Cal needs a power player and a wing in the spring in the worst way.
Cal needs a power player and a wing in the spring in the worst way.
Cobbs, Crabbe, Kreklow, Kravish, and Solomon with Wallace and Thurman first guard and big off the bench with at least one other player stepping up is not horrible. If we can get someone who is an upgrade over any of those guys, great, but if we see normal progression we have already seen from these players under Monty I don't think that team does worse than this years team.
Last edited by calumnus; 03-19-2012 at 11:52 PM.
How can this be seen as negative? Rossi either wasn't good enough or healthy enought to play. Now we get a chance to replace him 2 years early. Hopefully Smith, Bak, Behrens, and Murray have "family issues" too.
Crabbe is Cal's best outside threat. He can get hot and put up points in a hurry. The opponents do make him a priority. He needed to play big minutes. That does not mean Monty needed to play him 36 minutes. He could have played the bench (Rossi, Behrens) more.
We all know Crabbe has some limitations and he did wear down, but is a very important piece in what Cal does. Besides Kreklow for next year, Cal is also recruiting Jabari Bird and others that project at Rossi's position. I take this at face value and hope for the best for Alex. Monty and his staff need to get out on the road and find some players.
Also, to say he wasn't healthy or good enough is negative because it seems like you're saying he couldn't get healthy...well at one point Kamp wasn't healthy enough to play and he came back and did a great job for us. Rossi was healthy enough to play in all of 2012.
This post exemplifies what's wrong with the average Cal fan....you're defending a walk on who isn't good...period. Powers is a walk on and not even a good one. The fact that he played any meaningful minutes at all shows the seriousness of our depth issues. I have insights into practice and I can tell you flat out that Rossi is much more athletic than given credit for on this board - I saw, with my own eyes him, in practice have several very impressive dunks in half court sets. I also saw Murray play extremely well in practice for stretches that lasted days, not just minutes. Murray may not have been highly recruited, but he is a great athlete, probably the best on the team (with Solomon in the discussion) and that's the kind of kid we should be developing because at least he has upside...unlike Smith and Bak and yes, even Powers. I'll say this right now, if Powers is playing next year....at all....then we're not going to be good...that's not even debatable in my mind. Rossi on the other hand had tons of offers from high major programs and got hurt...so therefore he's suddenly seen as "not good enough", which is just stupid. Had I no insights into practice at all and just listened to what the announcers said about him on TV during the games he played in and then took what I saw of his jump shot (how quick it is along with how good it looks) I'd have to assume that he has major upside. Good teams have guys like that coming off the bench...not walk ons.
There is an assumption that if Monty doesn't play someone it's because they're not good or in Rossi's case, because he's hurt. Is it at all possible that it's because he's too set in his ways to change and that his stubbornness may have hurt the team a little this year? My thought is along the lines of others on this board....what would it have hurt to play Rossi, Murray and Christian more???......knowing that the end result of playing our starters so much would be that they got tired and less productive I think the risk of those 3 not doing well would have been worth it. Also, to blindly support the coaches views on things means that one must have thought that Smith and Bak were actually doing better than I and most others thought. You don't get it both ways..."in Monty we trust" and "Smith sucked" - he's the one who continued to play Smith despite one horrid performance after another. (as a side note, I think Smith could have been handled differently to avoid him having a complete lack of confidence which in turn led him to play scared and thus poorly).
Also, as another poster mentioned in a different thread, we haven't heard much about Ricky this year in practice and when compared to all the talk about Cobbs doing so well last year it makes one wonder how good he will be. I tend to agree with the thought that Ricky will start next year as I know coach likes him (although coach liked Smith this year too) but I saw Cobbs last year and knew in 2 minutes that he'd start and said as much on hear very early in the season last year. Nobody is saying that about Ricky yet we're willing to pencil him in as a starter as if he's some sort of savior....I just wouldn't get my hopes up that high.
Last edited by DaBears24; 03-20-2012 at 08:17 AM.
Rossi's gone - sad but true. To me this seems like an opportunity to free up another schollie and bring in a post player - which we need more desperately then another wing.
