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    2018 Women's Swimming Recruiting

    With the caveat that it's way too early

    Losses:

    -Noemie Thomas

    100/200 Fly, Fly legs on 200/400 Medley Relays

    -Val Hull

    50/100 Free, 200/400 Free Relays

    -Jasmine Mau

    100/200 Fly

    -Maija Roses

    100/200 Breast

    Needs:

    -Fly (individual and medley relays)
    -Sprint (50 to 200, individual and relays)
    -Distance (500 and 1650, 400 IM)
    -Breast (individual and medley relays)
    -Diving

    Outlook:

    Really deep recruiting class (in state, nationally, international). Bears don't have a lot of scholly $s with such a small class, but should be able to land 2-3 immediate impact recruits in areas of need. That's predicated on not bringing in a late transfer or recruit in 2017 and leveraging in state talent.

    Targets:

    -Eva Merrell-Corona Del Mar. Elite flyer/sprinter who could swim 5 relays for Bears. Bears are in good shape in fly with McL and Maddie, but Merrell's relay versatility is huge.

    -Taylor Ruck-Scottsdale, AZ. Canadian free/back prodigy living in AZ. Middle distance range (100 to 500). Lots of SCY experience. Same club as Hoffer, Bilquist, Keaton, Messy.

    -Samantha Shelton-Laguna Beach. Similar fly/sprint profile as Merrell. Same club as McL, Klaren, Norman, Forker.

    -Amelie Fackenthal-Carmichael. Drop dead sprinter-50/100 Free. Same club as Chenoa and Whittle.

    -Halladay Kinsey-Folsom and also DART. Both IMs, 200 Fly

    -Elise Garcia-Irvine. 50/100 Free

    -Vivian Wang-Saratoga 100 Free/200 IM

    -Jessica Epps-Mission Viejo 100 Free/100 Fly/200 IM. Same club as Shelton.

    -Mikki Thompson-Chino Hills 500, 400 IM

    Garcia, Wang, Epps, and Thompson all attended Cal Junior Day.

    Non-Cal ties:

    -Zoe Bartel-CO 100/200 Breast, 200 IM, Medley relays
    -Julia Cook-TX 50 to 200 Free sprinter
    -Grace Ariola-IL Sprinter/back
    -Cassidy Bayer-VA Flyer
    -Allie Raab-TN Breast
    -Madison Homovich-NC 500/1650, 400 IM
    -Mary Sophia Harvey-Quebec IMs
    Last edited by BearDevil; 12-15-2016 at 03:25 AM.

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    Really great list, BearDevil - with your caveat duly noted, it was a timely post nevertheless and much appreciated due to all the overlap on the 2017 women's recruiting thread! Sweet to see a comparable topic being posted on the men's side too btw, with well-informed observations from a bunch of folks

    I really like how you took the time to do the proper research in spite of the incomplete early data, and took a practical approach to selecting your list of potential candidates, taking into account the areas of need, the vacating talent (graduating seniors), scholly war chest capacity, prospects with potential ties to current Bears via their swim club, and other key areas

    #2 Taylor Ruck & #1 Eva Merrell are obvious must-gets - heavy hitters who will unfortunately be on every other coach's short lists. tedbear would naturally be ecstatic if we pull off recruiting his fave Canadian (after 2019 uberstar Penny Olesiak lol), but certain he wouldn't complain too much if #20 Mary-Sophie Harvey comes our way

    Agree that #15 Samantha Shelton & #18 Halladay Kinsey would be great assets, and realistic targets at that!

