19-9 5 minutes left 1st half

Candy asses going down.

And Maples is EMPTY!!! If there are 500 there, I would be very surprised.

24-18 USF at 1/2

29-18

42-34 at 11 minute mark

Looking like Furd's going to get it done. Impressive 2nd half, especially with their stud Freshman PG Terry out.

furd won 64-56 crap

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And Maples is EMPTY!!! If there are 500 there, I would be very surprised.

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This a result of a decade of incompetence and neglect of their program. It's been a decade since the Lopez Twins (the last time Furd was a consistently good program). The caretakers of that program dismantled the fan base that Monty and co. built (which took 15-20 years of solid to great basketball). Even if Haase is the guy, the fans wont come back overnight.

Unfortunately, these last 2-3 years at Cal have done much damage to everything that Braun/Monty progressively we're attempting to build here.

Braun also built RICE.

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Braun also built RICE.

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Say what you want, but Braun did have early success which led to a hopeful fan base and a Top 5 recruiting class (2003), solid recruiting overall (Randle, PC, and RA in 2006 was probably his best class in terms of performance) , and increased expectations which eventually led to his firing. The odds are against Fox lasting as long as Ben.

Attendance was very good in the late 90's and early 2000's. Especially compared to these past few years. And even with Monty's solid teams, the attendance of the Monty years never really reached that era, when people were excited about Cal hoops.

And tell me also, which coach led Cal to 3 straight Tournament appearances, which hadn't been done since Newell? Not Mike Montgomery.

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

sonofabear51 said:

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furd won 64-56 crap

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Furd guards were just too quick.

tsubamoto2001 said:

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sonofabear51 said:

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And Maples is EMPTY!!! If there are 500 there, I would be very surprised.

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This a result of a decade of incompetence and neglect of their program. It's been a decade since the Lopez Twins (the last time Furd was a consistently good program). The caretakers of that program dismantled the fan base that Monty and co. built (which took 15-20 years of solid to great basketball). Even if Haase is the guy, the fans wont come back overnight.

Unfortunately, these last 2-3 years at Cal have done much damage to everything that Braun/Monty progressively we're attempting to build here.

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Well, uh... it might also have to do with the fact that school is out and students have gone home for holidays. But you've never been one to let facts get in the way of a good rant, so carry on!

Students are a small proportion of the fans, especially atHaas. Where are the season ticket holders?

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Students are a small proportion of the fans, especially atHaas. Where are the season ticket holders?

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Doh!

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something

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bearister deserves 10+ STARS for this one

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/donna-rice-speaks-affair-30-years-59311437

OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

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Is amazing how much that was an issue back then. Gosh we live in a different time (though I do wonder absent a photo and absent the boat being named "Monkey Business" if he could have survived. ;-)

OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

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No that's Gary Shandling. :P

OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

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No - he and his wife were wealthy globetrotting amateur detectives in the early '80s.

OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

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Didn't Gary's brother Jim Ray play for the Giants back in the day? Or am I misremembering?

82gradDLSdad said:

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Didn't Gary's brother Jim Ray play for the Giants back in the day? Or am I misremembering?

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No, you are absolutely correct....form 1963-1972

He was Gary's younger brother.

bearister said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Hey, Hart could join the field and run again. He's old enough, and what was serious baggage in 1988, might not even make headlines today.

Hate to say it, but ex-Cal guy Haase may have a decent team this year.

OaktownBear said:

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Braun also built RICE.

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Gary Hart was a big supporter.

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Massive props for the extremely obscure reference that I am probably one of the few who understood. Half the board probably wants to know who Gary Hart is. I think he was an afternoon talk show host or something.

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I don't understand how Condoleeza Rice factors into any of this monkey business.

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bGoo

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I don't understand how Condoleeza Rice factors into any of this monkey business.

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Good one!

*fits the timeline
*occupationally appropriate
*Furdie (before this thread was.... JMHO.... brilliantly diverted, it was about USF leading Furid in BB)