we are 11 point underdogs. the over/under is 129. we will need some lock.

typo luck not lock.

calgo430 said:

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typo luck not lock.

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Lock would also be accepted, as in lock down defense - not to be confused with this guy:

dimitrig said:

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calgo430 said:

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typo luck not lock.

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Lock would also be accepted, as in lock down defense - not to be confused with this guy:

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+1000

That's a bit of a stretch.....but funny.

ESPN has it downgraded to 10.5




*CJ Elleby had 27 and 12 Reb vs ASU in a W. His step back trey with 4 seconds left clinched it. Similar numbers from him defeated O.

If HoopDreams sees this or anyone else wants to give it a try: How does a 6'6 guard put up elite Big Man rebound numbers (14 in O game)? All I can think of is quickness, jumping ability and desire.

Energy. Getting to the right place at the right time.

bearister said:

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ESPN has it downgraded to 10.5




*CJ Elleby had 27 and 12 Reb vs ASU in a W. His step back trey with 4 seconds left clinched it. Similar numbers from him defeated O.

If HoopDreams sees this or anyone else wants to give it a try: How does a 6'6 guard put up elite Big Man rebound numbers (14 in O game)? All I can think of is quickness, jumping ability and desire.

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I only caught a small part of the game but ASU missed 15 three pointers and Elleby came down with several even in the small stretch that I watched. Missed 3s have longer carems which benefits wings like CJ more than posts. That said, he's always been a great rebounder for his size. I think he has good, not great, athleticism but he's got a great motor and he's long, which really helps on the boards. Plus, he's always been an all-around instinctive player.

I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but was there ever a chance that we could have used the connection through his dad to get him to consider Cal? It's not like Wazzu was a significantly better program than Cal, even in the Wyking years. I'm just surprised that there was little to no mention of him as a recruit given his dad played at Cal.

bearister said:

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ESPN has it downgraded to 10.5




*CJ Elleby had 27 and 12 Reb vs ASU in a W. His step back trey with 4 seconds left clinched it. Similar numbers from him defeated O.

If HoopDreams sees this or anyone else wants to give it a try: How does a 6'6 guard put up elite Big Man rebound numbers (14 in O game)? All I can think of is quickness, jumping ability and desire.

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Sometimes the stats reflect team rebounding scheme vs individual effort. Under Monty, he would have two bigs box out under the rim and Allen Crabbe would pick up loads of uncontested defensive rebounds. Some coaches have their PG get these in order to initiate the offense, others will use their best offensive player (Crabbe) in order to force the opposing key defender to pick up defensive assignment early. Others will use a deep passing big in this regard (Kevin Love and Christian Laettner did this alot).

He did not want to come here

CalLifer said:

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I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but was there ever a chance that we could have used the connection through his dad to get him to consider Cal? It's not like Wazzu was a significantly better program than Cal, even in the Wyking years. I'm just surprised that there was little to no mention of him as a recruit given his dad played at Cal.

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I don't know the inside scoop on his recruitment, but I'd say two things. First; he wasn't highly recruited coming out of HS so his performance at Wazzu caught a lot of people by surprise. His P12 offers were "local" from UW and Wazzu and his only only other offer outside of WA was Pepperdine. So I think a lot of teams simply passed on him (unwisely, obviously, in retrospect).

And second, I'm not so sure Bill's experience at Cal was the best. He was incredibly frustrated with Campaneilli for one thing. And off the court, in the locker room; etc, he was Just kind of a quiet guy who stuck to himself mostly. I can't put myself in his head obviously but from my own experiences with him, I didn't exactly get the impression that he was thrilled with his Cal experience. Perhaps just not the right fit. Good guy though.

Maybe he wanted to play in front of his family like J. Kidd did.

Cleveland's C.J. Elleby is latest in his family to make mark on Seattle basketball scene | The Seattle Times


https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/high-school/clevelands-c-j-elleby-is-latest-in-his-family-to-make-mark-on-seattle-basketball-scene/

CJ Elleby's current season stats are 18.8 points; 7.3 rebounds

Here is my plan for the win: foul out their PG