Seen a few names thrown around that look like a 5 year olds unrealistic Christmas List, but no rumors. Will we have to wait until after the Bowl season?
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Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
This Salt Lake columnist, back then, pretty much said Wittingham asked Taylor to move onHungryCalBear said:
Just curious ... was Troy's transition from P5 OC to HC at Sac State a similar situation with Baldwin's from OC at Cal to HC at Cal Poly. Was he being asked to leave in a classy way? Honest question!
No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
Thanks. That article doesn't cast a good light on Taylor.YamhillBear said:This Salt Lake columnist, back then, pretty much said Wittingham asked Taylor to move onHungryCalBear said:
Just curious ... was Troy's transition from P5 OC to HC at Sac State a similar situation with Baldwin's from OC at Cal to HC at Cal Poly. Was he being asked to leave in a classy way? Honest question!
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2018/12/18/monson-troy-taylor-is/
YamhillBear said:This Salt Lake columnist, back then, pretty much said Wittingham asked Taylor to move onHungryCalBear said:
Just curious ... was Troy's transition from P5 OC to HC at Sac State a similar situation with Baldwin's from OC at Cal to HC at Cal Poly. Was he being asked to leave in a classy way? Honest question!
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2018/12/18/monson-troy-taylor-is/
He wrote the book on his Go-Go offenseYamhillBear said:
Back to the original topic, Brennan Marion's name came up today in terms of our OC position, albeit not in terms of us expressing interest in him, but in terms of him expressing interest in us. Currently OC at William and Mary.
Claim to coaching fame appears to be that he was OC for Howard when, as a 45-point underdog, they upset UNLV. Pretty sparse resume it seems to me. But he was also mentioned in terms of OC vacancies at Auburn and Syracuse, so maybe there's something there between the lines of the resume?
Speaking of reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Wilcox picks somebody that he knows. Not saying "one of his buddies", but somebody that he personally trusts would be good. If it's not somebody he's worked with, then somebody that brings strong recommendations from people Wilcox has worked with.71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
I was wondering about this. Is that the professional thing to do in this situation? Might a new OC be hired behind the scenes to get a head start (general preparation, recruiting)? Don't know the rules or etiquette.FrankBear21 said:
Since Baldwin is coaching in the bowl, I wouldn't expect anything till Jan.
I fully expect Wilcox to select a guy with whom he is familiar or a guy who receives a strong recommendation from someone whose opinion is highly valued by Wilcox.Big C said:Speaking of reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Wilcox picks somebody that he knows. Not saying "one of his buddies", but somebody that he personally trusts would be good. If it's not somebody he's worked with, then somebody that brings strong recommendations from people Wilcox has worked with.71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
So if anybody wants to do us some homework, what highly regarded offensive minds (somebody who might be available) have worked with Wilcox? And assuming DeRuyter has Wilcox's complete trust, same question for TDR.
And bring with them the cadre of fellow FG P-5 offensive Cognoscenti.72CalBear said:
Replacements? Are you kidding me?? JW doesn't have to look any further than the BI board! Plenty of offensive experts here!!
No, this is a Whittingham problem. Taylor's offense is not his style and he shouldn't have hired him in the first place. A true Taylor offense would have given Oregon a game for the title, not the Ludwig/Whittingham borefest. Living in the Sacramento area and watching Sac St all year, the transformation from 2 win to a 10 win team was amazing with basically the same team from 2018. With even half the imagination of Sac St's offense this year, Cal would have been a 9 or 10 win team. I'm not advocating Taylor for OC, but Cal would be lucky to have him and should find someone like him to hire.HungryCalBear said:Thanks. That article doesn't cast a good light on Taylor.YamhillBear said:This Salt Lake columnist, back then, pretty much said Wittingham asked Taylor to move onHungryCalBear said:
Just curious ... was Troy's transition from P5 OC to HC at Sac State a similar situation with Baldwin's from OC at Cal to HC at Cal Poly. Was he being asked to leave in a classy way? Honest question!
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2018/12/18/monson-troy-taylor-is/
Could then have a Wilcox problem, because we look an awful lot like Utah lite. I'm thinking like '71 that it someone connected to Wilcox (or connected to someone who is connected to Wilcox). Also, given some of the staff's weaknesses, someone with recruiting chops and who runs an offense with Tight Ends, and is balanced (not a spread guy).C6Bear said:No, this is a Whittingham problem. Taylor's offense is not his style and he shouldn't have hired him in the first place. A true Taylor offense would have given Oregon a game for the title, not the Ludwig/Whittingham borefest. Living in the Sacramento area and watching Sac St all year, the transformation from 2 win to a 10 win team was amazing with basically the same team from 2018. With even half the imagination of Sac St's offense this year, Cal would have been a 9 or 10 win team. I'm not advocating Taylor for OC, but Cal would be lucky to have him and should find someone like him to hire.HungryCalBear said:Thanks. That article doesn't cast a good light on Taylor.YamhillBear said:This Salt Lake columnist, back then, pretty much said Wittingham asked Taylor to move onHungryCalBear said:
Just curious ... was Troy's transition from P5 OC to HC at Sac State a similar situation with Baldwin's from OC at Cal to HC at Cal Poly. Was he being asked to leave in a classy way? Honest question!
