Thus, I don't think it makes sense to continue to fill the roster with those kinds of guys. A JC player is less risky, because at least they only use the scholarship for 2 years.
A project big man would be more understandable.
Otherwise, give Thurman a scholie one more year and save it.
More than that, I'm just frustrated with the ineptitude of our coaching staff in recruiting. If Monty thinks that this recruiting stuff is all beneath him, I'm sure there are some nice mid-major programs where he could work and not have the burden of being expected to recruit Top 150 level recruits. But I'm not real keen on extending his contract if he's not going to make improving the quality of guys he gets in here a priority. Even before Rossi announced he was leaving, he had a problem with this year's class because he promised one spot early to a project and had another spot that was being filled by a walkon, combined with a bench full of players that he recruited that (in his eyes) aren't good enough to play. That they are now left scrambling around for the guys that are left in some pathetic recruiting version of musical chairs is entirely a problem that he could have foreseen and that is his responsibility to fix. If his assistants aren't capable of bringing better players in, he needs to be told (since apparently he won't do it himself) to get better ones. If he just doesn't care, then maybe it's time to buy out the contract early and he can go back to being a color commentator and we can get someone who is serious about trying to compete for brass rings.
Monty is really wasting a key assistant coaching spot with his son, we need a recruiting rock star or an up and comer instead of a Cal Basketball twitter admin...
All of these are plausible and many are empowering to the fan base because, at least for some, they serve as a rallying cry. You want 4 and 5 stars? Fine, write a check to the department, schedule a long weekend to get up to the Bay Area and travel better to support the team.
But right now what we see is frankly an abject failure without explination.
Even if you accept that the Pac-12 is "down" here is what we have achieved (and which pales in comparison to the prior regime and arguably is as good as anyone else in the conference.
Dance invite - three of four years. NIT the other
TWO COnference POY
One Conference Championship; 1 second place a game out
Several ALL conference first team members (too lazy to count)
Seeming academic success by our players
Now we have NOT placed someone in the NBA during the MONTY era. A definite ding compared to other programs in the conference. We have also failed to get to the S16 but again, I wonder how much that REALLY matters to kids in comparative recruiting -- doesn't seem to be hurting UCLA that they failed twice in a row to even GET to the dance and CU hadn't won a NCAA tournament game in 20+ years and they have a good class.
As once a wise man said, so find a solution one must first understand the problem. That is what the press needs to find out from the powers that be.
Well said, socaltownie. It is astounding that Jeff Faraudo, John Breech, John Crumpacker, The Daily Cal, Ryan Gorcey, and Bear Insider reporters have not asked Monty the hard questions related to recruiting. Maybe they have, maybe they have not...but I have not read anything specifically about Cal's failure to land impact guys. We have absolutely no idea what the hell the problem is.
Last edited by seattlebear02; 03-28-2012 at 10:41 AM.
Off the top of my head here are some real impediments to recruiting:
1) Despite decent recent success, Cal has very little cachet when it comes to basketball. There are only three current NBA players from Cal, only one of which has any real name recognition (Kidd). Top level recruits care about their potential pro career above anything else and this is a real problem.
2) The academics at Cal are an impediment (not a benefit) to elite recruiting. The elite recruits are rarely scholars and while many might be able to make it at Cal with hard work doing so is considered a road block to their pro career. They want to focus on basketball, not spend all day in the study center. What if they lost time like Solomon? Even if they are interested in academics our success numbers aren't great.
3) The elite recruits are often involved in a very dirty AAU scene and/or have handlers, etc... Forms of pay-offs are common in this world.
4) The facilities are average at best, Haas is not a draw and is a shared facility, and there is no practice facility.
5) Fan support is average, it is a bit of a chicken and egg issue but it is there.
While Montgomery would love to land elite recruits (and it is not like they don't try) it is likely that Cal must build with the next tier of recruits (for whom Cal and the academics are a big draw) until the program and facilities rise and create more of a draw for those just seeking pro basketball careers.