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  1. #151
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    Good stuff there and lots of information to gloss over. Thanks to you and everyone for all of your updates and comments!

  2. #152

    PBs v. 2017 NCAA scoring potential - Day 2

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    Well as promised, here's a rough list of Personal Bests done by our women that had achieved (or got fairly close to) a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut, measured against hypothetical qualification & scoring potential at this year's very fast edition of the NCAA Div I Championships if these lifetime bests had actually been swum in last week's finals. Excluded our seniors (Farida, KV, Marina, Celina) as we are looking ahead to next year with this list.

    Putting this together was a bit of a headache as it involved manually looking up times for each entry, hence I didn't research every single swim & event for each of our Golden Bears, i.e. this is an incomplete data set at best!

    Did relax the 'B' cut inclusion criteria considerably for the incoming frosh class... Note that several of these Baby Bears have yet to participate in their rested SCY meet for this season (in particular the in-state recruits since the CA sectionals & State Champs equiv. aren't typically scheduled until May), so may improve their times further once these championship meets have taken place. Also seem to recall that Dannie didn't race her HS states this year, not certain if it was an injury-related issue or something else...

    UPDATE: Threw in the furdette juggernaut's #1 ranked 2017 recruiting class, so that we can better assess the events & areas where they could widen the gap on us, or conversely lose a bit of ground, @ 2018 NCAAs...


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    *** = PB achieved @ 2017 NCAAs

    ** = PB achieved @ 2017 Pac-12s

    * = PB achieved this season (UGA Invite, or any duals & meets during the 2016-2017 season)


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    �� Name = 2017 Baby Bear

    �� Name = 2017 Sapling


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    ===== DAY 2 =====



    500y Free (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 4:36.30)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 4:38.09 ~
    Katie McLaughlin ..... 4:36.04...... 2017 Pac-12s**


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 4:39.97 ~
    �� Brooke Forde ...... 4:39.87...... 2017 Feb*


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 4:41.84 ~
    Chenoa Devine ........ 4:41.19...... 2017 Pac-12s**



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 4:47.79 ~
    �� Lauren Pitzer ....... 4:42.80...... 2014 Dec
    Kathleen Baker ........ 4:45.49...... 2016 Jan (Dual @ USC)
    Jenna Campbell ....... 4:45.83...... 2015 May
    �� Robin Neumann ... 4:46.37...... 2017 Apr (converted from 400m Free LCM time of 4:15.59)


    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    Anina Lund .............. 4:48.66...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Courtney Mykkanen .. 4:49.37...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    �� Natalie Tuck ......... 4:56.75...... 2016 May
    �� Dannie Dilsaver .... 4:57.22...... 2016 Oct*




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    200y IM (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 1:55.35)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 1:55.59 ~
    Kathleen Baker ........ 1:51.69...... 2017 NCAAs***
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 1:55.55...... 2016 Dec*


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 1:56.34 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 1:57.66 ~
    �� Sarah Darcel ....... 1:56.49...... 2017 Canadian Trials* (converted from 200m IM LCM time of 2:12.51)
    Keaton Blovad ......... 1:57.21...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 2:01.59 ~
    �� Hannah Kukurugya 1:57.99...... 2017 Feb*
    Abbey Weitzeil ......... 1:58.13...... 2014 Dec
    �� Grace Zhao .......... 1:59.31...... 2017 Feb*
    Maija Roses ............. 1:59.71...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ..... 1:59.85...... 2014 May
    �� Dannie Dilsaver .... 2:00.37...... 2015 Dec
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely .. 2:00.38...... 2016 May
    �� Lauren Green ....... 2:00.66...... 2015 Dec
    �� Katie Glavinovich .. 2:00.66...... 2015 Mar
    Courtney Mykkanen .. 2:00.70...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    Chenoa Devine ......... 2:00.93...... 2016 Feb



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Ali Harrison ........... 2:01.67...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Elizabeth Bailey ..... 2:02.36...... 2016 Feb
    �� Natalie Tuck .......... 2:02.93...... 2016 May