    Would also give a thumbs up to your choice of sprinters #5 Amalie Fackenthal and #3 Julia Cook who both made quite an impression at the recent Jr Nationals. Or if Amalie & Julia are unavailable, I'd def. be in for #21 Anya Goeders https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/348910/

    Then there's #5 Morgan Tankersley who raised quite a few eyebrows with her performances @ Florida's HS Champs. Her range extends up to a wicked 200 Free, with her 500 Free not being too shabby too: https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/365158/

    Nice to see all our known Cal Junior Day visitors included (#24 Garcia, #43 Epps, #57 Thompson, #74 Wang). Reckon #23 Emma Muzzy, an OBear discovery (thx ), should also be considered as she may be one of Teri's targets: https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/509286/

    Distance - #11 Nat Jr teamer Erica Sullivan could help Chenoa & Anina out, if #19 Madison Homovich doesn't come our way? https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/356546/

    Backstroke U may not have an immediate need for backstroke studs, but wouldn't be a bad thing to recruit a worthy successor to aces Amy & Kathleen, someone who can back up (pun intended haha) Keaton/Courtney/Aislinn in this area...thinking of #12 Lucie Nordmann: https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/291260/

    Have a feeling that #10 Allie Raab may be destined for the Farm or the Dawgs (legacy reasons), and wouldn't come as a complete surprise to me if #6 Cassidy Bayer or even #7 Zoe Bartel sign on to bat for the Dark Side, though hope I'm completely off here - esp with regards to Zoe, as finally getting a top class Breast stud (no disrespect to 2017 furdette Grace Zhao who really turned it on @ Winter Jrs) would take care of one of the few remaining weaknesses of Meehan's squad (actually come to think of it, would be a double whammy since Zoe would be so vital to the Bears in this critical area, though there's always Kate Douglass & Alex Walsh in the following classes).

    Keep in mind that 3/4 of the Dream Team will be gone by 2019, and mindful of some key recruiting misses in 2016 & 2017, we'll need to reload (and hopefully soon!) with some "immediate impact" talent, as well as patch up some of our top end depth weaknesses in a number of well-documented areas - if Cal plans to remain competitive with the Furdette juggernaut and a number of fast rising Division I teams!

    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 01-13-2017 at 06:20 PM. Reason: name typo

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    I'm typing this on my phone, so forgive me for typos and other grammatical errors. Thanks to BD for helping break the voodoo curse I have put on recruiting for the past two years by starting these threads. I'm sure it will confuse Meehan and Salo to look elsewhere for their recruiting targets 😆.

    First of all, we definitely agree on the two must gets, Taylor Ruck and Eva Merrell. These two are the most talented recruits in the class and the ones we have the most reasonable chance of landing. Ruck is an international level talent who along with her aforementioned Free range, is also an elite backstroker. The big bonus here is that Taylor is buddies with that other elite swimmer in Canada, what's her name? 😜 Merrell is the number one recruit in California who has ties with Katie, and is an elite in the Fly and Back.

    The one recruit I want badly, that we all fear is heading to the Furd, is Zoe Bartel. Like UAC said, it would be a double whammy because it would hurt us in an area of need, and make the Furd stronger, in their area of weakness.

    The last recruit I want to mention, because she seems to be flying under the radar is Mary-Sophie Harvey the French-Canadian who is the reigning world juniors champion in the 200 and 400 IM. I don't know of any connections to us, but if we had to reach out to any recruit and give it a huge try, it would be her. I would have to think she has a decent breast stroke too, if she is a great IMer, so she could possibly help on the medley relays.

    So my final, realistic wish list is Ruck, Merrell, MSH, and Shelton!

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    Phoebe's showing great promise as a spring boarder, so ideally would find a platform diver to complement her.

    Dream Team versatility is paying off big time in relay flexibility and Maddie, Keaton, and Robin fit the same template well. Teri's known for backstrokers, sprinters, and flyers, but two stroke stars (Natalie, Vollmer, Leverenz, Boots, Pelton, Missy, Farida, Dream Team) make her relays go.

    Teri could hone Eva's and Sam's fly and Ruck's back promise and plug them into monster relays thanks to their free mix.

    Long story short: Teri can win more NCAA team titles without 18 swim scorers, so should look for at least a spring and platform scorer on every future team.
    Last edited by BearDevil; 12-15-2016 at 04:49 AM.

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    Stats for some highly regarded recruits in the 2018 freshie class (also 2017, 2019 & 2020).

