Inspired by Troll on you Bears on the Football Board, I thought I would start a similar thread here. TOUB did all the work for you by listing the candidate pool. All I'm going to do for you is give you the link where all the rosters can be found: https://calbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2010-11

Here is my All Decade First Team (I will pass on assembling a Second Team):

Point Guard: Ty Wallace
Two Guard: Matt Bradley
Center: Ivan Rabb
Power Forward Jaylen Brown
Small Forward: Allen Crabbe

*You can argue that Raab and Crabbe are playing out of their natural positions and that Ty didn't play a lot of PG, but this is my fantasy so I say they'll do just fine.

bearister said:

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Inspired by Troll on you Bears on the Football Board, I thought I would start a similar thread here. TOUB did all the work for you by listing the candidate pool. All I'm going to do for you is give you the link where all the rosters can be found: https://calbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2010-11

Here is my All Decade First Team (I will pass on assembling a Second Team):

Point Guard: Ty Wallace
Two Guard: Matt Bradley
Center: Ivan Rabb
Power Forward Jaylen Brown
Small Forward: Allen Crabbe

*You can argue that Raab and Crabbe are playing out of their natural positions and that Ty didn't play a lot of PG, but this is my fantasy so I say they'll do just fine.

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Mine:

PG: Is Ty really our best PG in the 2010s? Actually no it would be Justin Cobbs.
2: Allen Crabbe (also considered -- Mathews)
3: Jaylen Brown (also considered Theo)
4: Harper Kamp
5: Ivan Rabb

I think Theo technically played 2009-2010 so if he counts, he's got to get on somehow. I'd say he's on the 5 best roster (this is not just talent, but IQ and duration). Ty would make top 6-7 in my opinion.

Which season counts as the first in the decade? If a guy finishes his Cal career in 2010 (or 2011), do we get to consider his contributions from the previous decade? Now I gotta go back and remind myself who played when (actually, that's part of the fun of it, I know)...

You guys forgetting about Jorge?

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Which season counts as the first in the decade? If a guy finishes his Cal career in 2010 (or 2011), do we get to considder his contributions from the previous decade? Now I gotta go back and remind myself who played when (actually, that' part of the fun of it, I know)...

You guys forgetting about Jorge?

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No, I simply ducked and covered under a desk waiting for the avalanche of STRONG Jorge love to come crashing down on me. Oh, and you exceeded your quota of questions so I don't have to answer any of them....but I consider the decade anyone that laced them up from Fall 2010 through Fall 2019, so Theo, one of my favorites, DON'T SURF!

KAB, I actually preferred J Cobbs as a player and was aggravated by Ty frequently, so you have convinced me. But I have to have me some Matt Bradley on the court and no one talks me out of that (FYI Kamp was one of the players under my consideration).

1st Team
PG: Ty
G: Jorge
W: Crabb
F: Brown
F: Ivan

2nd Team
PG: Cobbs
G: Bradley
W: Bird
F: Soloman
C: Kravish

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KAB, I actually preferred J Cobbs as a player and was aggravated by Ty frequently, so you have convinced me. But I have to have me some Matt Bradley on the court and no one talks me out of that (FYI Kamp was one of the players under my consideration).

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Kamp operated the high low game perfectly under Monty. Our half-court offense was just poetry. I remember Sean Miller saying that basically it was unstoppable.

PG: Cobb
G: Jorge
W: Crabb
F: Brown
F: Ivan

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Decade's Most Inspirational Player (no debate):
Gary Franklin

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Honorable mention: Brandon Chauca

He has achieved great personal success as a pro in the Philipines and, above all, has
kept the "team-first" attitude for which he was known at CAL.

1st Team --

• PG: Cobbs
• G: Gutierrez
• F/W: Crabbe
• F: Brown
• F: Rabb

2nd Team --

• PG: Wallace
• G: Bradley
• F: Kamp
• F: Solomon
• C: Kravish

Special mention --

• C: tThurmanator
• PG: Moore

Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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By definition, but not by convention. Have fun discussing all this best-of-the-decade stuff in a year, with your fellow alums who majored in Counting.

JimSox said:

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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I not only pulled a muscle trying to follow this but it also traumatized me by invalidating my premise. The only remedy is for me to delete my post and impose a 1 year BI ban on myself.