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    50y Free (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 21.80)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 21.84 ~
    Abbey Weitzeil ....... 21.12...... 2016 Mar (American Record)
    Maddie Murphy ...... 21.76...... 2017 NCAAs***


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 22.00 ~
    Amy Bilquist .......... 21.94...... 2017 NCAAs*** (Prelims Swim-off)


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 22.23 ~
    Valerie Hull .............. 22.17...... 2017 NCAAs***



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 22.99 ~
    �� Ashley Volpenhein . 22.35...... 2015 Feb
    Noemie Thomas ....... 22.42...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Lauren Pitzer ....... 22.60...... 2015 Dec
    �� Lauren Green ....... 22.61...... 2016 Dec*
    Katie McLaughlin ...... 22.62...... 2014 Dec
    Kathleen Baker ........ 22.63...... 2014 Mar
    �� Grace Zhao .......... 22.70...... 2014 Dec
    Jasmine Mau ............ 22.70...... 2013 Mar
    Keaton Blovad .......... 22.75...... 2012 Dec
    �� Robin Neumann ..... 22.75...... 2016 Apr (converted from 50m Free LCM time of 26.06)



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ...... 23.25...... 2015 Dec
    �� Brooke Forde ........ 23.52...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Ali Harrison ........... 23.73...... 2016 Nov*
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely ... 23.97...... 2016 May
    �� Elizabeth Bailey ..... 24.33...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Dannie Dilsaver ..... 24.50...... 2016 Mar
    �� Natalie Tuck .......... 24.77...... 2016 Nov*



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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 04-18-2017 at 01:03 PM. Reason: Added Sarah's converted time from 2017 Canadian Trials

  3. #153

    PBs v. 2017 NCAA scoring potential - Day 3

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    ===== DAY 3 =====



    400y IM (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 4:05.36)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 4:06.00 ~
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 4:02.51...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Sarah Darcel ....... 4:05.84...... 2017 Canadian Trials* (converted from 400m IM LCM time of 4:39.29)


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 4:07.88 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 4:10.86 ~
    - N/A -



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 4:19.39 ~
    Kathleen Baker .......... 4:11.38...... 2013 Mar
    �� Hannah Kukurugya . 4:12.34...... 2017 Mar*
    Chenoa Devine .......... 4:13.51...... 2017 NCAAs***
    �� Katie Glavinovich .... 4:13.89...... 2016 Mar
    Courtney Mykkanen .... 4:14.22...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Dannie Dilsaver ...... 4:14.28...... 2016 Nov*
    �� Lauren Pitzer ......... 4:16.77...... 2014 Dec
    Maija Roses ............... 4:18.52...... 2016 Pac-12s



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Elizabeth Bailey ..... 4:21.54...... 2014 Dec
    �� Natalie Tuck ......... 4:23.47...... 2017 Jan*




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    100y Fly (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 51.49)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 51.45 ~
    Noemie Thomas ....... 50.44...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    Maddie Murphy ........ 51.15...... 2017 NCAAs***


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 52.12 ~
    Katie McLaughlin ...... 51.53...... 2015 May
    Kathleen Baker ........ 51.85...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Jasmine Mau ........... 52.03...... 2015 NCAAs


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (39th) = 52.52 ~
    - N/A -



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 54.49 ~
    Abbey Weitzeil ......... 52.71...... 2015 Dec
    �� Lauren Green ....... 52.71...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Hannah Kukurugya 53.06...... 2017 Feb*
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 53.41...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ..... 53.67...... 2015 May
    Amy Bilquist ............ 54.31...... 2015 Feb
    �� Elizabeth Bailey .... 54.43...... 2016 Feb



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Ashley Volpenhein . 54.73...... 2015 Dec
    �� Ali Harrison .......... 54.94...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Grace Zhao .......... 55.87...... 2015 Apr
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely .. 55.90...... 2016 Dec*




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    200y Free (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 1:43.63)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 1:43.73 ~
    Kathleen Baker ....... 1:42.66...... 2017 NCAAs***
    Katie McLaughlin ..... 1:43.01...... 2015 May
    Abbey Weitzeil ........ 1:43.25...... 2016 Mar
    �� Robin Neumann ... 1:43.28...... 2016 Apr (converted from 200m Free LCM time of 1:57.85)