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2018/12/18/monson-troy-taylor-is/
I call this Ernie Kent syndrome. People who want a person, in any job at any level, just because they played/attented/coached/whatevered for your team/school/program/whatever, blow my mind. Would this person even be on the radar if they weren't a former xyz?71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
We call it Joe Kapp syndrome, but there's a slight chance that it may be renamed Troy Taylor syndrome.ducktilldeath said:I call this Ernie Kent syndrome. People who want a person, in any job at any level, just because they played/attented/coached/whatevered for your team/school/program/whatever, blow my mind. Would this person even be on the radar if they weren't a former xyz?71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
Big C said:We call it Joe Kapp syndrome, but there's a slight chance that it may be renamed Troy Taylor syndrome.ducktilldeath said:I call this Ernie Kent syndrome. People who want a person, in any job at any level, just because they played/attented/coached/whatevered for your team/school/program/whatever, blow my mind. Would this person even be on the radar if they weren't a former xyz?71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
If we got someone from that level, he probably would not be here long. Rather not have to go through this very often, even though we know it's a vagabond profession.mdbear said:
Notre Dame just fired its OC even though the reason seems to be a bit of a mystery (their offense was doing well). I can't find any salary data because Notre Dame is so secretive. If the reason for his termination is Notre Dame's totally unrealistic expectations, he might be a possibility.
This.71Bear said:I fully expect Wilcox to select a guy with whom he is familiar or a guy who receives a strong recommendation from someone whose opinion is highly valued by Wilcox.Big C said:Speaking of reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Wilcox picks somebody that he knows. Not saying "one of his buddies", but somebody that he personally trusts would be good. If it's not somebody he's worked with, then somebody that brings strong recommendations from people Wilcox has worked with.71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
So if anybody wants to do us some homework, what highly regarded offensive minds (somebody who might be available) have worked with Wilcox? And assuming DeRuyter has Wilcox's complete trust, same question for TDR.
ducktilldeath said:
I'd go hard after Rhett Lashlee. Zak Hill at BSU is going to get a pay day pretty soon.
71Bear said:I fully expect Wilcox to select a guy with whom he is familiar or a guy who receives a strong recommendation from someone whose opinion is highly valued by Wilcox.Big C said:Speaking of reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Wilcox picks somebody that he knows. Not saying "one of his buddies", but somebody that he personally trusts would be good. If it's not somebody he's worked with, then somebody that brings strong recommendations from people Wilcox has worked with.71Bear said:No thank you. I would expect Wilcox to hire a guy based on merit rather than where he went to college.Cal88 said:
Troy Taylor should be the top target.
From the Sac State site:Quote:
Taylor took a sizable pay cut to come to Sacramento State, where his base annual pay is $242,000. That's about $1.7 million through the duration of his seven-year contract. Taylor's 2018 base salary at Utah was $525,000, plus a bonus of $87,500, a total about 2 times his annual take at Sacramento State, where he is the highest-paid coach.
"It's never been about the money for me," says Taylor, who will earn a bonus if the Hornets win the conference title. "It's about believing in where I am and being challenged. My goal when I left Folsom High School was to one day be a head coach, and this is a great opportunity. They're paying me well. This is where I want to be."
The main issue here is he's built some local bridges and personal relationships, and leaving after just one season is tough. He might be thinking about taking over a P5 program down the line, which given the job he's done so far at Sac State looks like a reasonable prospect.
But given that it's his alma mater, he might take the job, especially if he feels that one of his top SSU assistants could carry on with that program. I would think the Cal HC job would be his dream job, being the OC at 51 gets him on that path and puts him in a great position to contribute to the program.
So if anybody wants to do us some homework, what highly regarded offensive minds (somebody who might be available) have worked with Wilcox? And assuming DeRuyter has Wilcox's complete trust, same question for TDR.
Chris Peterson is out of a job.OaktownBear said:ducktilldeath said:
I'd go hard after Rhett Lashlee. Zak Hill at BSU is going to get a pay day pretty soon.
LOL
FuzzyWuzzy said:Chris Peterson is out of a job.OaktownBear said:ducktilldeath said:
I'd go hard after Rhett Lashlee. Zak Hill at BSU is going to get a pay day pretty soon.
LOL
What's your opinion of his offense?kad02002 said:
Brennan Marion. Unique run-based offense and a young guy with Bay Area connections.