Women's Swim Recruiting: Class of 2016

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tedbear
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Hey Everyone! I just thought the old recruiting thread was getting a little cumbersome and messy, so I'm dedicating a new thread for our 2016 recruits. The following categories are just my opinion and not based on anything but intuition. Overall, I feel the talent level isn't as high as last year, and no one should be expecting another Dream Team like 2015, but at the same time, there are several talented swimmers at the top that we need to get.


[U]The Must Gets[/U]
Katie Drabot - Cedarburg, Wisconsin - 200 IM, 400 IM, and 200 Free
http://fox6now.com/2014/12/03/katie-drabot-is-setting-records-and-swimming-around-the-world/

Claire Adams - Carmel, Indiana - 100 Back, 200 Back, 200 Free



[U]The Wants[/U]
Allie Szekely - Doylestown, Pennsylvania - 200 Breast, 200 Back, 200 IM
http://blip.tv/swimmingworldtv/allie-szekely-6469371

Megan Byrnes - Fairfax, Virginia - 1650 Free, 500 Free


Erin Voss - North Hampton, Massachusetts - 200 Back, 500 Free, 1650 Free



[U]Great Swimmers Who Are Likely Not Coming To Cal.....But I Would Love To Be Wrong[/U]
Becca Mann - Clearwater, Florida - 1650, 500 Free


Beata Nelson - Madison, Wisconsin - 100 Fly, 100 Back, 100 Free


Megan Small - Lineboro, Maryland - 200 IM, 400 IM, 100 Back



[U]The Locals[/U]
Moriah Simonds - Livermore, California - 200 Free, 500 Free, 1650 Free


Maddie Murphy - Orinda, California - 100 Fly, 50 Free, 100 Free


Erika Brown - Cornelius, North Carolina (formerly of Pleasanton, California) - 200 Free, 100 Free, 100 Fly



[U]The Legacies[/U]
Alyssa Marsh - Charlotte, North Carolina - 100 Back, 50 Free, 100 Free
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Courtney Mykkanen - Irvine, California - 100 Back, 200 Back



I'm sure there will be many changes to this list by the time NLI day comes around.:gobears:
BearDevil
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Great list. Thanks, tedbear. Adams would allow Baker to stay in the 100 breast. Drabot could swim 500 free, 200 IM, 400 IM, 200 free, or 200 breast for the Bears. As an aside, one of my nieces lives in Cedarburg. Thank Oski her kids don't have the same accent. Katie makes Bootsma sound like a Valley Girl.

Losing Pelton, Bootsma, Naze, Acker, and Grima. Can probably afford Abbey, Drabot, Adams, and another high end swimmer + a combo of 2 locals and/or legacies.
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Echoing BearDevil's thanks for tedbear's well-crafted [U]2016 Recruits[/U] list!

Liking every name mentioned, now if only Teri could afford them all...

Nice finds on all those videos too :beer:

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I personally might consider adding this swimmer to the "nice to have but not a priority" category:
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[INDENT]Erin Voss - 500 Free, 400 IM (with a bit of further improvement), 1650 Free or 200 Back (unfortunately not a viable double on Day 3 of NCAAs)[/INDENT]
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The following are not multi-event NCAA scorers at this stage of their development, but their specialties may come in useful:
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[INDENT]Lindsey Horejsi - Sprint Breast[/INDENT]

[INDENT]Grace Oglesby - Fly[/INDENT]
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For reference (and a bit of nostalgia) with regards to all of our old comments + debates on the merits of all these prospects, here's that original topic which tedbear had initiated back when targeting the [U]2015 Recruits[/U] (but which blew up to encompass 2016 & 2017 Recruits lol):

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?84251-Women-s-Swim-Recruits
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BearDevil
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There's elite talent at the top of the class and Cal's needs don't correspond with their rivals' needs. Top five recruits will be Ledecky, Abbey, Stanzi, Small, and Mann. Top three are already off the board.

Georgia should end up with the top ranked class since they will have the most $s. They don't have a shot to win it all in 2016, but with the right class they'll be back in the hunt for 2017. They already have Burchill, which may give them an in with Adams. They already have two elite backstrokers (Smoliga and Stewart) but neither have improved. Georgia also has ties to Small. Getting both would be devastating, but probably won't happen. Cal has a better track record with both backstrokers and IMers. Big win for the Bears if they get either Adams or Small. Should be in play for Mann, but could see her at Michigan, ASU, or UVa too.

