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12:38p, 11/10/21
Looks like we've signed a new power forward alongside Okafor. Most of his offers are from mid-majors, but this is an interesting signing.

https://calbears.com/news/2021/11/10/mens-basketball-cal-signs-forwards-okafor-newell.aspx

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/grant-newell

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1:02p, 11/10/21
Welcome to Cal Grant!
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In reply to Chunger89 • 1:04p, 11/10/21
Looks like a good get. We are certainly getting longer and more athletic:



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3:24p, 11/10/21

Hey, Grant, welcome to the Cal Family! Newell is a pretty great name to have around Cal Basketball. We look forward to cheering you on!
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In reply to Big C • 4:10p, 11/10/21
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Hey, Grant, welcome to the Cal Family! Newell is a pretty great name to have around Cal Basketball. We look forward to cheering you on!
Attended Dennis Gates' High School.
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5:01p, 11/10/21
Another welcome to Cal and welcome to Berkeley!

Looking very smooth.
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7:51p, 11/10/21
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
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In reply to HoopDreams • 8:11p, 11/10/21
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looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
I think we have not seen the real Jalen Celestine yet. But Newell seems like he should have gotten more attention and I can't figure out why he didn't.
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In reply to sluggo • 8:41p, 11/10/21
sluggo said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
I think we have not seen the real Jalen Celestine yet. But Newell seems like he should have gotten more attention and I can't figure out why he didn't.
Would have been quite a good 22 class had we landed Aidan Mahaney. Btw, sorry I'm late to the ballgame on this one, but why did Aidan commit when the top international prospect (Sarunas Marciulionis' son), who also happens to be a PG, is going to St. Mary's?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31647018/augustus-marciulionis-top-international-basektball-prospect-commits-saint-marys
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 8:14a, 11/11/21
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
I think we have not seen the real Jalen Celestine yet. But Newell seems like he should have gotten more attention and I can't figure out why he didn't.
Would have been quite a good 22 class had we landed Aidan Mahaney. Btw, sorry I'm late to the ballgame on this one, but why did Aidan commit when the top international prospect (Sarunas Marciulionis' son), who also happens to be a PG, is going to St. Mary's?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31647018/augustus-marciulionis-top-international-basektball-prospect-commits-saint-marys
I brought up the same issue and was told that SMC plays a lot of 2 PG offense. But IMO, that's another fail on our recruitment of Aidan. At Cal the door is wide open for PG play. He chose a school with a top rated PG in the class ahead of him.
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In reply to BC Calfan • 4:31p, 11/11/21
BC Calfan said:
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
I think we have not seen the real Jalen Celestine yet. But Newell seems like he should have gotten more attention and I can't figure out why he didn't.
Would have been quite a good 22 class had we landed Aidan Mahaney. Btw, sorry I'm late to the ballgame on this one, but why did Aidan commit when the top international prospect (Sarunas Marciulionis' son), who also happens to be a PG, is going to St. Mary's?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31647018/augustus-marciulionis-top-international-basektball-prospect-commits-saint-marys
I brought up the same issue and was told that SMC plays a lot of 2 PG offense. But IMO, that's another fail on our recruitment of Aidan. At Cal the door is wide open for PG play. He chose a school with a top rated PG in the class ahead of him.


Either that two PG thing will play out or one of them will transfer. Maybe even to Cal in 2023 after Brown graduates? The extra COVID year complicates things, but we look to have a lot of slots open for 2023. We may even have a new coach.
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In reply to BC Calfan • 11:17a, 11/12/21
BC Calfan said:
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
I think we have not seen the real Jalen Celestine yet. But Newell seems like he should have gotten more attention and I can't figure out why he didn't.
Would have been quite a good 22 class had we landed Aidan Mahaney. Btw, sorry I'm late to the ballgame on this one, but why did Aidan commit when the top international prospect (Sarunas Marciulionis' son), who also happens to be a PG, is going to St. Mary's?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31647018/augustus-marciulionis-top-international-basektball-prospect-commits-saint-marys
I brought up the same issue and was told that SMC plays a lot of 2 PG offense. But IMO, that's another fail on our recruitment of Aidan. At Cal the door is wide open for PG play. He chose a school with a top rated PG in the class ahead of him.
Let me guess, Fox is so principled he did not bring it up because he thinks it's negative recruiting. We have the most principled coach in D1. At least we have that!
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In reply to HoopDreams • 1:59p, 11/12/21
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
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In reply to concernedparent • 3:06p, 11/12/21
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
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In reply to concernedparent • 4:35p, 11/12/21
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concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.


He missed his senior season due to covid and has only been at IMG for 2 games. He transferred there for post grad.
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In reply to MoragaBear • 4:37p, 11/12/21
MoragaBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.


He missed his senior season due to covid and has only been at IMG for 2 games. He transferred there for post grad.
Thanks for this. I knew there had to be a story. A tall athletic swingman who can shoot (maybe) is gold. He may be a hidden gem.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 4:50p, 11/12/21
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
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In reply to sluggo • 6:08p, 11/12/21
sluggo said:
MoragaBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.


