cal83dls79 said:
71Bear said:
cal83dls79 said:
The big rumor here today was that the pats would or should make a move to get Rosen. The comparisons to him and Goff were soooo off the mark. But I agree with GMP even though he over uses geez
The comparisons are correct if one is looking at their respective rookie seasons. Both Goff and Rosen were awful due to substandard coaching.
you are correct, but the media here has zero respect for Goff and overlook all of his other positives....including having led his team to a super bowl. Drives me nuts.
As my above post suggests, there's a difference between having bad coaches and having inexperienced coaches. The problem with the media narrative on Goff is that, hey, he just had bad coaches. But it's worse than that: his coaches were completely inexperienced. At least most bad coaches* have experience to offer *some* help.
Goff went from having coaches who were completely inexperienced to Sean McVay. McVay is a genius, but he had only 3 years experience as an OC when the Rams hired him and no experience as a QB coach. So he hired as his offensive coordinator Matt LeFleur, who had 6 years experience as a QB coach, to be his OC. And he hired Greg Olson, who had 16 years experience as an OC and/or QB coach, to be his QB coach.
So Goff went from a staff with a combined 1 year experience as OC and QB coach to a staff with a combined 23 years experience as OC and QB coach. And that explains his dramatic improvement.
(*An example of having bad but experienced coaches benefitting a QB: Baker Mayfield. The 2018 Browns staff had a combined 33 years experience as an offensive coordinator and QB coach, including the coaches who were fired.)
People like to compare Goff's rookie year situation to other QBs' situations. But Goff's situation was completely unique in its badness. Even Mitch Trubitsky, who has often drawn comparisons to Goff, had experienced offensive coaches his rookie year.