MSaviolives said:

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PG: Cobb
G: Jorge
W: Crabb
F: Brown
F: Ivan

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This is the one!

I agree!!!

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MSaviolives said:

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PG: Cobb
G: Jorge
W: Crabb
F: Brown
F: Ivan

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This is the one!

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Outside shooting would be a little compromised with that lineup lol. Cobbs, Jorge and Brown were not great outside shooters in college. Cobbs pretty good mid-range. Need a Mathews or Theo in there to knock down open Js. Yah I know it's just a fantasy lineup. Fun to talk about.

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PG: Cobb
G: Jorge
W: Crabb
F: Brown
F: Ivan

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Yes this. Cobbs was a stud, one my all time favs.

I'm curious why no one had Randle as the point guard. I'd rather have him over Cobbs or Wallace any day. Cobbs and Wallace both really steady over all the years of their carreers, but Randle improved so much year to year, and his last year was a dream year, for me anyway. Not as good a defender as Cobbs, but still gets my vote.

PG: Randle
SG: Jorge
SF: Crabbe
PF: Kamp
C: Rabb

2nd Team

PG: Cobbs
SG: Mathews. ()Bradley may become a star. Mullins pretty good.)
SF: Theo
PF: Kravish
C: Solomon as a senior, or Boykin.

bearister said:

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JimSox said:

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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I not only pulled a muscle trying to follow this but it also traumatized me by invalidating my premise. The only remedy is for me to delete my post and impose a 1 year BI ban on myself.

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Don't do it. It's your thread. You can choose whatever years you like to make up your decade. I like including 2010, because we haven't won any title as a team since then, and it includes a lot of good players. The last two years of the decade gave us very few good players and no good teams.

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I'm curious why no one had Randle as the point guard. I'd rather have him over Cobbs or Wallace any day. Cobbs and Wallace both really steady over all the years of their carreers, but Randle improved so much year to year, and his last year was a dream year, for me anyway. Not as good a defender as Cobbs, but still gets my vote.

PG: Randle
SG: Jorge
SF: Crabbe
PF: Kamp
C: Rabb

2nd Team

PG: Cobbs
SG: Mathews. ()Bradley may become a star. Mullins pretty good.)
SF: Theo
PF: Kravish
C: Solomon as a senior, or Boykin.

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I forget, what was Randle's last year? His senior year (Conference POY) definitely warrants him being on this list.

If Randle goes on and people are talking about Theo, a guy from the same class by the name of Patrick Christopher merits consideration. Dude was All-Conference his junior and senior years.

Big C said:

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SFCityBear said:

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I'm curious why no one had Randle as the point guard. I'd rather have him over Cobbs or Wallace any day. Cobbs and Wallace both really steady over all the years of their carreers, but Randle improved so much year to year, and his last year was a dream year, for me anyway. Not as good a defender as Cobbs, but still gets my vote.

PG: Randle
SG: Jorge
SF: Crabbe
PF: Kamp
C: Rabb

2nd Team

PG: Cobbs
SG: Mathews. ()Bradley may become a star. Mullins pretty good.)
SF: Theo
PF: Kravish
C: Solomon as a senior, or Boykin.

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I forget, what was Randle's last year? His senior year (Conference POY) definitely warrants him being on this list.

If Randle goes on and people are talking about Theo, a guy from the same class by the name of Patrick Christopher merits consideration. Dude was All-Conference his junior and senior years.

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

cal83dls79 said:

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Big C said:

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SFCityBear said:

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I'm curious why no one had Randle as the point guard. I'd rather have him over Cobbs or Wallace any day. Cobbs and Wallace both really steady over all the years of their carreers, but Randle improved so much year to year, and his last year was a dream year, for me anyway. Not as good a defender as Cobbs, but still gets my vote.

PG: Randle
SG: Jorge
SF: Crabbe
PF: Kamp
C: Rabb

2nd Team

PG: Cobbs
SG: Mathews. ()Bradley may become a star. Mullins pretty good.)
SF: Theo
PF: Kravish
C: Solomon as a senior, or Boykin.

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I forget, what was Randle's last year? His senior year (Conference POY) definitely warrants him being on this list.

If Randle goes on and people are talking about Theo, a guy from the same class by the name of Patrick Christopher merits consideration. Dude was All-Conference his junior and senior years.