LSJU needs stroke depth in back and fly. Probably won't add distance to Ledecky. Drabot's likely their top target. An 800 free relay of Manuel, Ledecky, Neal, and Drabot could break Cal's record. Byrnes went to the same high school as Janet Hu and swam at NCAP with Hu and Ledecky. Just don't seeing adding distance over back and fly depth.

Can't see the Bears getting below a top three class and it doesn't really matter as long as Teri fills her needs and neither Georgia nor LSJU runs the table. Pretty good options in distance (Byrnes, Voss, or Mann) and back (Adams or Small). Can't see the Bears getting shut out on needs and hoping other elite talent spreads beyond Georgia and LSJU.
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Sorry to ask in this thread but I didn't know the appropriate place to ask. Does anyone know how I can access the Pac12 Women's Swimming Championship broadcasts again? I had all 3 broadcasts of the P12 and the NCAA championship meets recorded on my DVR but it crashed and so I lost it all. I found the NCAA meet on ESPN3 but I can only find recaps of the P12 championships on the P12 Network. My daughter likes to watch it before her meets. Thanks!
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Maybe go on SwimSwam, or CollegeSwimming.com or Swimming World and get into posts and ask personnel responsible for site content or ask other posters on the boards and you may get the reply you are asking for.

PalyBear;842488853 said:

Sorry to ask in this thread but I didn't know the appropriate place to ask. Does anyone know how I can access the Pac12 Women's Swimming Championship broadcasts again? I had all 3 broadcasts of the P12 and the NCAA championship meets recorded on my DVR but it crashed and so I lost it all. I found the NCAA meet on ESPN3 but I can only find recaps of the P12 championships on the P12 Network. My daughter likes to watch it before her meets. Thanks!
BearDevil
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Looking back at 2012, Bears (Bootsma, Missy) and LSJU (Neal, Ledecky) eventually split high school American Olympians. Pretty good chance that Ledecky and Abbey both make the team. Pretty unlikely that any high schoolers (other than Ledecky) make the team in individual events (top 2), but a few 400 (Abbey, Stanzi) or 800 (Ledecky, Drabot) relay spots (top 6) are up for grabs.
BearDevil
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With Hull on board and Abbey in the pipeline, Drabot becomes an even bigger priority. Not a bad problem, but Bears will have too many 50/100 sprinters (Farida, Amy, Hull, KV) and not enough 100/200 freestylers (Baker, KM). Abbey can stretch out to 200, but would be a shame to pull her out of another relay to swim on the 800 free relay.

Ironically Teri didn't have enough 50/100 sprinters on her most recent teams and had too many 100/200 freestylers (Piehl, Cheng, Acker, Pelton). Needs Drabot and maybe Erika Brown to bracket the pure sprinters and leave Abbey on relays where she can make the most impact. Same logic applies to another backstroker or sprint breaststroker to free up Baker.
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Runge is a pretty decent 200 freestyler
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After reading BD's insightful commentary on the ratio of 50/100 sprinters vs 100/200 freestylers on the team, I started to put together a ranking of the team members in these 3 events for the 2016-2017 season based on currently available data, factoring in the performances of a number of tedbear's prospective 2016 recruits (bolded & [U]underlined[/U] names).

Bit of an academic exercise really since these freestyle races would obviously be off-events for many here, but I thought it might be interesting to see who may have some potential for contributing to the team scoring at both NCAA or Pac-12 level if called upon. Please let me know if there are any omissions or inaccurate data so that they can be corrected and updated, thanks.
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[INDENT][SIZE=5][U][COLOR="#800080"]50 Free[/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/INDENT]
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21.49 Abbey Weitzeil
21.63 Farida Osman
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22.15 Amy Bilquist
22.25 Valerie Hull
22.38 Kristen Vredeveld [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2011 PB = 22.17)[/COLOR]
22.51 [U]Beata Nelson[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]22.62[/U] = Slowest time @ 2015 NCAA B Finals)[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0099cc"]
22.63 Kathleen Baker
22.70 Katie McLaughlin [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
22.70 Jasmine Mau [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
22.75 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
22.76 [U]Alyssa Marsh[/U]
22.95 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
22.97 [U]Claire Adams[/U]
22.97 Cierra Runge [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
23.14 [U]Maddie Murphy[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]23.16[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 Pac-12 Finals)[/COLOR]
23.17 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
23.22 Noemie Thomas
23.44 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
23.52 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]