    Several of these prospects with quite promising versatility...take for example the 1st graphic below where the 100 Fly isn't necessarily their primary event or stroke:


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    USA Swimming: A look at the top 20 in the 100 Fly for 15-16. There's been a lot of fast swimming so far. Check out what it takes to make the lists.



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    USA Swimming: There are 7 boys & 37 girls who will be 17 or younger by next year's NCAA champs that have swum a time to get invited to last year's meet.



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    USA Swimming: It's been an active past couple of weeks for breaking NAG records. At least nine new ones & counting in December. #NAGRecords



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    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    Moving On Up: The Not-So-Junior Level Swims at Junior Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    The Top 8 Women in Each Event from Combined Winter Juniors

    https://swimswam.com/top-8-women-eve...inter-juniors/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearDevil View Post
    Non-Cal ties:
    -Mary Sophia Harvey-Quebec IMs
    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    #2 Taylor Ruck & #1 Eva Merrell are obvious must-gets - heavy hitters who will unfortunately be on every other coach's short lists. tedbear would naturally be ecstatic if we pull off recruiting his fave Canadian (after 2019 uberstar Penny Olesiak lol), but certain he wouldn't complain too much if #20 Mary-Sophie Harvey comes our way
    Quote Originally Posted by tedbear View Post
    The last recruit I want to mention, because she seems to be flying under the radar is Mary-Sophie Harvey the French-Canadian who is the reigning world juniors champion in the 200 and 400 IM. I don't know of any connections to us, but if we had to reach out to any recruit and give it a huge try, it would be her. I would have to think she has a decent breast stroke too, if she is a great IMer, so she could possibly help on the medley relays.
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    HARVEY SNAGS CANADIAN RECORD, BERNARD BETTERS NAG RECORD IN TORONTO





    At the 2016 Ontario Junior International Mary-Sophie Harvey has been absolutely on fire, taking down two national records in order to earn herself two wins here in Toronto.

    Last night, Harvey won the 400m IM in a new Canadian record time of 4:26.42, bettering the 4:29.22 record held by Tanya Hunks since 2009 and the time that Sarah Darcel went at the Short Course World Championships in Windsor just last week.

    Tonight, Harvey showed her speed in the 400m freestyle, taking down a 13-year-old NAG record set by Brittany Reimer back in December of 2003. Her time also bettered Savannah King’s 4:02.72 senior Canadian record that was set in 2012.

    Harvey dropped a total of 13-seconds off her entry time, and over five-seconds off her prelims time in order to dip under Reimer’s 4:03.61 mark by over a full second. At the touch, Harvey was a 4:02.23 to also dip under King’s mark.

    That swim marks Harvey’s second senior Canadian record of her career following last night’s record in the 400m IM.

    Harvey’s time would have placed her fifth at last week’s short course world championships.

    Following her stunning 400m freestyle tonight, Harvey swam a 2:24 in the women’s 200m breaststroke to finish second to Sarah Darcel.


    https://swimswam.com/harvey-snags-ca...ecord-toronto/


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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 01-13-2017 at 06:21 PM. Reason: quoted posts

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    No way to convert 400 SCM/LCM to 500 SCY, but MSH's 400 Free times are reasonably close to fellow Canadian/former Georgia swimmer Brittany MacLean, who was an NCAA record holder in the 500 Free.

    MSH's converted IM times would have been 2nd (400 IM) and 5th (200 IM) at the 2016 NCAAs. MSH would likely swim 500 Free/200 IM, 400 IM, and 1650/200 Breast for the Bears. 200 IM is the only event where the 2019 Bears project any depth (KB and Keaton).

    Bears have been very successful in BC (Noemie, Bagshaw). Georgia and Michigan have done well in Ontario. Because of the language barrier, Quebec is somewhat of a wild card.
    Last edited by BearDevil; 12-19-2016 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedbear View Post
    https://swimswam.com/2016-swammy-awa...er-year-15-16/

    Go Eva! This is a great list of future superstars.
    Oh definitely! Eva Merrell (winner), Zoe Bartel (hon. mention), Lucie Nordmann / Erica Sullivan / Grace Ariola (comments) are some of the high profile names to keep an eye on in this recruiting class!

