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12-24-2012, 08:50 AM

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Jim Harbaugh was totally and thoroughly outcoached by Pete Carroll tonight. The Niners laid a giant turd on a night that they needed to continue building momentum for the playoffs. They have now likely lost their bye for the first round of the playoffs. Injuries to Manningham and Vernon Davis don't help things, although Davis may be back in a week or two. The team just didn't look like they were ready to play, and Tarrel Brown and Carlos Rogers repeatedly got torched by Wilson and the Seahawk receivers. They have to be two of the most overrated cornerbacks in the NFL. This blowout will hurt for awhile.
Totally agree. PC went straight at Aldon w/o Justin Marshawn and company torched them for yards, RW kept plays alive and great ball protection. As for the second half, no effective adjustments, albeit with no Davis or Manningham.

More significantly, terrible red zone execution very telling. This was not just about the niner D or a let down from last week's NE performance, which by the way was fueled by 4 turnovers and short fields in the first half. And they almost lost that game.

A good quarterback and decent D can beat this niner team if they don't cough up the ball to them. It'll be interesting to see how long the injuries keep players out with zero bye week rest, should that come to pass on Sunday....
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12-24-2012, 08:58 AM

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With Marshawn running (Mebane stuffing their run) , and a furdie coaching the other team, it seemed like a visitation from the ghost of the happy Cal past, a vision of the future with Sonny.

Hope there were lots and lots of fusky recruits and commits looking at the wonderful weather and how people futilely dressed to ward off the intense downpour.
That was a visitation of the ghost of their future unless they repent and change. Dark, so cold, so wet, so dismal in uDuh land.
Except it has been cold and rainy in the Bay Area too for the past week.
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12-24-2012, 09:29 AM

Fire him.
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12-24-2012, 09:50 AM

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Except Tedford averaged a blowout loss in 30% of his games the last few years, not just one or two.
To retierate:

Cal played 50 games the past 4 seasons.

16 of those games (32%) were losses of 17 points or more.
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12-24-2012, 10:12 AM

Think it's pretty clear the Kaep showed why he's not a good as the bandwagon says he is.... how his mechanics broke down as he played his street ball.

The worst of it was throwing late into coverage really hanging Manningham & Davis out to dry.

Way to go.
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12-24-2012, 10:27 AM

Kaepernick showed that he's still green but you rarely win games giving up 40 some odd points. The defense didn't looked like its worst all season.
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12-24-2012, 10:33 AM

Not at all ridiculous! I said Harbaugh was outcoached by Carroll in this one game, and that's undeniable. I said nothing about his coaching performance last week against New England or in prior matchups with Carroll and the Seahawks. Please read more carefully.
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12-24-2012, 10:36 AM

The Niners didn't appear ready to play last night, and that failure is on the coaching staff, which is headed by Harbaugh. So, yes, he is accountable for the poor performance last night.
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12-24-2012, 10:50 AM

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Not at all ridiculous! I said Harbaugh was outcoached by Carroll in this one game, and that's undeniable. I said nothing about his coaching performance last week against New England or in prior matchups with Carroll and the Seahawks. Please read more carefully.
Okay, so maybe it's not ridiculous but it is largely meaningless. Teams can play poorly in a single game without it having anything to do with the head coach.
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12-24-2012, 10:51 AM

Hairball was out-coached to some degree but in reality Wilson was just better, way better. He torched the big time Niner D. Rookie of the Year if you ask me.
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12-24-2012, 10:53 AM

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Kaepernick showed that he's still green but you rarely win games giving up 40 some odd points. The defense didn't looked like its worst all season.
90+ plays against the Pats last week and Justin Smith was out. Again, no surprise.
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12-24-2012, 11:00 AM

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Think it's pretty clear the Kaep showed why he's not a good as the bandwagon says he is.... how his mechanics broke down as he played his street ball.

The worst of it was throwing late into coverage really hanging Manningham & Davis out to dry.

Way to go.
Exactley. Can't read defenses. Still not convinced Harbaugh made the correct decision. It was Alex's to lose, but not to an injury
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12-24-2012, 11:05 AM

Shows what a difference maker J. Smith is. When Willis was out for several games last year, the D didn't miss a beat.
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12-24-2012, 11:05 AM

Harbaugh is 5-2 vs Pete
I think we know who usually outcoaches who
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12-24-2012, 11:24 AM

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Think it's pretty clear the Kaep showed why he's not a good as the bandwagon says he is.... how his mechanics broke down as he played his street ball.

The worst of it was throwing late into coverage really hanging Manningham & Davis out to dry.

Way to go.
How did the plays where Manningham and Davis got hurt hang them out to dry? Just because a guy got hurt on a play doesn't mean the QB made a bad throw. The throw to Davis was on the numbers and right against the sidelines. The Seattle safety made a great play to get over there and hit him, but he wasn't "hung out to dry." Manningham was hurt while fighting for extra yardage, not blown up trying to leap for a pass -- why would you blame Kaepernick for that?

There are not a lot of QBs who are going to look good while down by 3 TDs. The offense becomes one-dimensional and the defense brings a fierce pass rush on every play. I'm very doubtful that Alex Smith would have looked any better in the same situation. The game was over once the Seahawks returned a blocked field goal for a TD.

I think it's fair to criticize Kaepernick for being (relatively) slow to read defenses at this stage in his career and for also being bad at minding the play clock (though it's hard to say how much of that is on the offensive coaches). These criticisms are, IMO, not especially fair.
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