Blueblood said:
heartofthebear said:
Mattwlcx1- said:
You misread what I wrote. My first sentence was that I believed WSU would have made the championship Game in at least 2 years and maybe all 4. I never said we would have won the championship. But if we didn't have to play Oregon, Stanford, Cal, and UW all 4 of those years and replace them with all the south teams we would have been in that game. We have been 13-3 against the South the last 4 years.
But my main point is if Cal can get to that point where you guys are competing for championships up to the last game of the season and ranked every year, like WSU is, the better recruits will come with that. And you guys can definitely get to that point with the recruits you are getting if you get the right players for your system and have the right coaches in place. Yes it's faster to be able to get to that point with 4/5 star guys but to say that you can't get there with a bunch of 3 star guys that you are getting just isn't true.
Holy c#$p!
We are actually 13-3 over the last 4 years against the south?
Well that's something for me to go to sleep on.
Sweet dreams!
Edit: Oh woops, you were talking about WSU. I guess I'm staying up.
We were 5-11 (point differential of -70) against the south over the last 4 years so what's your point again?
An interesting thing about those 11 losses, only 5 of them were by more than 1 score. Overall 9 of the 16 games were by one score or less. So we could have had a 13-3 record as well, had things been just a little different.
Hearofthebear you're tired goto bed!
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Looks to me that 70% of the offer are not Mountain West.
That's without counting.
***?
You make a valid observation, and I made a confusing but still valid labeling decision.
Yes, 40 or 29% of the total 138 offers made to the 16 recruits making up the 2020 class so far are from the MWC schools. This means that 71% of the remaining offers are not from MWC schools as you so astutely point out.
My underlying question is, "Is the above good or bad with respect to Cal attaining success (as I define it)?"
Thus, I was stating my position that what is of import is the talent-level pool making up the offers, not so much how many offers came from MWC schools. For want of an eye-catching and provocative title I deemed Cal is swimming more in the MWC pool, which includes several lesser talented pools (identified so, below, per my prejudice) which I see delaying any embryonic football success when compared to the other P12
north division recruiting swimming holes.
What I mean is that I looked at the other 98 or 71% of the offers a little more closely. I found that 40 offers also came from P12 schools. A tie between the MWC and P12, but what about the still remaining 58 offers?
So this is what I did to make my unpopular point.
I increased the size of the MWC or lesser talented labeled pool by subtracting Cal's 16 offers, 12 of what I call academic offers (like from Yale, Harvard, Princeton, etc.), 5 offers from military schools (like Army), and 9 offers from DII schools (or FCS level members like Montana St., Southern Utah, Northern Arizona, UC Davis, Central Michigan, etc.) from the remaining balance of the above cited 58 offers (note, I should've subtracted all the Oregon State offers too but I didn't), then after doing this I
increased the MWC pool with these subtracted 42 offers for a total of 82 (I kept the MWC title because it was the dominant offeror or swimmer).
So, 59.5% of the offers came from the MWC level recruiting pool.
Figuring in the P12 offer 29% with the aforementioned 59.5%, it can be surmised that
only 11.5% of the offers came from Power 5 schools (like Florida, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Boston College, etc.) outside the P12.
Hence, Cal has got to change its current swimming habits or get new swimming trunks!
(I did ignore the facts that a couple of Cal's recruits had many more offers than the others which may have padded the Power 5 and P 12 percentages and that two of the recruits didn't receive any offers from other P12 members. I did this even though to include such would have only strengthen my position.)