    Not to get too far ahead of ourselves lol, from the above article then there's Alex Walsh / Isabel Ivey (runners-up), Regan Smith (comments) to look forward to in the classes of 2019-2020. All these "big name" prospects have already been discussed at some length over on the 2017 recruits thread: http://bearinsider.com/forums/showth...-Class-of-2017

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    A 2018 international whose name hasn't yet come up in the discussion (primarily cos I hadn't previously realised that she may be considering studying & swimming collegiately in the States) is Swedish Olympian Sophie Hansson (#16 in the class according to CollegeSwimming), whose 100m Breast PB in long course = 1:07.59 from 2016 Euros, which optimistically converts to a 59.09 in SCY using SwimSwam's "Swim Time Calculator", just 0.05 sec off the 2017 NCAA "A" cut standard...

    Going the SCM-to-SCY conversion route yields even more promising results...for example, a 1:05.26 in the 100m Breast, done @ 2016 Swedish Short Course Nationals last month, that would roughly correspond to a 58.79 in yards, i.e. inside A finals scoring range!


    Seeing her sister Louise's extremely swift acclimatisation to the little pool down @ 'SC this semester whilst busting out some top-flight swims in mid-season, there's every reason to hope that Sophie has comparable potential to adjust quickly and do just as well in the NCAA.

    By the same token, I'd urge a bit of caution with regards to getting our hopes too high here, since the likely path for the younger Hansson could well be to the Trojanettes (sister on team, Salo's reputation & record of recruiting/developing breaststrokers, nice pool & SoCal weather which may appeal to someone from the colder Nordic clime)


    Sophie & Louise Hansson @ Rio

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    Meeting the Swimmers

    I wanted to try something a little different on this recruiting thread by posting videos of swimmers that we are/or might be interested in for the next recruiting cycle. We often talk about the right Cal fit for the program, but what does that really mean. Only Teri knows for sure, but I would hope that some of the qualities are integrity, charisma, humility, and tenacity, along with being a great team mate. With that being said, it is often easier to get a feeling about a swimmer through video interviews, instead of just crunching numbers about different swimmers. Yes, we want fast swimmers, but we also want swimmers who are going to be great representatives of our university.

    Let's start with the Big Two!

    Eva Merrell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7EpgUjY_Eg

    Taylor Ruck
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCPsln5PZc4

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    Meeting the Swimmers

    Do we dare dream of a lock down breast stroker?

    Zoe Bartel
    http://www.coloradoan.com/videos/spo...6/28/86495378/

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    Meeting the Swimmers

    Outside of Eva Merrell, my favorite in state recruit is Amalie Fackenthal. She is a 50/100 Free specialist, with a good 100 Fly time also. This is her interview from Olympic Trials.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRVSRkUC4YI&t=1s

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedbear View Post
    Meeting the Swimmers

    I wanted to try something a little different on this recruiting thread by posting videos of swimmers that we are/or might be interested in for the next recruiting cycle. We often talk about the right Cal fit for the program, but what does that really mean. Only Teri knows for sure, but I would hope that some of the qualities are integrity, charisma, humility, and tenacity, along with being a great team mate. With that being said, it is often easier to get a feeling about a swimmer through video interviews, instead of just crunching numbers about different swimmers. Yes, we want fast swimmers, but we also want swimmers who are going to be great representatives of our university.
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    In that vein, may I present a couple of recently filmed videos featuring local recruit Halladay Kinsey, which hits a lot of the right buttons for me with regards to a number of the non-swimming areas that tedbear had referred to above:

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    Plus this presentation from Rio Americano HS: Halladay Kinsey talks about how society treats fatherless daughters

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    Now Halladay as an IMer/breast/200 flyer may not be quite as high profile on the national level as some of the other top swim prospects in the class, and I actually have as yet to make up my mind on my own recruiting wish-list ... but I'm already liking what I saw/felt on a gut & emotional level from just the 2 above videos.