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 1:44.96 ~
    �� Brooke Forde ...... 1:44.68...... 2017 Feb*


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (39th) = 1:45.44 ~
    Amy Bilquist ............ 1:45.03...... 2015 Mar (busted out 1:42.08 @ 2017 NCAAs w/flying start - 800 free relay)



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 1:47.99 ~
    �� Lauren Pitzer ....... 1:45.68...... 2014 Dec
    Keaton Blovad ......... 1:46.05...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Jenna Campbell ....... 1:46.35...... 2013 May
    Jasmine Mau ........... 1:47.09...... 2014 Mar
    �� Hannah Kukurugya 1:47.10...... 2015 Dec
    �� Lauren Green ....... 1:47.12...... 2016 May
    Valerie Hull ............. 1:47.33...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Anina Lund ............. 1:47.36...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Chenoa Devine .........1:47.78...... 2016 Feb
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ..... 1:47.90...... 2016 Mar
    �� Dannie Dilsaver .... 1:47.91...... 2016 Nov*



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    Maddie Murphy ......... 1:48.84...... 2015 May
    �� Ashley Volpenhein . 1:49.39...... 2015 Dec
    �� Natalie Tuck ......... 1:51.42...... 2016 Dec*




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    100y Breast (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 59.04)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 59.06 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 59.81 ~
    Kathleen Baker ....... 59.37...... 2014 Mar


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (38th) = 1:00.34 ~
    - N/A -



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 1:02.49 ~
    �� Grace Zhao ...... 1:00.54...... 2016 Dec*
    Maija Roses ......... 1:00.78...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    Abbey Weitzeil ..... 1:00.86...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Keaton Blovad ...... 1:01.02...... 2015 Mar
    �� Ali Harrison ...... 1:01.22...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Brooke Forde .... 1:01.61...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Dannie Dilsaver . 1:02.03...... 2016 Nov*



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    Alexa Buckley ........ 1:02.51...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely 1:02.81...... 2016 May
    �� Natalie Tuck ...... 1:04.02...... 2017 Feb*




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    100y Back (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 51.45)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 51.10 ~
    Kathleen Baker ...... 49.80...... 2017 NCAAs***
    Amy Bilquist .......... 50.50...... 2016 Pac-12s


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 51.73 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (41st) = 52.65 ~
    Keaton Blovad ....... 52.41...... 2017 Pac-12s**



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 55.09 ~
    Jasmine Mau ......... 52.96...... 2015 Feb
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ... 53.50...... 2016 May
    Abbey Weitzeil ....... 53.80...... 2015 Mar
    Courtney Mykkanen 53.90...... 2015 Feb
    Aislinn Light ........... 54.31...... 2016 May



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 55.53...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Katie Glavinovich . 56.08...... 2015 Mar
    �� Dannie Dilsaver ... 57.76...... 2014 Mar
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely 58.33...... 2016 Feb
    �� Natalie Tuck ....... 58.71...... 2017 Jan*




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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 04-18-2017 at 01:13 PM. Reason: Added Sarah's converted time from 2017 Canadian Trials

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    PBs v. 2017 NCAA scoring potential - Day 4

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    ===== DAY 4 =====



    1650y Free (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 15:53.50)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Scoring Time (8th) = 15:54.88 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Scoring Time (16th) = 16:02.52 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 16:16.41 ~
    Chenoa Devine ....... 16:04.34...... 2017 NCAAs***



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 16:30.59 ~
    �� Lauren Pitzer ...... 16:23.99...... 2014 Dec
    Anina Lund ............. 16:27.90...... 2013 Dec



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    ?