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

The candidates are definitely guard-heavy:

Guards: Randle, Cobbs, Wallace, Jorge, Christopher (that's not in any order)

2/3: Crabbe, Theo, Jaylen Brown

Bigs: Rabb, Boykin, Kamp, Kravish, Solomon

Geez, can you imagine if we could take one each from the above categories and have them on the current team?

Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

Big C said:

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SFCityBear said:

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I'm curious why no one had Randle as the point guard. I'd rather have him over Cobbs or Wallace any day. Cobbs and Wallace both really steady over all the years of their carreers, but Randle improved so much year to year, and his last year was a dream year, for me anyway. Not as good a defender as Cobbs, but still gets my vote.

PG: Randle
SG: Jorge
SF: Crabbe
PF: Kamp
C: Rabb

2nd Team

PG: Cobbs
SG: Mathews. ()Bradley may become a star. Mullins pretty good.)
SF: Theo
PF: Kravish
C: Solomon as a senior, or Boykin.

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I forget, what was Randle's last year? His senior year (Conference POY) definitely warrants him being on this list.

If Randle goes on and people are talking about Theo, a guy from the same class by the name of Patrick Christopher merits consideration. Dude was All-Conference his junior and senior years.

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PG Randles's last season was 2010 when he was the PAC10's PoY.
He should have been included on my list.
My error.
Add Randle to the 2nd team, leave PG Cobbs at 1st team, and move Wallace to other . . .

JimSox said:

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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Yes, but there are many references to the '70s, '80s, '90s, as "decades, and in these instances, isn't the first year of the decade also the year with the zero in it? 1970 is the first year of the 1970s, 1980 the first year of the 1980s, and 1990 the first year of the 1990s.

Basketball complicates things, because each season, our games are scheduled for Fall, Winter of one year and, and the same Winter and Spring of the following year. The basketball season of 2009-2010 is what it is called in the record books, but in everyday conversation, the season is usually referred to as the 2010 season.

Based on all this, I'd say the 2009-2010 season is the first year of the 2010s decade, and that basketball decade ended in Spring 2019.

bearup said:

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Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

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Without looking at the stats, I bet Randle MADE a fair amount more 3 pt shots his senior year, even at that lower (but still good) percentage.

The guy would be able to earn a few minutes of playing time if he were on this year's team, that's for sure! (or last year's, or the year before that, or...)

bearup said:

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Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

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It is true that his 3PT% dropped off from his junior to senior years, but he was shooting some more threes as a senior, And I don't have any proof, but my impression was that he had extended his range a noticeable amount on his threes. I think he was being guarded closer, forcing him to shoot from farther out, and do a big fadeaway at the end of the shot, often ending up on his butt after the shot. That might account for the drop in %. His FT% went way up to 93% from 86% the year before.

SFCityBear said:

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bearup said:

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Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

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It is true that his 3PT% dropped off from his junior to senior years, but he was shooting some more threes as a senior, And I don't have any proof, but my impression was that he had extended his range a noticeable amount on his threes. I think he was being guarded closer, forcing him to shoot from farther out, and do a big fadeaway at the end of the shot, often ending up on his butt after the shot. That might account for the drop in %. His FT% went way up to 93% from 86% the year before.

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agree, and he also was a master at driving and finishing

unlimited range
unstoppable tear drop

best handle I've seen in college
some of the most fantastic finishes I've seen at cal

SFCityBear said:

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JimSox said:

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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Yes, but there are many references to the '70s, '80s, '90s, as "decades, and in these instances, isn't the first year of the decade also the year with the zero in it? 1970 is the first year of the 1970s, 1980 the first year of the 1980s, and 1990 the first year of the 1990s.

Basketball complicates things, because each season, our games are scheduled for Fall, Winter of one year and, and the same Winter and Spring of the following year. The basketball season of 2009-2010 is what it is called in the record books, but in everyday conversation, the season is usually referred to as the 2010 season.

Based on all this, I'd say the 2009-2010 season is the first year of the 2010s decade, and that basketball decade ended in Spring 2019.

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If you include 09-10 as the first year of the decade then you cannot include 19-20 or you would have 11 seasons per decade.

