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  1. #16
    Really got to get Reece Whitley. Is Levant a shoo-in for Texas since he lives there? Who is our next best bet for the 200free? Is there a foreign swimmer we can recruit? How do teams like NC State, Louisville, Florida, et al get so many foreign recruits. Is money no object for them?

  2. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by longseeker View Post
    Really got to get Reece Whitley. Is Levant a shoo-in for Texas since he lives there? Who is our next best bet for the 200free? Is there a foreign swimmer we can recruit? How do teams like NC State, Louisville, Florida, et al get so many foreign recruits. Is money no object for them?
    Don't they get tons of foreigners for the same reason our women's polo team gets foreigners I.e can't land the top domestic players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socaliganbear View Post
    Don't they get tons of foreigners for the same reason our women's polo team gets foreigners I.e can't land the top domestic players?
    Pretty much.

    Florida produces more than enough in-state talent and FSU and Miami (no men's team) are no threat in recruiting or in the pool, but Gregg Troy's old school training methods are brutal and they can't attract or retain enough elite in-state or domestic talent to win NCAAs. Women's team has only won twice and men's team has never finished higher than third. That's chronic underachievement similar to Illinois in basketball. Georgia and Auburn would never have been powers without Florida talent.

    NC State and Louisville recruit internationally because their home states don't produce enough in-state talent. Average size populations and can't monopolize in-state talent. Charlotte's SwimMAC (Baker, Josa, Maija) and Louisville's Sacred Heart/Lakeside (Brooke Forde, Leah Stevens, Kennedy Lohman) all produced PAC swimmers.

    Louisville's head coach is Brazilian and they have a Russian asst coach. NC State has a dynamic young coach and great sprints, but neither program has ever won any NCAA team titles.

    Indiana is somewhat different: slightly above average size state, but a legendary men's dynasty. Can't land Carmel talent (Kibler, Amy, Claire Adams, Burchills), so have to backfill with Canadians. Looze is an awesome coach and Lilly King is extraordinary, but tough to move up against traditional powers from huge states. The coaching carousel set off when Eddie Reese retires could be devastating for NC State and IU.

    A stellar international is great, but comes with significant risk/cost: SCY conversion, language/cultural issues, no financial aid. Taylor Ruck is low risk: competes in SCYs in Arizona and a native English speaker.

    Teri & Durden have built-in advantages: huge in-state swim talent, great tradition, world class swimming and academics. Build the bulk of the team with in-state talent, add elite national recruits, and selectively cherry pick internationals.

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    Alex Zettle --------------> Texas

    Lots of activity on the women side but looks like the longhorn got instate recruit Alex Zettle Nat #38, Tx #6. Don't know if it true or not someone posted on the Alex's thread also that they have another early verbal from Texas Matthew Willenbring Nat #6, Tx #2. Haven't verified it but If true this would bring Texas total to 4 (Daniel Krueger Nat #17 and Charlie Scheinfeld Nat #45). Texas and the Gators (5 recruits) seem to getting quite a few early recruits. No verbal to Cal yet but still keeping my finger cross for Reece Whitley.

    https://swimswam.com/texas-men-reel-...r-alex-zettle/

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    Jack Levant --------------------------------------> Furd (ville)

    Quote Originally Posted by longseeker View Post
    Really got to get Reece Whitley. Is Levant a shoo-in for Texas since he lives there?
    Nope

    #11 JACK LEVANT VERBALLY COMMITS TO STANFORD FOR 2018-19 He is ranked #

    He is ranked #11 on swimswam but tied for #1 on College Swimming. This is the 2nd men recruit for ...ford. Looking at the picture he seems kind of petite!

    Top SCY times:
    200 fly – 1:45.20
    100 fly – 47.68
    200 back – 1:45.06
    100 back – 48.89
    50 back – 22.47
    500 free – 4:18.20
    200 free – 1:35.42
    100 free – 43.98
    200 IM – 1:48.39


    https://swimswam.com/11-jack-levant-...nford-2018-19/
    Last edited by OBear073akaSMFan; 06-16-2017 at 04:39 PM.