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    200y Back (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 1:51.95)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 1:50.86 ~
    Kathleen Baker ......... 1:48.33...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    Amy Bilquist ............. 1:49.90...... 2016 Pac-12s


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 1:52.52 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 1:54.00 ~
    Keaton Blovad ............ 1:54.00...... 2017 Pac-12s**



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 1:59.19 ~
    Courtney Mykkanen .... 1:55.09...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ....... 1:56.79...... 2016 May
    �� Brooke Forde ......... 1:57.13...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Katie Glavinovich .... 1:57.82...... 2014 Feb
    Aislinn Light ............... 1:58.55...... 2017 Pac-12s**



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Elizabeth Bailey ...... 2:02.32...... 2015 Dec




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    100y Free (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 47.69)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 47.37 ~
    Abbey Weitzeil ....... 46.29...... 2014 Dec


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 48.10 ~
    Amy Bilquist .......... 47.55...... 2017 NCAAs***


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 48.62 ~
    �� Robin Neumann ... 48.12...... 2016 Apr (converted from 100m Free LCM time of 55.02)
    Kathleen Baker ....... 48.20...... 2014 Mar
    Maddie Murphy ....... 48.22...... 2017 NCAAs***
    Katie McLaughlin ..... 48.32...... 2014 Nov



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 49.99 ~
    Valerie Hull ............. 48.66...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*
    Jasmine Mau ........... 48.67...... 2014 Feb
    �� Lauren Pitzer ....... 48.72...... 2015 Dec
    �� Ashley Volpenhein .48.96...... 2016 Feb
    Keaton Blovad ......... 49.01...... 2015 Mar
    �� Lauren Green ....... 49.67...... 2017 Mar*
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 49.74...... 2016 Mar



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Sophie K-Zhou ...... 50.01...... 2016 May
    Jenna Campbell ........ 50.35...... 2015 May
    �� Ali Harrison .......... 50.54...... 2016 May
    Aislinn Light ............. 50.66...... 2015 May
    �� Dannie Dilsaver .... 51.13...... 2016 Nov*
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely .. 51.19...... 2014 Dec




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    200y Breast (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 2:07.33)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 2:07.45 ~
    - N/A -


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 2:09.79 ~
    �� Brooke Forde ...... 2:09.12...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Grace Zhao ........ 2:09.21...... 2016 Dec*
    �� Sarah Darcel ....... 2:09.49...... 2017 Canadian Trials* (converted from 200m Breast LCM time of 2:27.74)


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 2:10.55 ~
    - N/A -



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 2:15.99 ~
    Kathleen Baker ....... 2:11.17...... 2013 Mar
    Maija Roses ............ 2:11.75...... 2017 Pac-12s**
    �� Ali Harrison ......... 2:13.53...... 2016 Dec*



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    �� Dannie Dilsaver .... 2:16.01...... 2016 Oct*
    �� Natalie Tuck ........ 2:16.28...... 2016 Dec*
    Alexa Buckley .......... 2:16.58...... 2014 Dec
    �� Lex Skorus-Neely . 2:17.78...... 2014 Jan




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    200y Fly (2017 NCAA ‘A’ Cut: 1:54.01)


    ~ 2017 NCAA A Final Qualifying Time (8th) = 1:54.41 ~
    Katie McLaughlin ...... 1:52.37...... 2017 NCAAs***
    Noemie Thomas ....... 1:53.77...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*


    ~ 2017 NCAA B Final Qualifying Time (16th) = 1:55.52 ~
    Jasmine Mau ........... 1:54.85...... 2015 NCAAs


    ~ 2017 NCAA Slowest Invited Time (40th) = 1:56.60 ~
    �� Hannah Kukurugya 1:55.64...... 2015 Dec
    �� Brooke Forde ....... 1:56.30...... 2017 Mar*



    ~ 2017 NCAA 'B' Cut: 1:59.59 ~
    Kathleen Baker ........ 1:58.08...... 2014 Mar
    Jenna Campbell ....... 1:59.02...... 2013 Apr
    �� Elizabeth Bailey ... 1:59.31...... 2015 Dec
    �� Lauren Green ...... 1:59.51...... 2016 Apr



    ~ Outside of a 2017 NCAA 'B' cut ~
    Maddie Murphy ........ 2:00.66...... 2016 Georgia Fall Invite*




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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 04-18-2017 at 01:17 PM. Reason: Added Sarah's converted time from 2017 Canadian Trials

  5. #155
    UAC: Thanks for all your hard work. I don't mean to be unappreciative of our new bears; but, the data doesn't look especially promising. . . or do you see it differently?

