50 instances of plagiarism??? How does the university not care enough about its academic reputation to allow this? The Stanford president resigned with 4 allegations of manipulated research data. Furd reportedly knew of the allegations from peer review stuff and didn't do anything...until the student newspaper reported on it. There's another prominent example I can't quite remember - something like a famous academic study on honesty included falsified data??? I realize that is only 3 examples and we have a gazillion universities in this nation but it just seems like things are out of whack in academia.

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I've talked to my brother (a former academic) about this. His view is that there is a lot of like "boilerplate" across academia and that it really depends on the nature of the plagiarism. There are a lot of customs around when and how to cite prior work. Here's an article from the Harvard Crimson about this.


I'm not defending Gay, I have no doubt that she crossed some sort of line if Harvard was willing to can her over this, but I expect that we will see this charge leveled more and more and weaponized politically.

To wit.

Gorsuch was found to have "copied the structure and language used by several authors and failed to cite source material in his book and an academic article, according to documents."

Oddly, right-wing actors haven't asked for his resignation. So strange.https://t.co/hyp7tT4N5I

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) January 3, 2024

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I shrugged my shoulders over the initial allegations. It sounded like the same type of thing I did as a 1st term frosh. I would say it is especially bad for her because she was way more advanced in her academic career but in the grand scheme of things...meh. But these later allegations included charges of large passages being lifted verbatim, as well as the shear volume of times that she cheated...yikes...and they are still keeping her on as a professor. WTH???

tequila4kapp said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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The thread has gone in down a classic OT path...

I created the post with broader plagiarism in academia type considerations. Maybe I am naive or just out of touch but 50 instances of plagiarism??? How does the university not care enough about its academic reputation to allow this? The Stanford president resigned with 4 allegations of manipulated research data. Furd reportedly knew of the allegations from peer review stuff and didn't do anything...until the student newspaper reported on it. There's another prominent example I can't quite remember - something like a famous academic study on honesty included falsified data??? I realize that is only 3 examples and we have a gazillion universities in this nation but it just seems like things are out of whack in academia.

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I've talked to my brother (a former academic) about this. His view is that there is a lot of like "boilerplate" across academia and that it really depends on the nature of the plagiarism. There are a lot of customs around when and how to cite prior work. Here's an article from the Harvard Crimson about this.


I'm not defending Gay, I have no doubt that she crossed some sort of line if Harvard was willing to can her over this, but I expect that we will see this charge leveled more and more and weaponized politically.

To wit.

Gorsuch was found to have "copied the structure and language used by several authors and failed to cite source material in his book and an academic article, according to documents."

Oddly, right-wing actors haven't asked for his resignation. So strange.https://t.co/hyp7tT4N5I

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) January 3, 2024

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I shrugged my shoulders over the initial allegations. It sounded like the same type of thing I did as a 1st term frosh. I would say it is especially bad for her because she was way more advanced in her academic career but in the grand scheme of things...meh. But these later allegations included charges of large passages being lifted verbatim, as well as the shear volume of times that she cheated...yikes...and they are still keeping her on as a professor. WTH???

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Maybe it was a negotiated settlement? Or perhaps they don't have nearly a strong enough case to terminate a tenured prof? I have no idea but I wonder whether she is going to stay there for very long after all of this mess. Her testimony was a mess and she damaged the university, she should have been fired from her leadership role for that alone.

Unit2Sucks said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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The thread has gone in down a classic OT path...

I created the post with broader plagiarism in academia type considerations. Maybe I am naive or just out of touch but 50 instances of plagiarism??? How does the university not care enough about its academic reputation to allow this? The Stanford president resigned with 4 allegations of manipulated research data. Furd reportedly knew of the allegations from peer review stuff and didn't do anything...until the student newspaper reported on it. There's another prominent example I can't quite remember - something like a famous academic study on honesty included falsified data??? I realize that is only 3 examples and we have a gazillion universities in this nation but it just seems like things are out of whack in academia.

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I've talked to my brother (a former academic) about this. His view is that there is a lot of like "boilerplate" across academia and that it really depends on the nature of the plagiarism. There are a lot of customs around when and how to cite prior work. Here's an article from the Harvard Crimson about this.


I'm not defending Gay, I have no doubt that she crossed some sort of line if Harvard was willing to can her over this, but I expect that we will see this charge leveled more and more and weaponized politically.

To wit.

Gorsuch was found to have "copied the structure and language used by several authors and failed to cite source material in his book and an academic article, according to documents."

Oddly, right-wing actors haven't asked for his resignation. So strange.https://t.co/hyp7tT4N5I

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) January 3, 2024

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The replies to that ridiculously vapid tweet are gold.

Ha ha, ok we will wait for all that.

Imagine taking a strong stand in defense of…plagiarism.

Does *Harvard* normally worry about what “right wing media” has to say? Or did the truth about their president become too embarrassing for the institution to cover for?

— Seth Barron (@SethBarronNYC) January 3, 2024

Let the plagiarism witch hunt begin.
You go get those rascally right wing academics who’ve inexplicably gotten anywhere near positions of power in major universities!
Go! Get em!

— Paul Suda (@paul_suda) January 3, 2024