Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Someone has to step up to help Matt.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
I am thinking that is optimistic but even if we watch Lars get swatted when he can only jump an inch I am going to be happy with solid play to get the ball into the post so he CAN get swatted. A heck of a lot more fun to watch than Paris dribbling aimlessly for 25 seconds before a terrifying and unsuccessful drive to the rim.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
While I completely agree with you I'd be a lot more sympathetic if on the flip side people didn't call others losers based on beating one really bad team that we would expect to beat. So let's have it a little even and not crown the guy for pulling it out against Prairie View and not chop his head off for losing to Duke.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
Seriously, folks.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
No disrespect or comparison meant.....I'm just thinking back wistfully to one of my all-time Bears.......socaltownie said:I am thinking that is optimistic but even if we watch Lars get swatted when he can only jump an inch I am going to be happy with solid play to get the ball into the post so he CAN get swatted. A heck of a lot more fun to watch than Paris dribbling aimlessly for 25 seconds before a terrifying and unsuccessful drive to the rim.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
OB:OaktownBear said:While I completely agree with you I'd be a lot more sympathetic if on the flip side people didn't call others losers based on beating one really bad team that we would expect to beat. So let's have it a little even and not crown the guy for pulling it out against Prairie View and not chop his head off for losing to Duke.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
I would have predicted 4-2 at this point and I don't think there is a single person who thought that Fox was as bad as the worst coach to ever coach at Cal, maybe to ever coach in the conference. I fully expect Fox to develop us into a .500 conference team.
UrsaMajor said:OB:OaktownBear said:While I completely agree with you I'd be a lot more sympathetic if on the flip side people didn't call others losers based on beating one really bad team that we would expect to beat. So let's have it a little even and not crown the guy for pulling it out against Prairie View and not chop his head off for losing to Duke.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
I would have predicted 4-2 at this point and I don't think there is a single person who thought that Fox was as bad as the worst coach to ever coach at Cal, maybe to ever coach in the conference. I fully expect Fox to develop us into a .500 conference team.
I agree we need some evenhandedness, but I'm not sure I understand the sentence about calling others losers. Was that something common here? I may have missed it. My view: Fox is a breath of fresh air because he obviously has a plan and understands basketball. The team looks like it has mostly bought in. Can he move Cal to the next level? No idea. I think that will depend in large measure on his recruiting. We are clearly out-athleted and need some quick, long wings and dominant post players. Time will tell.
You ask that AFTER Cal played number 1 Duke and a Texas team that was ranked in the top 25 AFTER travelling to New York????m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Be still my beating heartOaktownBear said:While I completely agree with you I'd be a lot more sympathetic if on the flip side people didn't call others losers based on beating one really bad team that we would expect to beat. So let's have it a little even and not crown the guy for pulling it out against Prairie View and not chop his head off for losing to Duke.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
I would have predicted 4-2 at this point and I don't think there is a single person who thought that Fox was as bad as the worst coach to ever coach at Cal, maybe to ever coach in the conference. I fully expect Fox to develop us into a .500 conference team.
That's what happens when you put too much effort into writing about the latest conversation with Jim Knowlton and not enough into reading what others write.UrsaMajor said:
I agree we need some evenhandedness, but I'm not sure I understand the sentence about calling others losers.
m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Key barometer for the Cougs is their game against Incarnate Word on Dec. 21st.calumnus said:m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
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KenBurnski said:
Color commentator makes me want to stuff my head inside of a capon.
Got it. Agree fully.OaktownBear said:UrsaMajor said:OB:OaktownBear said:While I completely agree with you I'd be a lot more sympathetic if on the flip side people didn't call others losers based on beating one really bad team that we would expect to beat. So let's have it a little even and not crown the guy for pulling it out against Prairie View and not chop his head off for losing to Duke.UrsaMajor said:Gee. Maybe you think we should hire WJ back. I mean he did win 2 P12 games last year...m2bear said:
Will we win a single PAC 12 game this year ?
Sorry, but I don't share the doom and gloom of this forum. Did anyone seriously believe we were likely to come out of Manhattan with a win? Because we looked poor against #1 Duke and lost to #22 Texas, should not be a surprise. Keep in mind we played them even in the 1st half and were within striking distance for much of the 2nd half. This team is a work in progress. Defense was decent against Texas; offense was clearly subpar, but shooting 1-8 from 3 has to be an anomaly. We aren't going to win the P12 championship; we're highly unlikely to manage 9-9 in the P12, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were .500 overall and win 6-8 P12 games. As SCT points out, we're playing fundamental basketball; we just lack the athletes to move to the next stage. Let's let the season play out before declaring it a bust.
I would have predicted 4-2 at this point and I don't think there is a single person who thought that Fox was as bad as the worst coach to ever coach at Cal, maybe to ever coach in the conference. I fully expect Fox to develop us into a .500 conference team.
I agree we need some evenhandedness, but I'm not sure I understand the sentence about calling others losers. Was that something common here? I may have missed it. My view: Fox is a breath of fresh air because he obviously has a plan and understands basketball. The team looks like it has mostly bought in. Can he move Cal to the next level? No idea. I think that will depend in large measure on his recruiting. We are clearly out-athleted and need some quick, long wings and dominant post players. Time will tell.
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I think that was the 9th minute of the Duke Game. In the Texas game we cut it to 9 with a 5 minutes to go. Then it happened again.bearister said:
This game turned South in a blink.
