Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

I remember that we wanted him though.

burritos said:

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I remember that we wanted him though.

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I remember some Cal fans wanted him. Just like some of us wanted Tosh and Kiffin.

Chip Kelly would have been a home run hire for Cal at the time. Good thing that didn't happen.

This. There were probably many who would've liked to see Chip in the blue and gold. However, after his disaster with the 49ers, the continuing evolution of defensive tendencies against Chip's scheme, and knowing the low academic bar his Oregon players had to clear in the recruiting game, I was not convinced that he was going to be as successful at a higher level academic institution (UCLA being one, but even more true had it been Cal).

Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

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Sure, but Cal also had a better overall (even winning) record to supplement that "smallest level of respectability."

NYCGOBEARS said:

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Chipper at Fucla makes me very happy.

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I'd be happy too if I had the
T-shirt below:

Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

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One of those four was the most epic coug-ing since Cal 60, WSU 59

01Bear said:

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Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

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Sure, but Cal also had a better overall (even winning) record to supplement that "smallest level of respectability."

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You don't say? Well how about that! Beating OOC teams has really garnered a lot of respect in the confernece
for the Bears to the point where the fans are clawing their way into CMS!

Defensive line coaches typically don't make great DCs.

In order to be a successful DC, you need to understand and call coverage schemes. DB coaching do this. LB coaches also have knowledge of this. DLine coaches? No.

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Blueblood, UCLA to the Mountain West, your thoughts?

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Football Winning % over Past 5 Years with National Rank

15. Washington .701
19. Utah .687
22. Stanford .662
WSU .662
28. USC .636
32. Oregon .631
62. Cal .524
66. ASU .516
84. Colorado .460
96. Arizona .419
100. UCLA .403
122. OSU .233

Sounds good to me, especially if Cal went along too. Using TheSouseFamily provided data, it doesn't appear Cal will be doing much in the Pac-12 for next 5 years. Note the north division members, UDub, furds, Wazzu, Oregon are all ahead of the Bears' percentage, but ucla looks to be in Cal's league.

4th straight losing season, eh? Other than when that program first started (5 straight L seasons '19-'24), the worst they had done was 3 in a row '62-'64. I'm hoping he wins 6 next regular season, 7 in '21, and gets the boot only after 2022.

Blueblood said:

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01Bear said:

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Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

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Sure, but Cal also had a better overall (even winning) record to supplement that "smallest level of respectability."

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You don't say? Well how about that! Beating OOC teams has really garnered a lot of respect in the confernece
for the Bears to the point where the fans are clawing their way into CMS!

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It's garnered more respect in the conference than previously, when Cal was considered a doormat with its matador defense.

Blueblood said:

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01Bear said:

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Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

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Sure, but Cal also had a better overall (even winning) record to supplement that "smallest level of respectability."

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You don't say? Well how about that! Beating OOC teams has really garnered a lot of respect in the confernece
for the Bears to the point where the fans are clawing their way into CMS!

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Yep, with all our players healthy we put up 27 on UC Davis, just like Sac State did!

Cal OOC opponents
Win over 5-7 UC Davis
Win over 4-8 North Texas
Win over 4-8 Ole Miss
Bowl win over 6-7 Illinois

Collectively 19-30

UCLA OOC opponents
Loss to 11-3 Cincinnati
Loss to 10-3 San Diego State
Loss to 12-2 Oklahoma

Collectively 33-8

We would definitely be feeling differently if we didn't have the 3 OOC wins, two over complete patsies, and had finished 4-8. The Axe would still be just as sweet (though FWIW UCLA beat Stanford too, by 18 points versus our 4 points). We did beat UCLA in the head to head, however.

That said, with Musgrave coming in I am feeling very optimistic.