[INDENT][SIZE=5][U][COLOR="#800080"]100 Free[/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/INDENT]
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46.29 Abbey Weitzeil
47.79 Farida Osman
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48.20 Kathleen Baker
48.32 Katie McLaughlin
48.36 Amy Bilquist
------------------------------- ([U]48.59[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 NCAA B Finals)[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0099cc"]
48.67 Jasmine Mau
48.88 Valerie Hull
48.96 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
49.02 [U]Beata Nelson[/U] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
49.19 [U]Claire Adams[/U] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](has split a 48.10 w/a flying start = 48.60 approx.)[/COLOR]
49.24 Cierra Runge [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
49.25 Kristen Vredeveld [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2011 PB = 48.32)[/COLOR]
49.55 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
49.86 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
50.02 [U]Maddie Murphy[/U]
50.15 [U]Alyssa Marsh[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]50.37[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 Pac-12 Finals)[/COLOR]
50.38 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
50.57 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]


[INDENT][SIZE=5][U][COLOR="#800080"]200 Free[/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/INDENT]
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1:42.73 Cierra Runge
1:43.61 Kathleen Baker
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1:44.28 Abbey Weitzeil
1:44.66 Katie McLaughlin
1:45.03 Amy Bilquist
1:45.09 [U]Claire Adams[/U]
1:45.22 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]1:45.36[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 NCAA B Finals)[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0099cc"]
1:45.48 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
1:46.27 Celina Li [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
1:46.35 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
1:46.47 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
1:47.09 Jasmine Mau
1:47.67 Valerie Hull
1:47.73 [U]Becca Mann[/U]
1:47.87 [U]Erin Voss[/U]
1:47.88 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
1:47.93 [U]Moriah Simonds[/U]
1:48.61 [U]Megan Byrnes[/U]
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tedbear
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UrsusArctosCalifornicus;842493164 said:

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After reading BD's insightful commentary on the ratio of 50/100 sprinters vs 100/200 freestylers on the team, I started to put together a ranking of the team members in these 3 events for the 2016-2017 season based on currently available data, factoring in the performances of a number of tedbear's prospective 2016 recruits (bolded & [U]underlined[/U] names).

Bit of an academic exercise really since these freestyle races would obviously be off-events for many here, but I thought it might be interesting to see who may have some potential for contributing to the team scoring at both NCAA or Pac-12 level if called upon. Please let me know if there are any omissions or inaccurate data so that they can be corrected and updated, thanks.
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21.49 Abbey Weitzeil
21.63 Farida Osman
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22.15 Amy Bilquist
22.25 Valerie Hull
22.38 Kristen Vredeveld [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2011 PB = 22.17)[/COLOR]
22.51 [U]Beata Nelson[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]22.62[/U] = Slowest time @ 2015 NCAA B Finals)[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0099cc"]
22.63 Kathleen Baker
22.70 Katie McLaughlin [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
22.70 Jasmine Mau [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
22.75 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
22.76 [U]Alyssa Marsh[/U]
22.95 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
22.97 [U]Claire Adams[/U]
22.97 Cierra Runge [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
23.14 [U]Maddie Murphy[/U]
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23.17 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
23.22 Noemie Thomas
23.44 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
23.52 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]



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46.29 Abbey Weitzeil
47.79 Farida Osman
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48.20 Kathleen Baker
48.32 Katie McLaughlin
48.36 Amy Bilquist
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48.67 Jasmine Mau
48.88 Valerie Hull
48.96 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
49.02 [U]Beata Nelson[/U] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
49.19 [U]Claire Adams[/U] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](has split a 48.10 w/a flying start = 48.60 approx.)[/COLOR]
49.24 Cierra Runge [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
49.25 Kristen Vredeveld [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2011 PB = 48.32)[/COLOR]
49.55 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
49.86 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
50.02 [U]Maddie Murphy[/U]
50.15 [U]Alyssa Marsh[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]50.37[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 Pac-12 Finals)[/COLOR]
50.38 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
50.57 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]