Never know what this could mean to the program in the long-term. I'm looking forward to seeing what Monty has in store for this new opening
Let's look at his evaluation and recruiting record since he's been here at Cal.
He gets fortunate (and some may even say "lucky") with Jorge Gutierrez after Garrett Sim decides to ask out of his LOI. There simply wasn't a ton of evaluation or even recruiting going on here. Most high-major prospects are evaluated and courted for at least a year (and longer for the best prospects), while Jorge's process with Cal was literally like two weeks.
Cal strikes out on most of its top targets and we end up with a class of MSF (good get, Jay John connection from his days in Oregon--as much I bag on John, credit should be given where it's due), Brandon Smith, and Bak. Well MSF is gone, and we are left with a 2012-2013 senior class of Smith, Bak, and Thurman (former walk-on transfer from D-III--Monty's really starting to look like Braun with all these walk-on's; watch Powers get a scholly for next season once we strike out on everyone). Hopefully Smith can recover and be serviceable his SR year. Bak has been Bak and Thurman has been somewhat of a pleasant surprise, but not what you want to depend on as a high-major program with ambition.
This was supposedly the Class that was going to bring Cal to "prominence." The commitment of Allen Crabbe jump-started the class, which then was followed by commitments from Top 150 players Alex Rossi and Richard Solomon. Then came the unfortunate decision of Monty to reject the verbal commitment of Jordin Mayes and take Gary Franklin's commitment. As he conveniently likes to forget, CalBeast (formerly known as Mike Zillion, Bear Island, genykologist, etc.), along with numerous others, railed on me for saying it was a mistake to take Franklin. After a complete HS season of seeing Franklin prove himself unfit to be Cal's PG of the future, Monty makes a good decision in pursuing and landing Minnesota transfer Justin Cobbs. However, after being out-recruited by Gonzaga for the services of 2011 combo guard Gary Bell, Monty decides to offer Canadian "combo guard" Emerson Murray a day after Bell's commitment to Gonzaga.
As of today, Franklin and Rossi, considered to be two of the best shooters in the HS class of 2010, have left the program. Only Crabbe and Cobbs have made significant contributions on the court thus far. The jury remains out on Solomon and Murray, whose butt must be sore from being glued to the bench for most of the year.
Coming off a PAC-10 regular season championship, there were big expectations from many fans for a boost in recruiting. However, Cal again missed on many of its top targets (Gary Bell, Kyle Wiltjer, Juan Anderson among others) and ended up securing only the signature of David Kravish, a thin post from Missouri. Kravish was overlooked by local schools Kansas and Missouri due to his frail-looking frame but has proven to be a solid get for Mike Montgomery and could be a possible All-League player as an upperclassman. Once again, Monty is left having to fill up his scholarships with Spring Late Period signees and transfers. This time he procured Ricky Kreklow, a transfer from Missouri (and is apparently the front-runner to replace Jorge next season at the 2) and Christian Behrens, who chose Cal over schools like Seattle and Eastern Washington.
In a surprising move that caught many fans and observers off guard, Cal accepts an early verbal commitment from a prospect from Colorado named Kaileb Rodriguez. Rodriguez is not projected to be an early contributor but has some athletic upside. Rodriguez is not considered to be as good a prospect as Bak was when he signed with Cal in Fall 2008, but perhaps his career turns out differently, at least we all hope. And once again, Cal struggles to gain traction in recruiting its backyard--the Bay Area--as elite national prospects Brandon Ashley and Dominic Artis, both of whom Cal had been recruiting since their freshman year in HS, both spurned the Bears for other PAC-12 schools. One very positive development was the commitment of Tyrone Wallace, one of the top guards on the West Coast.
Yet again, however, Cal is looking to fill scholarships with Spring Late period signings.
Anything else to add?
Last edited by tsubamoto2001; 03-20-2012 at 09:27 AM.
Here is what I dislike about posts like this - it is a litany of bad news. Yes, our team and program suck. We are cursed as bear fans. Life shits on us along with Bears in the woods.
Whats your answer? Mine is that either Monty Jr. or John Jay gets replaced by a guy who is willing and able to recruit.