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Blueblood said:

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01Bear said:

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Blueblood said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Not a ton of new conclusions (Chip is losing, players are transferring and he can't recruit). Only mind blower to me is that they may be bringing Azz back as DC. That's beyond belief given their defensive performance. And some of these numbers are pretty shocking. Worth a read if you're interested in hearing about the demise of one of our perennial rivals.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872260-after-4th-straight-losing-season-what-is-going-on-with-ucla-football

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I was getting ready to throw a rock when I noticed the following from the cited article:

"UCLA managed only the smallest level of respectability with a 4-5 record in Pac-12 play."

Didn't Cal have a similar 4-5 conference record?

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Sure, but Cal also had a better overall (even winning) record to supplement that "smallest level of respectability."

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You don't say? Well how about that! Beating OOC teams has really garnered a lot of respect in the confernece
for the Bears to the point where the fans are clawing their way into CMS!

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Yep, with all our players healthy we put up 27 on UC Davis, just like Sac State did!

Cal OOC opponents
Win over 5-7 UC Davis
Win over 4-8 North Texas
Win over 4-8 Ole Miss
Bowl win over 6-7 Illinois

Collectively 19-30

UCLA OOC opponents
Loss to 11-3 Cincinnati
Loss to 10-3 San Diego State
Loss to 12-2 Oklahoma

Collectively 33-8

We would definitely be feeling differently if we didn't have the 3 OOC wins, two over complete patsies, and had finished 4-8. The Axe would still be just as sweet (though FWIW UCLA beat Stanford too, by 18 points versus our 4 points). We did beat UCLA in the head to head, however.

That said, with Musgrave coming in I am feeling very optimistic.

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As you well know, Cal can only play the teams on its schedule, which is usually something that was contracted years in advance. While Davis and North Texas were unlikely to be juggernauts, who knew Ole Miss would be so bad? Additionally, the Illinois victory was in a bowl game, meaning the Illini weren't horrible, even if they weren't great.

Kind of a mystery what is going on with Chip. The last couple years it has been because they are one of the youngest teams. That means guys are leaving or next year the excuse has run its course.

He has a good QB, so that excuse is gone.

Her has had a good running back.

The oline is again all frosh. Why?

The defense is young.

Why no transfers or JC. Really don't get the continuing lack of class balance. It is like watching Wilcox in reverse.

What am I missing?

wifeisafurd said:

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Kind of a mystery what is going on with Chip. The last couple years it has been because they are one of the youngest teams. That means guys are leaving or next year the excuse has run its course.

He has a good QB, so that excuse is gone.

Her has had a good running back.

The oline is again all frosh. Why?

The defense is young.

Why no transfers or JC. Really don't get the continuing lack of class balance. It is like watching Wilcox in reverse.

What am I missing?

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Rumor has it that Chip Kelly hates recruiting. Maybe he's the Monty version of a football coach, only he's also lost his mojo (whereas, Monty was still a good regular season coach).

01Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Kind of a mystery what is going on with Chip. The last couple years it has been because they are one of the youngest teams. That means guys are leaving or next year the excuse has run its course.

He has a good QB, so that excuse is gone.

Her has had a good running back.

The oline is again all frosh. Why?

The defense is young.

Why no transfers or JC. Really don't get the continuing lack of class balance. It is like watching Wilcox in reverse.

What am I missing?

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Rumor has it that Chip Kelly hates recruiting. Maybe he's the Monty version of a football coach, only he's also lost his mojo (whereas, Monty was still a good regular season coach).

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If you read their board the Bruin fans seem pretty convinced they will soon be fielding a team composed exclusively of preferred walk ons. Apparently they have an endless supply of those.

wifeisafurd said:

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Kind of a mystery what is going on with Chip. The last couple years it has been because they are one of the youngest teams. That means guys are leaving or next year the excuse has run its course.

He has a good QB, so that excuse is gone.

Her has had a good running back.

The oline is again all frosh. Why?

The defense is young.

Why no transfers or JC. Really don't get the continuing lack of class balance. It is like watching Wilcox in reverse.

What am I missing?

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I don't think you're missing anything. Chip loves to play the youth card. He makes you think it was something he inherited. He never explains why so many veterans left the program under his watch.