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Microbear85 View Post
    UAC: Thanks for all your hard work. I don't mean to be unappreciative of our new bears; but, the data doesn't look especially promising. . . or do you see it differently?
    That is a lot of work! Thanks UAC!

    Yup Microbear85, you are correct. And that is why 2018 recruiting is so crucial. Our next big window to win a Natty is when Dream Team are seniors and the future Class of 2018 are frosh.

  7. #157
    Good stuff, UAC-thanks!

    Only quibble I have is 2018 relays. With the Dream Team, Noemie, Maddie, and Robin, Teri still will have more than enough depth to be top three in all five relays with legs to spare.

    Only questions are breast legs on the medleys. Choose from Abbey, KB, Maija, Keaton, or Ali. Latter three have work to do, but ideally one of them would emerge. Abbey and KB are more devastating on other medley legs.

    Assuming reasonable adjustment to SCYs, Robin can contribute on the 800 and 400 Free relays as a froskie. 200 Free Relay is not out of the question, but more than a little depth there.

    Chenoa's already ahead of schedule as an NCAA qualifier, but fully expect her to score individually and potentially swim an 800 leg sooner rather than later.

  8. #158

    2017 recruits - Baby Bears v. Saplings

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    Went ahead and added some PBs for the 2017 furdette recruits to the list in the preceding posts. As a (painful ) reminder, this was the 2nd #1 class in a row for our arch-rivals down on the Farm, boasting four of SwimSwam's Top 10 + one in their Top 20 ranking. Meehan had also poached Grace, Ashley & Katie G (the trio had made official trips to Cal prior to committing to LSJU ).

    At any rate, the inclusion of these incoming �� in the "best times" lists above should help make it easier to compare their in-the-pool strengths & weaknesses relative to our incoming baby s and get a firmer handle on what to expect for the 2017-2018 swimming season.


    Natalie Tuck, Sophie Krivokapic-Zhou, Ali Harrison

    At a quick glance, a number of the 2017 saplings thankfully haven't managed to hit any new Personal Best times this season as yet (Ashley Volpenhein, Lauren Pitzer, Katie Glavinovich who is now rated @ #96 compared to her prev #64 spot).

    However, Grace Zhao & Lauren Green have made steady improvements... Indeed, Zhao's 2:09.21 from Dec would have scored in the 200 Breast B final @ 2017 NCAAs!

    Hannah Kukurugya with some nice drops in several of her events (100 Fly, 200 & 400 IM) hence her collegeswimming ranking having shot up from last year's #21 to its current #12 slot.


    Hannah Kukurugya, Brooke Forde, Ashley Volpenhein

    Most impressive (alarming for us lol) is Brooke Forde busting out PBs left & right in almost every one of her events as of late (and Yahoo Pat's daughter can swim fast in a whole bunch of events to boot!). At the present count, her lifetime best times would have scored in the A final of this year's NCAAs (200 IM, 400 IM), B final (500 Free, 200 Free, 200 Breast), not to mention also earning an invite in the 200 Fly! Brooke is now ranked the #1 recruit of her class by collegeswimming.

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    https://www.collegeswimming.com/recr...nkings/2017/F/


    Rank | Name | Commitment | Hometown | Power Index
    032 | Robin Neumann | Cal | NED | 3.24
    049 | Sophie Krivokapic-Zhou | Cal | Santa Clara, CA | 4.39
    072 | Alicia Harrison | Cal | Ventura, CA | 5.67
    090 | Dannie Dilsaver | Cal | Lincoln, NE | 6.56
    134 | Elizabeth Bailey | Cal | Atlanta, GA | 9.21
    153 | Alexa Skorus-Neely | Cal | Canyon Country, CA | 10.14
    274 | Natalie Tuck | Cal | Menlo Park, CA | 14.29