HoopDreams said:

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SFCityBear said:

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bearup said:

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Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

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It is true that his 3PT% dropped off from his junior to senior years, but he was shooting some more threes as a senior, And I don't have any proof, but my impression was that he had extended his range a noticeable amount on his threes. I think he was being guarded closer, forcing him to shoot from farther out, and do a big fadeaway at the end of the shot, often ending up on his butt after the shot. That might account for the drop in %. His FT% went way up to 93% from 86% the year before.

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agree, and he also was a master at driving and finishing

unlimited range
unstoppable tear drop

best handle I've seen in college

some of the most fantastic finishes I've seen at cal

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Wow, better handle than Kidd and Bibby and Nash? IDTS

Duplicate post

Civil Bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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SFCityBear said:

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bearup said:

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Big C said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oh yeah, if Bulldog fits in the decade then by all means 1st team, I'd bump Cobb's to team 2

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Okay, I just did my homework: The 2009-2010 season was the senior year of Randle, Christopher and Theo (also Boykin). The question then becomes, how much do they get "dinged" for only playing 2/3 of one season in this decade? Personal preference, I would imagine, but note that a Jaylen Brown only plays one season in this decade and Ivan Rabb only plays two.

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Do we need an official ruling on Randle?

If not, I'll go with him over anybody else at PG. One of my favorite players ever. He had a slight drop-off in some areas between his junior and senior years. For example,
his 3PT% dropped from 46.3 % to 40.4%.

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It is true that his 3PT% dropped off from his junior to senior years, but he was shooting some more threes as a senior, And I don't have any proof, but my impression was that he had extended his range a noticeable amount on his threes. I think he was being guarded closer, forcing him to shoot from farther out, and do a big fadeaway at the end of the shot, often ending up on his butt after the shot. That might account for the drop in %. His FT% went way up to 93% from 86% the year before.

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agree, and he also was a master at driving and finishing

unlimited range
unstoppable tear drop

best handle I've seen in college

some of the most fantastic finishes I've seen at cal

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Wow, better handle than Kidd and Bibby and Nash? IDTS

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good point

SFCityBear said:

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JimSox said:

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Lots of end of decade stuff being written these days. I see the Chronicle is running a series on the 10 most memorable moments of the decade in Bay Area sports. But at the risk of reviving an old and by now tedious argument, the decade ain't over 'til the end of next year. One is first, right? Kinda by definition. Therefore 2001 was the first year of the previous decade, making 2010 the last year of that decade. Ten being tenth, and 10 years comprising a decade. That makes 2011 the first year of the current decade and 2020, next year, the last. Okay everyone, you can go back to discussing basketball now.

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Yes, but there are many references to the '70s, '80s, '90s, as "decades, and in these instances, isn't the first year of the decade also the year with the zero in it? 1970 is the first year of the 1970s, 1980 the first year of the 1980s, and 1990 the first year of the 1990s.

Basketball complicates things, because each season, our games are scheduled for Fall, Winter of one year and, and the same Winter and Spring of the following year. The basketball season of 2009-2010 is what it is called in the record books, but in everyday conversation, the season is usually referred to as the 2010 season.

Based on all this, I'd say the 2009-2010 season is the first year of the 2010s decade, and that basketball decade ended in Spring 2019.

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Well, just technically speaking, no. The first year of the Common Era was not the year zero. There was no year zero. The first year of the Common Era was the year one. The year before that was the year one Before the Common Era. (Or if you prefer, the year one BC was followed immediately by the year one AD. There was no year zero in between.) So, follow along now, since One was the first year, 10 was the 10th year and the end of the first decade. Very simple. One is first. Ten is 10th. Also 100 is 100th, the last year of the first century. And 2000 was 2000th, the last year of the second millennium. All this was argued about ad nauseum 20 years ago. Of course my side lost, despite its mathematically indisputable argument, and everybody celebrated the beginning of the new millennium on New Years Eve 1999. A few people noted it 12 months later, but more or less as a cute curiosity. As in hey everyone, the new millennium is actually beginning today, January 1, 2001.
Yet it is still true. The first year of the '70s was 1971, not 1970. Strange but true. 1970 was actually the last year of the '60's. (I told you this was tedious.)
So go ahead and pick your all decade team. But pick it again after the last year of the '10's, 2020. See you next year!