[INDENT][SIZE=5][U][COLOR="#800080"]200 Free[/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/INDENT]
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1:42.73 Cierra Runge
1:43.61 Kathleen Baker
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1:44.28 Abbey Weitzeil
1:44.66 Katie McLaughlin
1:45.03 Amy Bilquist
1:45.09 [U]Claire Adams[/U]
1:45.22 [U]Katie Drabot[/U]
------------------------------- ([U]1:45.36[/U] = Slowest Prelims time that qualified for 2015 NCAA B Finals)[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0099cc"]
1:45.48 [U]Meghan Small[/U]
1:46.27 Celina Li [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
1:46.35 Jenna Campbell [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2013)[/COLOR]
1:46.47 [U]Erika Brown[/U]
1:47.09 Jasmine Mau
1:47.67 Valerie Hull
1:47.73 [U]Becca Mann[/U]
1:47.87 [U]Erin Voss[/U]
1:47.88 Catherine Ladd [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](2012)[/COLOR]
1:47.93 [U]Moriah Simonds[/U]
1:48.61 [U]Megan Byrnes[/U]
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Good work, UAC. To me, this is another example of how amazing the Dream Team is going to be!
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tedbear;842493227 said:

Good work, UAC. To me, this is another example of how amazing the Dream Team is going to be!


Exactly. Thanks, UAC.

Was looking at the 50/100 and 100/200 splits for relays, but it does play into individual NCAA programs too. All of the Dream Team could swim all five relays for the Bears, so the question is how do you optimize their 4 relays with their individual events.

Adding Hull makes the 2017 200 relay clear (Abbey, Farida, Amy, Hull). Abbey's individual program is clear: 50/200/100. She's Cal's fastest in the 50 and 100, so think she skips the 800. Would save her from an additional 200 swim (timed relays) on a day when she'd have two medley relay swims plus 2 200 frees.

Baker's locked into breast legs on both medleys, the 800, and the 400 relays. Her individual program looks like 200 IM, 100 breast, and 200 back. Katie M will fight Farida for the fly leg on the 200 medley, but swim the fly in the 400 medley, the 800 free, and probably the 400 free. Not sure if she swims the 50 free or 200 IM on Thursday, but safe bet for both flys.

Amy has a lot more range than I thought. 200 free relay for sure. Back legs on both medleys unless Teri adds an elite backstroke (Adams or Small) or a sprint breaststroke who could free up Baker (both individually and medley legs). Amy's program is likely 50, 100 back, and either 100 free or 200 back.

Can see why Teri recruits for relays and versatility. Hull helps in the 200 free and perhaps the 400 free relays. Drabot could save Abbey for more productive relays than the 800 free. Also could swim the 200 IM or 500 free, 200 free, and the 200 breast. 400 IM is a need, but she's more valuable in the 200 and 800 free.

Teri wanted to augment her potential relay options with Abi Speers, Cat Ladd, and Jenna Campbell. Erika Brown could fit that role geared more toward middle distance.
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UrsusArctosCalifornicus;842487580 said:


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Yeah snagging the [U]#1 ranked[/U] Indiana recruit for the 2016 incoming class wouldn't be too shabby I guess... lol

http://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/181667/


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Did Dan Dakich claim Claire Adams was a done deal for Purdue? Heard he also claimed Simone Manuel was turning pro...
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BearDevil;842493966 said:

Did Dan Dakich claim Claire Adams was a done deal for Purdue? Heard he also claimed Simone Manuel was turning pro...


Hahaha! Jaylen = Abbey, Ivan = Kathleen, Tyson = Katie, Amy = Caleb? Dream Team Basketball or Swimming :p :woohoo
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tedbear;842493974 said:


Hahaha! Jaylen = Abbey, Ivan = Kathleen, Tyson = Katie, Amy = Caleb? Dream Team Basketball or Swimming :p :woohoo


[COLOR="#3333ff"][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Hey Dream Team BBall may get so much more public attention around here, but I'm personally even more excited for Dream Team Swimming! :newnana:

Though with some of these rumours swirling around about Katie McLaughlin's deferment (apparently from a source v. close to her), reckon we'll have to wait to see if tedbear's dream class will be split into 2 halves... :bawl:
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BearDevil;842493966 said:


Did Dan Dakich claim Claire Adams was a done deal for Purdue? Heard he also claimed Simone Manuel was turning pro...


:rollinglaugh:
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On a slightly more sobering note though, one of Amy's best friends from Carmel, Alex Clark, did commit to Purdue...so I guess Claire being close to Amy doesn't necessarily close the deal w/Teri...
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Definitely stoked about the promise of Cuonzo's dream class, but people don't seem to realize that Teri's consistently recruited at that level beginning with the current graduating seniors. Pretty remarkable.

Seliskar's brother swims for Purdue, but IU and Notre Dame (Murphy's brother) are better in-state swim options. Think the latter two plus Georgia are potential players for Adams.
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BearDevil;842494097 said:


Seliskar's brother swims for Purdue, but IU and Notre Dame (Murphy's brother) are better in-state swim options. Think the latter two plus Georgia are potential players for Adams.