He missed his senior season due to covid and has only been at IMG for 2 games. He transferred there for post grad.
Thanks for this. I knew there had to be a story. A tall athletic swingman who can shoot (maybe) is gold. He may be a hidden gem.
Anyone with that kind of wingspan has upside (and side to side lol).
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In reply to sluggo • 6:11p, 11/12/21
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 6:30p, 11/12/21
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KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
Bowser was the highest rated at 4 stars followed by Roberson, Anyanwu, Alajiki, Celestine and Newell. Okafor's not rated because he's a foreign player.
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In reply to MoragaBear • 9:59p, 11/12/21
MoragaBear said:
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
Bowser was the highest rated at 4 stars followed by Roberson, Anyanwu, Alajiki, Celestine and Newell. Okafor's not rated because he's a foreign player.
Thanks MB. You think MD Okafor is the most talented guy Fox has brought in?
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 10:12p, 11/12/21
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If his performance in the U16 competition is any indication, he may be. I liked what Celestine showed in his limited time last season, too. Would like to see him fully healthy.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 7:32a, 11/13/21
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
No, most of the recruits are not pac 12 level and the team has the least talent in the conference. I am hopeful about Newell but very pessimistic about the previous two classes, Celestine excepted if he can heal.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 8:53a, 11/13/21
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
Trouble is they aren't really hidden gems until they end up being a better than average D1 player. So it really hasn't happened yet.
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In reply to RedlessWardrobe • 2:39a, 11/14/21
RedlessWardrobe said:
KoreAmBear said:
sluggo said:
KoreAmBear said:
concernedparent said:
HoopDreams said:
looks like the best recruit we've signed in two classes
How? Unrated with no P5 D1 offers. It's not like no one has seen him play either. He's at one of the premier athletic development incubators where his entire team is probably getting D1 attention. Not to say he's not going to be a good player--but we're putting our faith in Fox's scouting and talent development abilities with Newell.
I think ND Okafor actually is the highest rated Fox recruit he's landed thus far. True?
I think he was actually unrated due to his strange path (Ireland to NBA Latin America or whatever it is). Whatever the ratings, I think Celestine was his most advanced recruit, but injuries have been a problem.
I thought Bowser was higher rated. I do think Celestine so far looks like a Pac-12 starter.

Seems like Fox and Co. have at least found their recruiting niche in picking up some "hidden gem" types like Sam, Obinna, Newell and Okafor. Sam and Obinna both look like they need polish, but they don't look extremely raw either.
Trouble is they aren't really hidden gems until they end up being a better than average D1 player. So it really hasn't happened yet.


Yeah, "hidden Gem" for us is Celestine, PAC-12 level player. Not necessarily "future all-PAC-12 player" just someone who can play at this level.
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In reply to sluggo • 9:29p, 11/16/21
I don't know what recruiting interest Grant attracted out of Whitney Young HS, but it looks like Grant went to OMG Academy, an athletic finishing school, where he could upgrade his game against top competition. Grant's ability was already evident at Whitney Young, but the skills he displays on his IMG video show a stronger all-around game with refined skills. He has a soft accurate perimeter jumper, he can get to the hoop and finish off the bounce, including along the baseline. At 6'8" Nowell possesses a great wingspan that makes him an effective rim protector and rebounder. He runs the floor easily and displays a good hoops IQ. No doubt, Nowell and Okafor will be transformative players for the Bears.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 9:33p, 11/16/21
Maybe Aiden is reconsidering?
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In reply to puget sound cal fan • 9:39p, 11/16/21
puget sound cal fan said:
Maybe Aiden is reconsidering?


Most of our would be seniors have fled the program so unless someone unexpected leaves, I'm not sure we have a scholarship for next year. But we will have a boat full the following year when Fox's first class graduates, so maybe he comes via the Transfer Portal?
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In reply to sluggo • 9:43p, 11/16/21
Nowell didn't get AAU and tournament exposure? Hard to believe. He reportedly had a 3.0 GPA at Whitney Young. I guess the important thing is Grant is a Bear now,.
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In reply to puget sound cal fan • 10:30p, 11/16/21
puget sound cal fan said:
Nowell didn't get AAU and tournament exposure? Hard to believe. He reportedly had a 3.0 GPA at Whitney Young. I guess the important thing is Grant is a Bear now,.


It is strange. Chicago and Whitney Young are well in the radar. Schools all through the Big Ten/Midwest scout Chicago well. But kudos to Fox, Newell looks like a player, there was no indication before signing, excited to see him in Blue and Gold!
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In reply to calumnus • 9:15a, 11/17/21
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calumnus said:
puget sound cal fan said:
Nowell didn't get AAU and tournament exposure? Hard to believe. He reportedly had a 3.0 GPA at Whitney Young. I guess the important thing is Grant is a Bear now,.


It is strange. Chicago and Whitney Young are well in the radar. Schools all through the Big Ten/Midwest scout Chicago well. But kudos to Fox, Newell looks like a player, there was no indication before signing, excited to see him in Blue and Gold!

As his coach noted in the story, he missed his senior year due to covid.
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In reply to MoragaBear • 12:45p, 11/17/21
MoragaBear said:
calumnus said:
puget sound cal fan said:
Nowell didn't get AAU and tournament exposure? Hard to believe. He reportedly had a 3.0 GPA at Whitney Young. I guess the important thing is Grant is a Bear now,.


It is strange. Chicago and Whitney Young are well in the radar. Schools all through the Big Ten/Midwest scout Chicago well. But kudos to Fox, Newell looks like a player, there was no indication before signing, excited to see him in Blue and Gold!

As his coach noted in the story, he missed his senior year due to covid.


People knew who he was and were recruiting him as a junior though, right? But, yeah, I could see how that could result in him slipping through the cracks and Cal being his only P5 offer. Kudos to Fox, he looks like a great find. We desperately needed shooters and finding one who is 6'8" and athletic with a good handle and court sense? Nice.

Good endorsement of coach Francis as a recruiter too.
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In reply to calumnus • 10:19p, 11/17/21
...and wasn't Francis the lead on Okafor, too?
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In reply to puget sound cal fan • 11:27p, 11/17/21
puget sound cal fan said:
...and wasn't Francis the lead on Okafor, too?


Don't know but Sam Alajiki gets a major assist.
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