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    Haven't been following swim recruiting lately but I assume y'all of seen that #1 overall recruit Reece Whitley committed?



    https://swimswam.com/top-20-ncaa-swi...ol-class-2018/

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    Just wanted to bump this - this is big news!

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    A 6 minute bump might be the fast one ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoragaBear View Post
    Haven't been following swim recruiting lately but I assume y'all of seen that #1 overall recruit Reece Whitley committed?



    https://swimswam.com/top-20-ncaa-swi...ol-class-2018/
    Wow! That is a huge pickup!!!!! Durden is God!!!
    Last edited by tedbear; 06-17-2017 at 04:38 PM.

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    Awesome get! Decent breast options (Seliskar, Sand), but definitely set for four years with RW. Kibler's great, but Sancov's close. Always risk with internationals (Moldova), but much lower with SCY experience and cultural/language issues (based in Walnut Creek). RW, Sancov, and fill in the rest with Californians.

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    Big pickup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TOP RANKED RECRUIT REECE WHITLEY VERBALS TO CAL




    Swimswam article https://swimswam.com/top-ranked-recr...y-verbals-cal/

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    Hey, best news of the week (& weekend)!!!

    Cheers for the quick reporting y'all !!!


    Apparently a very popular decision (& person) hehe, judging from the reaction to Reece's announcement on social media:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BVdQlzAFHaM/

    reecewhitley: Excited to announce my verbal commitment to the University of California, Berkeley! I'd like to thank my parents, close family, coach and friends for getting me this far in my career and for giving me this opportunity. The Cal Bear family is one like no other and I can't wait to join them in the fall of 2018!

    pcac_coachcrystal: Congratulations, Reece! Cal is lucky to have you and I couldn't be more proud of how far you've come the last 6 years!! Pumped for another summer season and an exciting senior year

    nathangadrian: Congrats! Welcome to the �� family!
    jacob.pebley: Yeahhh buddy
    ryan_f_murphy: Congrats baby! Make sure you kick @joshprenot off our intrasquad relay
    joshprenot: @ryan_f_murphy stop being mean to me online congrats Reese!!
    aukai.lileikis: CHEEEEEEEEEHUUUUUUU BRADDAH������������
    danielcacarr: Hell yeah man!! Can't wait to win some championships with you. Go Bears!
    bryce_mefford: Aye my boi!
    _jhatch:_Let's go!!! Welcome to the bear family ��

    cassidy_bayer: I'm so freaking excited.... I love you
    elisegarcia_13: congrats and go bears!!! ����
    evamerrell: congrats!!!!!!! so awesome ����
    alexwalsh7: Congrats !! Go bears ��
    isabel__ivey: so proud of you Reece
    jessicaeppss: Congrats!!

    grantshoults: Congrats on your commitment to that school across the bay �� Welcome to the Pac-12 man ����
    brooke4d: Guess we gotta be rivals now... but congrats anyway!!!!

    In addition to all the swimming & academic talent which Reece will be bringing to the table, another beary exciting potential contribution will be Reece's deep ties & close friendships with members of the US National Junior Team, something that is shared with fellow 2018 commit on the women's side, Cassidy Bayer!


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    National Junior Teamer Reece Whitley Verbally Commits to Cal




    https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.co...ommits-to-cal/


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    Reece Whitley Olympic Trials Focus: Gold Medal Minute Presented by SwimOutlet.com

    Published on May 30, 2016





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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 06-18-2017 at 06:37 PM. Reason: more insta comments

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    SwimSwam's Top 20 recruits for 2018


    Had originally posted this to the wrong thread a while back (oooops!), so relocating it here for reference:

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    TOP 20 NCAA SWIMMING RECRUITS IN THE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2018


    It's that time of year again where we at SwimSwam rank out the top 20 high school swimming prospects in the upcoming NCAA recruiting class. This is arguably the best breaststroke class we've ever ranked, headed by Junior World Champs silver medalist Reece Whitley. Archive Photo via Mike Lewis/Ola Vista Photography


    This Class
    • Best breaststroke class in years
    • Deep in the butterflys
    • Fairly thin in backstroke
    • Lots of dominant 200 freestylers
    • Versatility rules

    There’s a very-defined top 2 in this class, with really good arguments to be made for either one to take the top spot. That also serves as a mini-collision of the two real power events in this class – breaststroke and mid-sprint freestyle.

