Who you got? Can be male or female. Bonus points for stats, videos and/or photos.
BearGreg said:
Who you got? Can be male or female. Bonus points for stats, videos and/or photos.
Gary Franklin Jr.!Bear8995 said:
Brandon Chauca
Signed, Brandon Chauca
HoopDreams said:
Crabbe would have been if he didn't have Stanford thugs grabbing him all the time (even when he didn't have the ball)
Right guys. I would go with Gray-Lawson for the women.OneKeg said:
Echoing others, Lamond Murray, Ed Gray and Jerome Randle for the men. Honorable mention to Theo Robertson. Critchfield was before my time so I'll take people's word for it.
Don't follow the women as much but honestly, it feels like Cal hasn't had a truly deadly pure shooter in WBB forever.
Colleen Galloway.OneKeg said:
Echoing others, Lamond Murray, Ed Gray and Jerome Randle for the men. Honorable mention to Theo Robertson. Critchfield was before my time so I'll take people's word for it.
Don't follow the women as much but honestly, it feels like Cal hasn't had a truly deadly pure shooter in WBB forever.
In my time, which is much shorter than many here, I agree it's Randle. FG% overall tells me nothing. 3pt % is a good indicator, but not all 3-pointers are created equal. Most of Theo's were open, catch-and-shoot plays from the short corner. Randle often created for himself or took shots off the dribble while contests, often from very deep.BeachedBear said:
A few factors go into this (just looking at MBB - haven't attended enough women's games):
Stats: Best career FG%: 66.2%McNamara had great stats, but a lot of that was from close range. Hendrick went 10 for 10 against USF and many of those were beautiful 12-15 footers. best career 3P%: 44.%Theo, season 3P%: 50% Billy Dreher. Best career FT%: 88.1% Jerome Randle. Season FT%:93.3 Jerome Randle.
Style (It just looks good): I missed Critchfield, but talking to others who watched him as well as some others, they put him in the "arguably the best" category. From my experience, I would include Randle, Dreher, Murray as well. Theo looked pretty good too, but seemed slow (probably because of his long arms). Overall, I'd say Murray looked the best.
Clutch: Under pressure. I remember a game in early 80's when Dave Butler won us a game going something like 8 for 8 from the line in the last minute or so. Great day, but I wouldn't call him a great shooter. Recently, Mathews made some clutch threes. I'd call shooting his best trait, but he's NOT a great pure shooter. Randle made many clutch shots (sometimes at the expense of an easier shot), but they went in. He did it on a regular basis as well. Kidd was pretty clutch, but had an ugly shot in college.
Personally, I'd go with Jerome Randle. He was undersized and relied on his shot and speed more than anyone. He is at or near the top in all of my categories (Stats, Style, Clutch). He also had a wider array of shots than any other player mentioned. Layups against taller players, DEEP range, a beautiful floater, BEST Free Throws in history, excellent pull-up mid range game.
Others on my list would include Murray, Critchfield, Dreher, Theo, Ed Gray, Richard Midgley, Ryan Anderson, Michael Chavez, Allen Crabbe
I thought of her for the women although I only saw her a couple of times on TV. IMHO, it's Randle for the men and not really close. Critchfield was also very good. The best from my era (mid '50's) was Larry Friend.ncbears said:
For the women:
Vukodinivic - I don't really recall how pure a shooter she was. My memory may have inflated her shot.
Sam Potter: Now there's a name from the past! Yes, good shooter, as a 6-7 small forward. Some Sam stories...joe amos yaks said:
Sam Potter went 50% FG and 90% FTs before transferring to ORu.
Maybe Sam and GFranklin, Jr should do lunch.
StrawberryCanyon said:Gary Franklin Jr.!Bear8995 said:
Brandon Chauca
Signed, Brandon Chauca
Ok, real answer: Lamond Murray
He was not underrated in the pros. Underachieving more like it.BearGoggles said:
Lamond Murray, He was tremendously underrated, both in college and the pros.
No. According to those stats, it's Theo.oskidunker said:
So its Jordan Matthews.
So here's my favorite Sam Potter story - well actually maybe it's a Bill Walton story. Recently retired Bill got a gig on a Bear game, and then as always he was unprepared. After Sam hit three or four from the conner, he was raging about how far over his head he was, he can't do that, it's the best five minutes of his life, .... The play by play guy then said, "well he was city player of the year". Bill quickly yelled "yeah, but what city". The play by play guy deadpanned "Los Angeles".Big C said:Sam Potter: Now there's a name from the past! Yes, good shooter, as a 6-7 small forward. Some Sam stories...joe amos yaks said:
Sam Potter went 50% FG and 90% FTs before transferring to ORu.
Maybe Sam and GFranklin, Jr should do lunch.
His senior year in HS, he led the state (CA) in scoring. Before his first game at Cal, an African American sports writer set up an appointment to interview him. When they met, said writer was surprised to find out that Potter was white and supposedly left w/o the interview.
I've attended maybe 2-3 Cal Basketball practices in my life. In one of them, right in the middle, Kuchen kicked Potter out of the practice. As I was way up in the stands, I couldn't tell what it was for, maybe loafing or mouthing off. Thus, I wasn't surprised when Potter transferred. Too bad, because those teams in the early-mid '80s needed all the talent they could get. I wanna say Potter averaged something like 15-18 ppg his senior year at Oral Roberts.
Gee, and we had been getting along so well lately, too. Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Why take an interesting Cal thread like this and turn it into a personal attack on me, when I haven't yet posted an opinion on this great topic? The opinions here have been so interesting, and brought back memories of so many great Cal players. But you couldn't resist the temptation to take a swipe at me. How petty. How childish.UrsaMajor said:
SFCity Bear.
He never actually made the team, but by his own admission, he was the greatest pure shooter of all time.
Thanks and you may have jogged my memory... it could be that I was thinking "leading scoring in Cali", when Potter's senior honor was actually "LA city player of the year". I may have confused it with when KJ was "leading scorer in Cali" (or maybe SP was both).RonO said:So here's my favorite Sam Potter story - well actually maybe it's a Bill Walton story. Recently retired Bill got a gig on a Bear game, and then as always he was unprepared. After Sam hit three or four from the conner, he was raging about how far over his head he was, he can't do that, it's the best five minutes of his life, .... The play by play guy then said, "well he was city player of the year". Bill quickly yelled "yeah, but what city". The play by play guy deadpanned "Los Angeles".Big C said:Sam Potter: Now there's a name from the past! Yes, good shooter, as a 6-7 small forward. Some Sam stories...joe amos yaks said:
Sam Potter went 50% FG and 90% FTs before transferring to ORu.
Maybe Sam and GFranklin, Jr should do lunch.
His senior year in HS, he led the state (CA) in scoring. Before his first game at Cal, an African American sports writer set up an appointment to interview him. When they met, said writer was surprised to find out that Potter was white and supposedly left w/o the interview.
I've attended maybe 2-3 Cal Basketball practices in my life. In one of them, right in the middle, Kuchen kicked Potter out of the practice. As I was way up in the stands, I couldn't tell what it was for, maybe loafing or mouthing off. Thus, I wasn't surprised when Potter transferred. Too bad, because those teams in the early-mid '80s needed all the talent they could get. I wanna say Potter averaged something like 15-18 ppg his senior year at Oral Roberts.