<blockquote><div class="name-said">GB54;651152 said:</div><hr>Who cares. If he is good enough to play here the more the merrier<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Well, isn't the point that he very likely isn't good enough to play here, and it's not quite "the more the merrier" because of scholarship limits. That's a scholarship that can be used elsewhere.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BTUR;651194 said:</div><hr>Well, isn't the point that he very likely isn't good enough to play here, and it's not quite "the more the merrier" because of scholarship limits. That's a scholarship that can be used elsewhere.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />That's for the coaching staff to decide. Why say he isn't good enough?

I didn't watch him play at BYU but based on his recruiting hype it's very likely he has the physical tools and talent to be very successful - rather, it's an attitude problem. Having never coached at any level, I don't know how much the staff is willing to risk an attempt to turn his attitude around. <br /><br />Frankly, having endured this season's trials at the QB position only to end with a sense that perhaps some order has been restored, I don't think injecting the team with a big ego is going to help much.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">GB54;651200 said:</div><hr>That's for the coaching staff to decide. Why say he isn't good enough?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Because he's spent the last couple years showing BYU he isn't good enough for them. Why should we think he's good enough for us? Yes, the coaching staff is much better qualified to make this decision than I am...but so is the BYU coaching staff, and he isn't good enough for them. At least Maynard was the guy at Buffalo and had a legitimate reason to transfer (coaching staff getting hired at a better school) - with Heaps, everything about his transfer situation reflects negatively on him as a person and player.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BTUR;651225 said:</div><hr>Because he's spent the last couple years showing BYU he isn't good enough for them. Why should we think he's good enough for us? Yes, the coaching staff is much better qualified to make this decision than I am...but so is the BYU coaching staff, and he isn't good enough for them. At least Maynard was the guy at Buffalo and had a legitimate reason to transfer (coaching staff getting hired at a better school) - with Heaps, everything about his transfer situation reflects negatively on him as a person and player.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />But that's Tedford's job to evaluate his potential against what he has in house. And if a transfer from Buffalo can come here and win the job, what he has in house isn't that daunting. There are a myriad of reasons as to why he may not succeed at BYU but they don't mean he can't succeed here.

Every hotshot highly-recruited QB has a big ego. If you are a 17 year old garnering headlines everyday and being chased by all of the hot girls, how can he not have a big ego? Heap had all the tools necessary for success in college ball two years ago. I have no idea what happened to him at BYU. But I know I would be quite miserable if I felt obligated to go to such an isolated Mormon school with a culture that would seem very strange and restrictive to a normal college student feeling his oats away from home for the first time. Maynard left Buffalo to come to Cal and was much more successful here than at Buffalo with a new system and better coaching. Why not Heaps? If JT wants to try him out, it's no real loss if one of the bench QBs who will never see action at Cal in a real game chooses to transfer and be a star for another college.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">GB54;651232 said:</div><hr>But that's Tedford's job to evaluate his potential against what he has in house. And if a transfer from Buffalo can come here and win the job, what he has in house isn't that daunting. There are a myriad of reasons as to why he may not succeed at BYU but they don't mean he can't succeed here.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Well, we've seen what we had to offer at the time in Mansion and Sweeney. I think we can say very confidently that it is true, what we had in the house was not daunting at all. I would hope we've progressed from that at least a bit with the guys in the program now. No doubt it's possible he succeeds somewhere else. Seems to me it's the much less likely scenario, though. When the insiders don't think that much of you (in this case, the BYU coaching staff)...not a good sign. Suggests he doesn't do well in all the little factors that make a player successful that are difficult to judge from the outside (things like work ethic, attitude, mental capacity, coachability, etc)...<br /><br />I guess I'm just not seeing anything positive here, other than at one point a few years ago people thought he was super talented.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">tenplay;651245 said:</div><hr>Every hotshot highly-recruited QB has a big ego. If you are a 17 year old garnering headlines everyday and being chased by all of the hot girls, how can he not have a big ego? Heap had all the tools necessary for success in college ball two years ago. I have no idea what happened to him at BYU. But I know I would be quite miserable if I felt obligated to go to such an isolated Mormon school with a culture that would seem very strange and restrictive to a normal college student feeling his oats away from home for the first time. Maynard left Buffalo to come to Cal and was much more successful here than at Buffalo with a new system and better coaching. Why not Heaps? If JT wants to try him out, it's no real loss if one of the bench QBs who will never see action at Cal in a real game chooses to transfer and be a star for another college.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I don't think we can necessarily say Maynard has been much more successful here than at Buffalo. He was a sophomore at Buffalo, which also means he was surrounded by Buffalo talent. Of course we'd expect him to progress some with 2 more years experience, and for guys like his brother and Marv to help make him look good.<br /><br />I dunno about the obligated thing. Obviously I cannot speak to Heaps mindset, but he did choose to go there, after all. Anyways, a few things: we don't know that any of our current QB's are transferring (so far I don't think any of them have been passed on the depth chart by someone younger, have they, so everyone is still in line for PT), even if they are, the opportunity cost is still a scholarship at any position, and I would suggest Heaps being such a hyped prospect was people projecting what he'd be able to do at the next level. So far, he hasn't lived up to those forecasts. Most likely, they were just wrong in their projections (and hey, predicting the future is tough work, you're gonna be wrong quite often no matter how good you are at it). I'm sure the kid has physical tools, and I'm not saying he can't possibly turn things around...but basically, at one point he was projected to be a star, but since then, every piece of info we've gotten suggests otherwise. I just don't see much reason to use a scholarship on him. He hasn't shown a reason to since HS, has he? When you get new information, you gotta adjust your forecasts for it...

How badly must this guy hate Utah to prefer sitting on the bench at Cal?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BeachyBear;651332 said:</div><hr>How badly must this guy hate Utah to prefer sitting on the bench at Cal?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />It isn't just Utah, its Provo and BYU.

He didn't hate life when he was big man on campus. The kid can't handle not being THE MAN, so he is running away. The kid has some major ego problems. I hope Tedford doesn't want him, even though he won't be missed here. It sucks since he was BYU's biggest get in forever, but Bronco likes "gamers".

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BearEatsTacos;650979 said:</div><hr>No way.<br /><br />Based on everything we've heard from BYU, Heaps is not that good. Bridgford is one injury or concussion away from starting. Transferring because of Heaps is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />+1<br />I can't believe folks are recommending that some of our better recruits <br />transfer just because we are adding depth. Why do Cal fans have to shoot<br />themselves in the foot by turning good news into bad news. <br /><br />We have players wanting to transfer to Cal, decommiting to come to Cal<br />and we have top recruits from all over the country traveling to visit Cal with genuine interest in committing to Cal. This is all really good news. It is not a problem. If some players have a problem with it, then that is their opinion. But we should not be telling them what to think and/or decide. Like I said before, most highly successful programs accross the country have this kind of "problem" and for the most part, players do not transfer. I assume they don't transfer because they like being on teams that are talented, successful and championship caliber.<br /><br />Being Cal fans, we aren't used to these kind of heights, but instead of <br />complaining about the nose bleeds, why not enjoy the view?<br /><br />I trust the Cal coaches to assess the situation and make the right decision after discussing it with the players.<br />Edit: As far as Heaps goes: Young players can turn themselves around quite quickly with a change of scene. And going from independent Provo, to BCS conference Berkeley, is definitely a change of scene.