[LessMilesMoreTedford]

The nerve! Doesn't he know he's being an uptight and paranoid control freak??? How dare Oregon be so standoffish with its fans! http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/inde..._spring_f.html

[SadbutTrue999]

He's done that the last few years.

Inb4Chipactuallyhassomethingtohide (be it innovative schemes or a program loaded wtih convicts, take your pick)

[SnoozerBear]

Originally Posted by LessMilesMoreTedford

The nerve! Doesn't he know he's being an uptight and paranoid control freak??? How dare Oregon be so standoffish with its fans! http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/inde..._spring_f.html

Oh the nerve! With only two BCS appearances and a Rose Bowl win in three seasons as a HC, who does he think he is!!

[RealDrew2]

So if you win, closed practices are good, but if you are 7-5, then closed practices are bad.

Whatever.

[82gradDLSdad]

Originally Posted by RealDrew2

So if you win, closed practices are good, but if you are 7-5, then closed practices are bad.

Whatever.

and you get blown out by all the good teams a lot of what you do is bad. If you keep winning the league and going to the Rose Bowl and/or BCS bowls then a lot of what you do is good. Seems pretty simple to me.

[Beardog26]

I agree with this statement. Just don't necessarily agree that JT having closed practices has the impact some may feel it does in leading to that 7-5 record. FAr more important factors are at play.

[GoBears58]

If you keep winning the league and going to the Rose Bowl and/or BCS bowls then a lot of what you do is good. Seems pretty simple to me.[/quote]

Yup, cheating works.

sincerely,

USC, Oregon, and Auburn

[82gradDLSdad]

Originally Posted by Beardog26

I agree with this statement. Just don't necessarily agree that JT having closed practices has the impact some may feel it does in leading to that 7-5 record. FAr more important factors are at play.

add to the perception that Tedford is tight and coaches tight and that makes his players play tight. Chip Kelly can be accused of many things but being tight and having a tight team isn't one of them.

[grandmastapoop]

Originally Posted by 82gradDLSdad

add to the perception that Tedford is tight and coaches tight and that makes his players play tight. Chip Kelly can be accused of many things but being tight and having a tight team isn't one of them.

It's a fallacious argument. There is not even a correlation, let alone causation. Tedford has not had the success we'd all like, and certainly not the success of Chip Kelly. But, as the sane among us have been arguing for years, things like closed practices has NOTHING to do with it.

[Blueblood]

"If we zip up and close these suits, no one will know that we're really bears!"

I wholeheartedly disagree friend Poops. I believe what 82BigDaddy posits is a valid intangible one becomes aware of with experience of observing those things that you believe flow from visible causation and see correlation by holding up to the light. I believeTedford's recent downward lack of success, in small part, (as we apparently share definition of) is directly reflective of the closed practices and the lack of hoped for success. His coach drills are repetitive and too general.....without specific purpose.....

[Bobodeluxe]

Look for both "down the line screen" and halfback dive plays in the upcoming season.

[FingeroftheBear]

Did he get Uncle Phil's okay on this? Because if he didn't...could be trouble.

[Hail2Calif]

Originally Posted by grandmastapoop

It's a fallacious argument. There is not even a correlation, let alone causation. Tedford has not had the success we'd all like, and certainly not the success of Chip Kelly. But, as the sane among us have been arguing for years, things like closed practices has NOTHING to do with it.

Yes. It seemed for years there were certain posters certain that JT's closed practices were a primary reason for our on-field results - usually backed up by some successful program who had open practices -as if THAT was the reason we weren't as succesful.

Well Harbaugh began closing practices at Stanford, I believe Kiffin has closed / limited access to practices, and now Kelly.

Doesn't seem like any of those 3 coaches have lost control of their team or distanced themselves from their fan bases in a negative way as a result of changing practice access policies.

[CALigulabob]

I think its good JT has closed practices.

I wouldnt want the secret to our eventual fake field goal to get out. He's been waitin 10 years for just the right time to unleash it...

[heartofthebear]

Originally Posted by RealDrew2

So if you win, closed practices are good, but if you are 7-5, then closed practices are bad.

Whatever.

you can rearrange these words to get the hidden meaning:

"whatever you do is good when you win and bad when you lose" (unless you're Tiger Woods or Joe Paterno)