    This is the best breaststroke class we’ve ever ranked, and we’ve been ranking down recruiting classes since 2012. We’ve got 4 swimmers in our top 10 who would accurately classify as breaststroke specialists, with two more who have breaststroke events in their peripheral skill sets. That’s the most breaststrokers we’ve ever ranked in our top 20, and there were several more who just missed the list.

    The last class with this much incoming breaststroke talent was probably the class of 2015, which included Andrew Seliskar at #1 and Carsten Vissering at #4.

    There’s also a wealth of 200 freestylers in the class, including at least four under 1:35.0. Most of those guys have excellent range, and much of our top 20 is made up of guys who can contribute to multiple relays from 50 to 200 yards. Versatility is also at a premium in this class – it’s tough to exactly project 3 good NCAA events for each swimmer, and some guys are hurt a bit by some of their top events conflicting in the NCAA format (200 back/200 fly, for example, or 200 free/100 fly).

    It’s a deep butterfly class, with a lot of guys in the 47s and 48s. Backstroke is much more thin overall. But neither stroke has a surefire, instant-impact type swimmer, especially as the NCAA gets fast enough to require 45-second swims in either 100 to score points.

    The flipside of that firmly-established top-2 is that while there’s a noticeable dropoff from the elite tier, the second tier of athletes is really deep. We had at least 10 athletes beyond even our honorable mention group who had realistic arguments to be top 20. Developmental prospects abound in this group.


    TOP TIMES IN THE CLASS OF 2018
    50 Free | Drew Kibler | 19.66
    100 Free | Drew Kibler | 42.99
    200 Free | Drew Kibler | 1:33.30
    500 Free | Patrick Callan | 4:14.66
    1000 Free** | Robert Finke | 8:49.71
    1650 Free | Robert Finke | 14:37.71
    100 Back | Noah Henry | 47.15
    200 Back | Noah Henry | 1:44.81
    100 Breast | Reece Whitley | 51.84
    200 Breast | Reece Whitley | 1:52.37
    100 Fly | Cody Bybee | 46.97
    200 Fly | Andrew Koustik | 1:45.04
    200 IM | Reece Whitley | 1:43.93
    400 IM | Keith Myburgh | 3:45.85


    TOP 10 SWIMMERS FROM THE CLASS OF 2018

    1. Reece Whitley – Penn Charter Aquatic Club – William Penn Charter School – Lafayette Hill, PA **Verbally committed to Cal**
    Best Times: 200 breast – 1:52.37, 100 breast – 51.84, 200 IM – 1:43.93, 400 IM – 3:47.15, 200 fly – 1:48.80, 200 back – 1:47.14

    Whitley is the best NCAA breaststroke prospect since at least Andrew Seliskar. But he’s hardly a one-trick pony – Whitley has the class’s best 200 IM by almost three seconds. There’s really no downside to this guy as a recruit. Huge 6-foot-8-inch frame that should have plenty of room left to pack on muscle. He could even turn out to be a Breeja Larson type, who excels at breaststroke but can use a big frame to be a key free relay player too.


    2. Drew Kibler – Carmel Swim Club – Carmel High School – Carmel, IN **Verbally committed to Texas**
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:33.30, 100 free – 42.99, 50 free – 19.66, 500 free – 4:15.36, 200 back – 1:45.95, 100 back – 48.57, 200 fly – 1:49.26, 100 fly – 48.88

    3. Alexei Sancov – Terrapins Swim Team – Northgate High School – Walnut Creek, CA
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:34.06, 100 free – 43.46, 500 free – 4:19.85, 100 fly – 47.33, 200 fly – 1:47.18, 200 IM – 1:47.98, 50 free – 20.29

    4. Cody Bybee – Dayton Raiders – Bellbrook High School – Dayton, OH **Verbally committed to Arizona State**
    Best Times: 100 fly – 46.97, 200 free – 1:34.55, 200 fly – 1:47.66, 100 free – 43.78, 50 free – 20.36

