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    Jorge-Pasternack incident video

    Someone posted it on CGB:


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    It's not clear to me exactly what is occurring. He could be just geekily reacting in surprise. The dorky look on his face is classic, though.

    It was also reported that players heard him (or read his lips) dropping the f-bomb? Was that after Jorge approached him?

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    According to friends at the game, he kicked him (it was clear from the Bench angle) and said "F**K YOU" to Jorge.

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    At first I thought Jorge fell onto Pasternak, but after watching a bunch of times it seems like Jorge falls into an empty seat.

    What's clear is that Pasternak is to Jorge's left (since he's falling backwards; toward the right side of the screen from the camera's vantage point) as he starts to fall. So if he fell on anyone it wasn't Pasternak. As Jorge lands Pasternak appears to kick at him with the heel of his left foot while he pulls his arm clear. Maybe he had is arm draped over the backrest of the chair Jorge fell into since it was probably empty? Not clear if the kick connected, but if it did I can see why Jorge reacted.

    IMHO it's pretty bush league to kick at a guy while he's falling no matter what, but particularly so if he's not only not falling onto you but into an empty chair to boot.

    Is there any video of what lead up to the double foul?

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    Jorge All the Way

    If there were no video or eye witnesses to support Jorge, I would still be in his corner in an instance like this.

    He does not go looking for fights. But if someone wrongs him, he will not turn the other cheek.

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    I think it's reflexive movement on the part of Joe P., then the Braunesque cringe, and then a heat of the moment F-him as he is walking away. It's not a big deal to me at this point. And he's Roxy Bernstein's bro-in-law and Roxy was claiming on Twitter that Joe would never kick anyone intentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian The Cal Bear View Post
    According to friends at the game, he kicked him (it was clear from the Bench angle) and said "F**K YOU" to Jorge.
    This pretty much describes what I witnessed from where I was sitting. I can't speak for what was said to Jorge though.

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    Asst. Coach Joe P. was acting with the full force and authority conferred on him by noted Latino civil rights activist Gov. Jan Brewer.

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    Look at the video again



    I draw your attention to Jorge's shorts--look at how they get stretched--with Pasternack's shoe inside! Pasternack then kicks to try to free his shoe from Jorge's shorts!

    How did Pasternack's shoe end up in Jorge's shorts in the first place?
    Last edited by calumnus; 02-03-2012 at 09:13 PM.

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    my take

    He's now claiming that he reacted to Jorge's fall by extending his foot and that this is all a big misunderstanding. A bunch of BULL. Even before the incident he'd caught my attention on the bench because he was screaming and cursing. Pretty obvious that he was ready to explode. And if in fact he reacted to the fall by extended his foot - he should've immediately apologized. You know, you bump someone and you turn around and say "excuse me" or "sorry about that" however, his reaction was caught on camera and he said "f-him" speaking of Jorge. I can't believe he was on our staff. What kind of a coach kicks a student athlete during a ball game? Answer: a coward and a piece of garbage that should be fired. Shame on him. If he was on our staff and kicked a kid from (fill-in the name of ANY University here) I'd want his @ss gone. I can take a loss or a struggling program (well not really but, you know what I mean) but I don't want anyone on our staff who brings shame to our university. This sort of behavior is absolutely unacceptable.

    Some of you may say I'm overreacting, which I understand, but, since we all know that UA wants to sweep this under the mat, shouldn't the NCAA look into this? Regardless of whether someone was harmed, coaches have been fired or had to resign for less serious circumstances? At the minimum he should receive some punishment (suspended for a game or two, forced to resign or fired), what do y'all think?
    Last edited by goldenbear2005; 02-05-2012 at 03:40 PM.

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    Obvious to me. Saw the video clip (=again) in today's game vs. ASU: plain as day. League should sanction Pasternack.


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    Fired? Naw...

    Naw, even a head coach like, say, Woody Hayes, would never get fired for something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenbear2005 View Post
    He's now claiming that he reacted to Jorge's fall by extending his foot and that this is all a big misunderstanding. A bunch of BULL. Even before the incident he'd caught my attention on the bench because he was screaming and cursing. Pretty obvious that he was ready to explode. And if in fact he reacted to the fall by extended his foot - he should've immediately apologized. You know, you bump someone and you turn around and say "excuse me" or "sorry about that" however, his reaction was caught on camera and he said "f-him" speaking of Jorge. I can't believe he was on our staff. What kind of a coach kicks a student athlete during a ball game? Answer: a coward and a piece of garbage that should be fired. Shame on him. If he was on our staff and kicked a kid from (fill-in the name of ANY University here) I'd want his @ss gone. I can take a loss or a struggling program (well not really but, you know what I mean) but I don't want anyone on our staff who brings shame to our university. This sort of behavior is absolutely unacceptable.

    Some of you may say I'm overreacting, which I understand, but, since we all know that UA wants to sweep this under the mat, shouldn't the NCAA look into this? Regardless of whether someone was harmed, coaches have been fired or had to resign for less serious circumstances? At the minimum he should some punishment (suspended for a game or two, forced to resign or fired), what do y'all think?
    Last edited by ddc_Cal; 02-04-2012 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddc_Cal View Post
    Naw, even a head coach like, say, Woody Hayes, would never get fired for something like that.
    Even a HC would never get fired? It is the opposite. The higher up you go, the more your behavior will be excused. Look at Penn State. Guys like Pasternack are expendable, there are 50 guys waiting to take his place on teh Arizona staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoreAmBear View Post
    I think it's rflexive movement on the part of Joe P., then the Braunesque cringe, and then a heat of the moment F-him as he is walking away. It's not a big deal to me at this point. And he's Roxy Bernstein's bro-in-law and Roxy was claiming on Twitter that Joe would never kick anyone intentionally.
    Whole thing could have been avoided by UA not letting coaches wearing dresses sit on the bench.

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    Sorry, I was being sarcastic.

    Woody Hayes got fired for hitting an opposing player after an interception. He hit him with his fist in the shoulder pad. I don't remember for sure, but the player didn't get mad, he was just kind of dumfounded.




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