[COLOR="#3333ff"][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Despite being a diminished threat on paper for this forthcoming season due to some key graduations and UGA's notably subpar recruiting for the incoming class of 2015, Bulldawgs are such a powerhouse swim programme that they are expected to rebound with a vengeance for the 2016 recruiting cycle, with loads of scholly funds at their disposal.

Having already secured a really early verbal from one of the top 2016 recruits, [U]Veronica Burchill[/U] (Claire's teammate from Carmel), Georgia snagging Claire wouldn't do Bears any favours as that potent combo would just reinforce UGA's sprint & middle distance freestyle top-end depth, as well as enabling some serious firepower in the back & fly areas.

[COLOR="#696969"]Claire & Veronica[/COLOR]


Shouldn't discount the Fighting Irish or the Hoosiers either as BD had pointed out... Ray Looze in particular has had great success recruiting top talent such as National Teamer [U]Lilly King[/U] (breast/IM) recently, and has impressive credentials including positions as the Women's Head Coach at both last winter's Short Course World Championships, and this summer's World University Games...

[COLOR="#696969"]Amy & Claire[/COLOR]


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Bears occasionally lose recruits to Georgia (Raab, Mattern, McDermott), but win (Missy, Baker, Amy, Naze, Piehl) more often. Bears only real competition is LSJU. Virginia, Texas, Michigan, UCLA, 'SC, Wisconsin, and the Ivies have part of the puzzle, but none can match the Bay Area duopoly.

Midwest has some good swimmers, but they can't keep them home. If one of Michigan, IU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or Notre Dame could monopolize Midwest talent, they'd be a national power.

Drabot will pick Cal or LSJU. Beata Nelson will stay home and swim for UW. Have no idea on Adams, but think Georgia would prefer Small. They already have two elite backstrokers, so they won't take 2 backstrokers in this class no matter how much money they have.
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UrsusArctosCalifornicus;842487642 said:


The following are not multi-event NCAA scorers at this stage of their development, but their specialties may come in useful:

[INDENT]Lindsey Horejsi - Sprint Breast[/INDENT]

[INDENT]Grace Oglesby - Fly[/INDENT]


[COLOR="#3333ff"][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Probably not a major blip on Teri's radar, as Bears already has substantial top end depth in the shorter butterfly (Farida, Boots, Noemie, Jasmine) and will add Katie :cheer

More immediate needs in distance, maybe back. As always, an elite sprint breaststroker would be an invaluable asset so that Kathleen can be freed up to help out on the back leg in both medley relays - this might become more critical of a factor in the 2016-2017 season, after we lose Boots & Liz :cry:

btw is it me or are these verbal commits from elite recruits coming in earlier than usual this year??
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Grace Oglesby - [COLOR="#696969"]20 May[/COLOR]
I am so excited to announce my commitment to swim at the University of Louisville ! GO CARDS !


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[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=5]Kentucky State Record-holder Grace Oglesby to stay home, commits to Louisville Cardinals[/SIZE][/COLOR]



Kentucky’s state record-holding butterflyer Grace Oglesby, one of the top recruits in the class of 2016, has made an early verbal commitment to stay in-state and join the Louisville Cardinals in the fall of 2016.

Oglesby currently holds the second-fastest 100 fly time in high school swimming history after going 51.75 at the Kentucky High School State Championships in February. That’s just .05 off of the national high school record set by Wisconsin high school junior Beata Nelson. Oglesby put up that time swimming for her home high school, North Oldham High out of Goshen, Kentucky.

On top of that, Oglesby is excellent through all three butterfly distances, and adds big-time talent in a number of other events ranging from backstroke to IM to freestyle.

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The Cardinals blew up this past postseason for a 5th-place finish at the NCAA Championships, and already look like one of the elite teams in their new conference home, the ACC.


http://swimswam.com/top-class-of-2016-butterflier-grace-oglesby-commits-to-louisville/

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BearDevil
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Don't see this as a huge surprise or loss. Even after losing Bootsma, Bears will still be lopsided in fly in 2017. Don't think Oglesby or Nelson were ever on Teri's radar. Worrell's America's new fly star and Louisville is the local school. Doubt that Wisconsin gets both Drabot and Nelson, but would be surprised if they don't get Nelson.