    Rank | Name | Commitment | Hometown | Power Index
    001 | Brooke Forde | Stanford | Louisville, KY | 1.08
    008 | Lauren Pitzer | Stanford | Haltom City, TX | 1.66
    012 | Hannah Kukurugya | Stanford | Highland, IN | 1.71
    013 | Grace Zhao | Stanford | Palo Alto, CA | 1.76
    019 | Ashley Volpenhein | Stanford | Mason, OH | 2.09
    033 | Lauren Green | Stanford | San Jose, CA | 3.25
    096 | Katie Glavinovich | Stanford | Laguna beach, CA | 6.80



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    MISSOURI TIGER WOMEN BIGGEST NCAA RISERS FROM SWIMSWAM PREDICTIONS


    NAILED IT

    • #1: Stanford Cardinal
    • #2: California Golden Bears

    We’re not exactly breaking our arms patting ourselves on the back over these. Statistical analysis showed an almost 100% chance of a Stanford win and an almost 100% chance of a Cal 2nd-place finish. But we’ll take our wins where we can get them!


    https://swimswam.com/missouri-tiger-...m-predictions/


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  10. #160

    2017 recruits & next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Schroeder71 View Post
    It appears to me that the men's team with the 8 new recruits will have less weaknesses and more depth heading into next season than the women's team. After the departure of Ryan Murphy, the men would seem to have less stars than the women's team, too. The women's team appears to have had two subpar recruit classes back-to-back (7 new swimmers enter in the fall) and must rely for most of their points from their fab four (Kathleen Baker, Abbey Weitzeil, Amy Bilquist & Katie McLaughlin)...Both Cal teams finished second in NCAAs so it will interesting to see if they can sustain their high levels of respective performance going forward... Did anyone provide an evaluation of the women's incoming recruit class like that provided for the men's new class? GO BEARS!
    Well, we'll have to wait until late June or thereabouts for SwimSwam's comprehensive "2017 Women’s NCAA Recruiting Classes" rankings.





    The following is just my quick take based on the "NCAA scoring potential according to PBs" charts several posts back on this thread. Hopefully the experts here will chime in with their expert observations & analyses for a better in-depth evaluation...

    To put it bluntly without any sugar-coating, it would appear that our incoming domestic baby s won't likely emerge as NCAA scorers in their freshie year (would be very happy to be proven wrong in this regard tho!)

    Now Robin does represent our best scoring chance out of all the frosh, albeit we should be cognisant that our international may be a bit of a wild card when it comes to SCY (with Marina's & Yvette's collegiate careers in mind!).

    Mainly in the 200 Free, and possibly the 100 Free - * if * our Dutch Olympian is able to make the transition quickly to the little pool plus to a new training environment & coaches/teammates, and at the same time to adjust smoothly to the challenges of the classroom @ Cal and to living in the US in general. Neumann should also provide Teri & Ian with more options in the free relays.

    IMO Sophie may at least get a chance to qualify for NCs in the 100 Back if she ends up developing ahead of schedule, maybe additionally in the 100 Fly after working with the likes of Noemie, Maddie & Katie... But Krivokapic-Zhou isn't realistically projected as a scorer in her debut season.

    Our glaring holes in distance (Chenoa will remain as Bears' only serious candidate), longer IM (zero NCAA qualifiers) and both breast events at the championship level won't apparently be mitigated by the incoming class...

    OTOH, baby furdettes are anticpated to secure NCAA scoring positions in their freshman year in multiple events:
    200 IM (Forde)
    400 IM (Forde)
    200 Breast (Forde & Zhao).

    Also in the 500 Free & 200 Free if their #1 recruit takes on these events instead of her expected races.

    Not to mention a possibility of earning NCAA invites in these:
    500 Free (Pitzer)
    200 IM (Kuks, maybe Zhao)
    50 Free (Volpenhein, Pitzer, Green, perhaps even Zhao)
    400 IM (Kuks potentially)
    100 Fly (Green, Kuks, Forde)
    200 Free (Pitzer)
    100 Breast (Zhao)
    100 Free (Pitzer, Volpenhein)
    200 Fly (Kuks, Forde)

    These 2017 saplings will also deliver some depth to their 50 & 100 Free sprints at the conference & dual level, which will be helpful to Meehan & Tracy with Lia Neal's departure and with Hu & Howe typically better utilised in the Back & Fly individuals. LSJU's 100 fly, breasts, 200 free will also be bolstered in terms of mid-level depth.