    5. Max McHugh – Door County YMCA – Sevastapol High School – Sturgeon Bay, WI **Verbally committed to Minnesota**
    Best Times: 100 breast – 52.46, 200 breast – 1:55.38, 200 IM – 1:49.41

    6. Patrick Callan – Trident Aquatics Club – Bishop Kelley High School – Owasso, OK
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:34.06, 500 free – 4:14.66, 100 free – 44.50

    7. Robert Finke – Saint Petersburg Aquatics – Countryside High School – Clearwater, FL
    Best Times: 1650 free – 14:37.71, 1000 free – 8:49.71, 500 free – 4:20.86, 400 IM – 3:47.65, 200 back – 1:47.27, 200 fly – 1:48.65

    8. Kieran Smith – Ridgefield Aquatic Club– Ridgefield High School – Ridgefield, CT
    Best Times: 200 IM – 1:46.41, 400 IM – 3:46.07, 200 back – 1:45.52, 100 back – 49.11

    9. Trey Freeman – Baylor Swim Club – Baylor School – Chattanooga, TN **Verbally committed to Florida**
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:34.92, 500 free – 4:16.99, 1000 free – 8:56.30, 1650 free – 14:59.33, 100 free – 44.24, 50 free – 20.21, 200 back – 1:47.03

    10. Daniel Krueger – McFarland Spartan Sharks – McFarland High School – Deerfield, WI **Verbally committed to Texas**
    Best Times: 50 free – 19.84, 100 free – 43.38, 200 free – 1:35.58, 100 back – 49.02, 200 IM – 1:49.91


    11. Jack LeVant – North Texas Nadadores – Carroll High School – Southlake, TX **Verbally committed to Stanford**
    Best Times: 100 fly – 47.64, 200 fly – 1:45.20, 100 back – 48.89, 200 back – 1:45.06, 200 IM – 1:48.39, 100 free – 43.98, 200 free – 1:35.42, 500 free – 4:18.20, 50 free – 20.19

    12. Keith Myburgh – Virginia Gators – Hidden Valley High School – Roanoke, VA **Verbally committed to Virginia Tech**
    Best Times: 400 IM – 3:45.85, 100 breast – 54.80, 200 breast – 1:58.60, 200 IM – 1:48.13, 200 back – 1:47.16, 200 fly – 1:48.85

    13. Noah Henry – Tigershark Swim Team – Belton High School – Belton, TX
    Best Times: 100 back – 47.15, 200 back – 1:44.81, 100 fly – 48.13, 200 free – 1:37.92, 100 free – 44.87

    14. Daniel Roy – King Aquatic Club – Gonzaga Prep – Spokane, WA
    Best Times: 200 breast – 1:54.47, 100 breast – 54.10, 200 IM – 1:49.09

    15. Ariel Spektor – Bolles School Sharks – Bolles School – Jacksonville, FL **Verbally committed to USC**
    Best Times: 200 IM – 1:46.57, 100 fly – 47.39, 200 fly – 1:50.27, 200 free – 1:37.21, 100 free – 44.50, 100 breast – 56.03

    16. Matthew Willenbring – Austin Swim Club – Westlake High School – Austin, TX **Verbally committed to Texas**
    Best Times: 200 IM – 1:47.00, 200 free – 1:35.26, 100 free – 43.71, 50 free – 20.25

    17. Jason Park – Metroplex Aquatics – Allen High School – Allen, TX
    Best Times: 100 back – 47.82, 200 back – 1:45.79, 100 fly – 49.29, 50 free – 20.63

    18. Jonathan Cook – West Coast Aquatics – Jackson High School – Mill Creek, WA

    19. Jake Johnson – Delaware Swim Team – Mount Sophia Academy – New London Township, PA
    Best Times: 100 fly – 47.77, 200 fly – 1:46.78, 200 back – 1:45.38, 200 IM – 1:49.13, 400 IM – 3:51.84