    As BearDevil had already mentioned, Ms. Kinsey hails from the same swim club (DART) as current Chenoa & Matt Whittle, as well as sprint stud Amelie Fackenthal in the freshie class of 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
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    In that vein, may I present a couple of recently filmed videos featuring local recruit Halladay Kinsey, which hits a lot of the right buttons for me with regards to a number of the non-swimming areas that tedbear had referred to above:

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    Plus this presentation from Rio Americano HS: Halladay Kinsey talks about how society treats fatherless daughters

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    Now Halladay as an IMer/breast/200 flyer may not be quite as high profile on the national level as some of the other top swim prospects in the class, and I actually have as yet to make up my mind on my own recruiting wish-list ... but I'm already liking what I saw/felt on a gut & emotional level from just the 2 above videos.

    As BearDevil had already mentioned, Ms. Kinsey hails from the same swim club (DART) as current Chenoa & Matt Whittle, as well as sprint stud Amelie Fackenthal in the freshie class of 2018.
    Good stuff UAC! Berkeley material all the way!!! Go Halladay!

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    2017 Arena Pro Swim Series – Austin


    Look forward to seeing how some of these 2018 (and beyond) recruits fare in long course metres this weekend in the midst of their heavy winter training phase, starting this evening.

    Some of the prospects competing here include: Eva Merrell, Taylor Ruck, Mary-Sophie Harvey, Lucie Nordmann, Morgan Tankersley, Allie Raab, Madison Homovich, Alex & Gretchen Walsh.

    Penny Oleksiak's on the psych sheet, but won't be competing:

    CANADA’S PENNY OLEKSIAK SCRATCHES OUT OF ARENA PRO SWIM – AUSTIN



    Racing on the men's side: alums Prenot/Pebs/Bagshaw. Plus 2017 commits Sean Grieshop, James Daugherty, Trenton Julian, Jarod Hatch.

    Links to the live stream, results & recaps in the 2 write-ups below.


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    2017 Arena Pro Swim Series – Austin: Day 1 Finals Live Recap

    https://swimswam.com/2017-pro-swim-s...ls-live-recap/


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    2017 Arena Pro Series Austin: Day One Finals Live Recap

    http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com...ls-live-recap/


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    Meanwhile, at a lower profile club invite, #1 ranked 2020 recruit Regan Smith, apparently not content with being labelled as just a back/fly phenom, gave notice that she has considerable middle distance freestyle chops up her sleeve as well...hey, Katie Ledecky has better watch out down the road... (not really lol, but you get my drift... )


    UN-RESTED, REGAN SMITH DROPS 4:41 500 FREE AT CLUB MEET



    https://swimswam.com/un-rested-broke...ree-club-meet/


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    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    Have a feeling that #10 Allie Raab may be destined for the Farm or the Dawgs (legacy reasons), and wouldn't come as a complete surprise to me if #6 Cassidy Bayer or even #7 Zoe Bartel sign on to bat for the Dark Side, though hope I'm completely off here
    Back to the frosh class of 2018, I'd def be more than kosher w/Cassidy Bayer donning the blue & gold colours, though there may be some indications that she's more of a furdette lean. Here's what Cassidy had to say about the recruiting process recently:


    20 QUESTION TUESDAY: CASSIDY BAYER



    9. How is the recruiting process going as you hit the midway point of your junior year?

    Cassidy: At first when it all started, that first day -- Sept. 1, when you can start talking to them, that was a little overwhelming. Coach Bruce Gemmell and Jon Urbanchek were a tremendous amount of help, which is awesome, and I also have to thank my coach Jeff King who has been awesome. They helped guide me in the direction I wanted to go in starting to make sense of this and figure some things out. I wasn’t into it at first with the fast start, but as I learned more and made sense of it, I found a couple of schools I want to visit -- I had planned to do a couple of those before I was injured. So I’ll hold off on that and take it a bit slower for now and keep learning about all the great options.


    http://www.usaswimming.org/ViewNewsA...6222&mid=14491


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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 01-14-2017 at 08:04 AM. Reason: Cassidy Bayer



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