UCBerkGrad said:
Removing hot chicks from sporting events (or any event) is always a bad idea.
UCBerkGrad said:
Removing hot chicks is always a bad idea.
Well said. I also miss the school spirit and don't like the entertainment "game day experience," which is a major reason I gave up my season tickets three years ago after 26 years of CMS, rain or shine. I still root for the Bears but recognize that the rich get richer in today's college football Division 1 world, and we aren't rich.MSaviolives said:
I am a little torn here. I loath the corporatization of the game experience. The game experience I grew up in will never return. Then, the experience was one of school spirit, which came organically from the band, cheer leaders, yell leaders, students and the crowd at large. Now, the experience is one of entertainment and advertising, which is doled out through a tightly scripted blur of announcements, recorded music, sponsored award ceremonies, contests, and videos--with periodic, scheduled interruptions for the band to play or the yell leaders to try to get a cheer out of the crowd. Like I said, I understand time marches on. So...get off my lawn or something.
But..... what happened to those talented and attractive young ladies who wore the sequined gold outfits? I saw them at both football and basketball games, and then they disappeared.
Are you referring to the Bearettes? They are a self-organized student group, inspired by HBCU-style dance groups. They are not a part of the Cal Dance Team, Cheerleading, or the AD.MSaviolives said:
I am a little torn here. I loath the corporatization of the game experience. The game experience I grew up in will never return. Then, the experience was one of school spirit, which came organically from the band, cheer leaders, yell leaders, students and the crowd at large. Now, the experience is one of entertainment and advertising, which is doled out through a tightly scripted blur of announcements, recorded music, sponsored award ceremonies, contests, and videos--with periodic, scheduled interruptions for the band to play or the yell leaders to try to get a cheer out of the crowd. Like I said, I understand time marches on. So...get off my lawn or something.
But..... what happened to those talented and attractive young ladies who wore the sequined gold outfits? I saw them at both football and basketball games, and then they disappeared.
Yes! Go Bearettes! The cheer leaders and dance team are fine, but the Bearettes have elan.Fyght4Cal said:Are you referring to the Bearettes? They are a self-organized student group, inspired by HBCU-style dance groups. They are not a part of the Cal Dance Team, Cheerleading, or the AD.MSaviolives said:
I am a little torn here. I loath the corporatization of the game experience. The game experience I grew up in will never return. Then, the experience was one of school spirit, which came organically from the band, cheer leaders, yell leaders, students and the crowd at large. Now, the experience is one of entertainment and advertising, which is doled out through a tightly scripted blur of announcements, recorded music, sponsored award ceremonies, contests, and videos--with periodic, scheduled interruptions for the band to play or the yell leaders to try to get a cheer out of the crowd. Like I said, I understand time marches on. So...get off my lawn or something.
But..... what happened to those talented and attractive young ladies who wore the sequined gold outfits? I saw them at both football and basketball games, and then they disappeared.
If some Song Girls joined in a "Fire Helton" chant, that's not a good look. Certainly it would call for disciplining the offenders, at least. But, it may have provided an excuse for AD Swann to make a sweeping move he was already planning.Cal8285 said:
IMO, the big question isn't whether this is just about more corporate promotions and ignoring tradition. The interesting question is whether Swann made his decision at least in part because some Song Girls were purported to have joined in a Fire Helton chant.
See, for instance, https://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/lynn-swann-ban-usc-song-girls-fire-helton-chants/481452 or just Google "USC Song Girls fire Helton" and you'll find plenty of discussion.
The timing of the decision does seem suspect. There had probably been discussions about what to do regarding the limited time for participation, but why not make that call over the summer, or a different time than right as basketball season is starting?
There is no smoking gun, but the circumstances don't make Swann look good here.
Caruso is an interesting guy - very political and from what I know (limited) a difficult personality. Seems like he's trying to remake USC in his preferred image and trustees are not happy.wifeisafurd said:
Song Girls is the tip (no pun intended) of the iceberg. You have billionaire trustees at war with each other.
Wealthy USC donors revolt after interim president pushes out top dean over handling of misconduct cases https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-usc-president-school-20181204-story.html
They're great.OldenBear said:
screw $C, and Swann. Let's focus back on the Bearettes - loved 'em at basketball games, and that might be the best thing that COULD happen at Haas this year. Bring 'em back!
I believe these two issues are related. At USC, in 2019, the old way of doing business is over. Deans, doctors, and Song Girls alike must take actions that conform to the new realities, or find themselves on the outside looking in.wifeisafurd said:
Song Girls is the tip (no pun intended) of the iceberg. You have billionaire trustees at war with each other.
Wealthy USC donors revolt after interim president pushes out top dean over handling of misconduct cases https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-usc-president-school-20181204-story.html
The Bearettes were at the Cal/Colorado basketball game tonight, in the bleachers at the south end of the court.socaliganbear said:They're great.OldenBear said:
screw $C, and Swann. Let's focus back on the Bearettes - loved 'em at basketball games, and that might be the best thing that COULD happen at Haas this year. Bring 'em back!
Dang! The one game I miss...Golden One said:The Bearettes were at the Cal/Colorado basketball game tonight, in the bleachers at the south end of the court.socaliganbear said:They're great.OldenBear said:
screw $C, and Swann. Let's focus back on the Bearettes - loved 'em at basketball games, and that might be the best thing that COULD happen at Haas this year. Bring 'em back!
The Brearettes are the only reason to see a basketball game at Haas.MSaviolives said:Dang! The one game I miss...Golden One said:The Bearettes were at the Cal/Colorado basketball game tonight, in the bleachers at the south end of the court.socaliganbear said:They're great.OldenBear said:
screw $C, and Swann. Let's focus back on the Bearettes - loved 'em at basketball games, and that might be the best thing that COULD happen at Haas this year. Bring 'em back!
A men's game, yes.wifeisafurd said:The Brearettes are the only reason to see a basketball game at Haas.MSaviolives said:Dang! The one game I miss...Golden One said:The Bearettes were at the Cal/Colorado basketball game tonight, in the bleachers at the south end of the court.socaliganbear said:They're great.OldenBear said:
screw $C, and Swann. Let's focus back on the Bearettes - loved 'em at basketball games, and that might be the best thing that COULD happen at Haas this year. Bring 'em back!