    The 100 & 200 backstroke is one area where our latest bear cub commits should reign over the mini ��s, since Sophie > Glavinovich according to current stats. Looking like no sprint breast upgrades down on the Farm either, so Bears will have a chance against the furdette juggernaut next year in the medley relays, assuming the void left by Farida's graduation will be filled by somebody.

    At any rate, this thread may serve as a (painful for some ) reminder of our (somewhat tumultuous lol) rollercoaster ride for the 2017 recruiting year:

    Oh, not to forget the 2016 recruiting year...groan (which actually turned out much stronger than originally rated for our s, showcased by Madds' studly ascendency, nicely backed by Chenoa's encouraging development and Keaton's solid contributions)
    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 03-29-2017 at 05:21 PM. Reason: link to Class of 2016 recruits

  11. #161
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    2017 W. NCAA ANALYSIS: STANFORD RETURNING 308 INDIVIDUAL NCAA POINTS



    Although an exciting women’s NCAA championship just wrapped up a few weeks ago, it’s never too early to start looking at next year and how the teams will stack up against each other. It’s no surprise that every year teams have to say goodbye to their seniors, but the real question is how will losing these experienced swimmers effect next year?

    For teams like Michigan and Southern California, it only means they’ll come back with an older, more experienced team since the Wolverines did not have any senior swimmers compete at NCAA’s and USC will only lose 6 points scored by Kierra Smith.

    Minnesota will take the biggest hit as they lose 87 points from their seniors, but the majority of those points came from their two senior divers.

    Georgia and Virginia will take a hit as they both lose 83 points. ... The sprint program for the Bulldogs will have to find more depth as they lose two top 8 50 freestylers with Smoliga (who finished second) and Van Landeghem (who finished eighth). Georgia will still return 169 points with strong sophomore and junior classes. Virginia takes an even bigger hit as they are only returning 66 points of their 149 total points.

    California looks to come back with yet another strong showing returning 310 points and losing 56 senior points between Farida Osman (who won the 100 butterfly), Marina Garcia Urzainqui and Kristen Vredeveld.

    As for the defending champions – there’s something to be said for the depth that head coach Greg Meehan has built for Stanford. While it will be hard to lose Lia Neal as someone that the team could consistently rely on, Stanford will still return nearly 200 points more than any other school. They put on a dominant performance finishing the meet with 526.50 points and will be returning 494.50 of those points. ... The Cardinal will return 308.5 individual points next season. That’s almost twice as many returning points as anybody else in the country will get back. It’s also 100 points more than any team scored individually, including seniors, at NCAAs last season.


    TEAM | SENIOR POINTS | NON-SENIOR INDIVIDUAL POINTS | RETURNING POINTS (INCLUDING RELAYS) | SENIOR RELAY SWIMS
    Stanford | 32 | 308.5 | 494.5 | 4
    California | 56 | 164 | 310 | 4
    Texas A&M | 39 | 127.5 | 253.5 | 5
    Georgia | 83.5 | 35 | 169 | 11
    Texas | 67 | 83 | 185 | 9
    Louisville | 25 | 51.5 | 169.5 | 4
    NC State | 62 | 36 | 132 | 9
    Indiana | 19 | 98 | 166 | 3
    Southern Cal | 6 | 64 | 170 | 5
    Minnesota | 87 | 51 | 81 | 1
    Michigan | 6 | 95 | 153 | 0
    Virginia | 83 | 16 | 66 | 13


    https://swimswam.com/2017-w-ncaa-ana...l-ncaa-points/


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  12. #162
    494 returning points?!? Yikes. That's a slam dunk NCAA title. Furdettes need to replace Neal on relays (Pitzer or Drabot) and Forde will score, so Teri needs to keep her powder dry and hold scholly $s for the 2018 class since 200 point scorers don't exist.

    Tread water in second and hope Manuel graduates on time and leaves with Hu and Howe. That would give the Bears a title shot in 2019 with the right recruiting class. Favorites if Ledecky bailed too.

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