    20. Clayton Bobo – Dads Swim Club – Stratford High School – Houston, TX
    Best Times: 50 free – 19.90, 100 free – 43.56, 100 fly – 48.18, 200 free – 1:38.18


    HONORABLE MENTIONS:

    • Andrew Abruzzo (Plymouth Whitemarsh Aquatics / Germantown Aquatics / Plymouth Meeting, PA)
    • Will Chan (SwimMAC Carolina / William Amos High School / Davidson, NC) **Verbally committed to Michigan**
    • Will Davis (Bolles School Sharks / Bolles School / Jacksonville, FL) **Verbally committed to Florida**
    • Andrew Koustik (Irvine Novaquatics / Calvary Chapel High School / Costa Mesa, CA)
    • Michael Brinegar (Mission Viejo Nadadores / Columbus North High School, Tesoro High School / Mission Viejo, CA)


    https://swimswam.com/top-20-ncaa-swi...ol-class-2018/


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    College Swimming's Top 20 recruits for 2018


    College Swimming's Top 20, from 1 June 2017:

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    Recruit Rankings

    Rank | Name | Commitment | Hometown | Power Index

    #1 | Trey Freeman | University of Florida | Chattanooga, TN | 1.00
    #1 | Jack LeVant | – | Southlake, TX | 1.00
    #1 | Alexei SANCOV | – | – | 1.00
    #1 | Kacper Stokowski | – | – | 1.00
    #5 | Drew Kibler | – | Carmel, IN | 1.05
    #6 | Matthew Willenbring | – | Austin, TX | 1.06
    #7 | Andrew Abruzzo | – | Plymouth Meeting, PA | 1.11
    #7 | Kieran Smith | – | Ridgefield, CT | 1.11
    #9 | Reece Whitley | University of California-Berkeley | Lafayette Hill, PA | 1.16
    10 | Robert Finke | – | Clearwater, FL | 1.17
    11 | Victor JOHANSSON | – | – | 1.18
    12 | Cody Bybee | Arizona State University | Dayton, OH | 1.20
    13 | Shaine Casas | – | Conroe, TX | 1.25
    14 | Keith Myburgh | Virginia Polytechnic Institute (Virginia Tech) | Roanoke, VA | 1.26
    15 | Ariel Spektor | University of Southern California | Jacksonville, FL | 1.28
    16 | Will Chan | University of Michigan | Davidson, NC | 1.29
    17 | Daniel Krueger | University of Texas | Deerfield, WI | 1.30
    18 | Willie Davis IV | University of Florida | Jacksonvile, FL | 1.32
    19 | Jake Johnson | – | New London Township , PA | 1.33
    20 | Antoni Kałużyński | – | – | 1.40


    https://www.collegeswimming.com/recr...nkings/2018/M/


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  15. #30
    Whitely is the key recruit in the 2018 class for the Bears. In the end, it turned into a Cal/Stanford decision as Reece is very academically oriented. While I would assume a paid ride into the Farm would be difficult for a student at Penn Charter to turn down, Reece seemed to be able to better see himself working with Dave Durden and the rest of the Cal swim family, and appears eager to take on the challenge of surviving at Berkeley versus having his hand held for four years. I think Dave was also able to sell him on his success at developing Olympic champions that simply is not happening at Stanford under Knapp.

    Reece (who may be 6'9" currently) projects as a A finalist in both breast individuals as a freshman, as well as possibly scoring NCAA points in the 200 IM.
    Texas has the bucks to spend in 2018 and has picked up a couple of major recruits including Kibler and Matt Willenbring (very talented and a good fit for the Cal program, unfortunately), but I think we have closed the gap with our last couple of recruiting classes and Whitely is the one recruit I thought Cal needed in this class. Texas needs to replace Will Licon's breaststroke contributions, and the best breaststroker in the last 3 recruiting classes is off the boards and coming to Berkeley.

    I know the coaches are in contact with local swimmer Sancov, but I believe there are admission hurdles that come into play. Although we have 9 rising seniors in 2017 including Connor Hoppe, Justin Lynch and Matt Josa, I wouldn't expect a large class in 2018 as the staff may decide to focus scholly $ on the 2019 recruiting class that has more high-end California representation.



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