Teri had too many backstrokers for several years and she has too many flyers now. Has to backfill in distance. Horejsi is too narrow a specialist when the team needs distance and back. Depending on the 2016 class, Teri probably adds sprint, sprint breast, and maybe a flyer in 2017.
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USA Swimming Stats - [COLOR="#696969"]22 May 2015[/COLOR]

The [U]top 27[/U], 18 & Under, girls that could have the biggest impact on the Women's NCAA Championships next year.




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USA Swimming Stats - [COLOR="#696969"]10 June 2015[/COLOR]

It's going to be interesting to track the swims in the 100m Fr. Check out the [U]top 10[/U] 16-17 girls. A lot of fast swims




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BearDevil;842429849 said:

on 12-27-2014, 10:48 AM

We're still only talking about adding 4-5 impact recruits in 2016, so Teri and Kristen know what they're losing: Pelton (back, middle distance, IM, sprints), Bootsma (back, fly, sprints), Acker (sprints, middle distance), Naze (IM, fly, back), and Grima (IM). They need to look at who can replace those points and relay slots while still addressing holes (distance and breast scoring). There's an extremely finite list of recruits who can contribute immediately. The staff needs to see if there's mutual interest from recruits with no prior ties to Cal (Voss, Horejsi, Beata Nelson, Jernberg) and evaluate them against returners in 2016 and recruits with prior connections to Cal.



[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=4]Cassy Jernberg To Swim With the University of Tennessee For The 2016-2017 Season[/SIZE][/COLOR]



http://swimswam.com/cassy-jernberg-to-swim-with-the-university-of-tennessee-for-the-2016-2017-season/
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Kind of an unusual year for Wisconsin: Drabot and Nelson are both top ten recruits and Jernberg may be a top 20 recruit. Adding all three could have moved the Badgers up big time. Big Ten schools have a tough time keeping elite talent home (Bootsma, Bilquist). Still think Nelson swims for UW, but Drabot goes all Horace Greeley. Distance is still a need, but adding Jernberg became an even longer shot when Abhey deferred since Teri then had only 3 slots for elite talent.
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http://swimswam.com/mireia-belmonte-at-top-of-spanish-ado-scholarship-dollars-allotment/

Not sure of the mechanics, but kinda looks like Spain may pay for half of Marina's education next year. Conceivably could allow Teri to add another mid to high level recruit.
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BearDevil;842501107 said:



http://swimswam.com/mireia-belmonte-at-top-of-spanish-ado-scholarship-dollars-allotment/

Not sure of the mechanics, but kinda looks like Spain may pay for half of Marina's education next year. Conceivably could allow Teri to add another mid to high level recruit.



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Interesting. Would be really great if that scenario was to play out as such...though the inner workings & rules surrounding the whole scholly funds allocation scheme still has me more than confused lol, let alone trying to comprehend how that would mesh with a foreign country's funding of a Cal student-athlete.

Actually I've been also wondering what Spain's selection criteria were for Worlds this year, since Marina will be part of the select Spanish National squad that's going to Kazan (yay! :cheer), yet AFAIK she hadn't competed at the Spanish Open National Championships that was held in Malaga, which I had previously assumed was their selection meet...
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http://swimswam.com/spain-to-send-14-athletes-to-kazan/
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BearDevil;842501107 said:

http://swimswam.com/mireia-belmonte-at-top-of-spanish-ado-scholarship-dollars-allotment/

Not sure of the mechanics, but kinda looks like Spain may pay for half of Marina's education next year. Conceivably could allow Teri to add another mid to high level recruit.


..but if Marina only have a partial scholarship to Cal, which is what I assume she has, perhaps there will be no significant savings. Am I incorrect in my thinking?
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That's possible. Since internationals aren't eligible for financial aid, most draw near full rides as freshmen. Based on her freshmen year, Marina's scholly money was likely adjusted, but maybe not significantly since Teri had no other viable substitutes for the breast legs on relays. Farida and Noemie have to be drawing significant scholly money too, but they are also probably being partially floated by their national teams during an Olympic year. Think Teri might have some additional funds to land the right transfer or late recruit if one becomes available.
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BearDevil;842501524 said:


Teri would take legacies Alyssa Marsh or Courtney Myykanen, but probably doesn't have room for both in the next recruiting class. Was an article today about someone from Eva Greene's/Abi Speers' club team who will swim for Duke. Thought to be a contender for the breast legs on relays at Duke. Maija's parents are Duke faculty and her sister's a med student, but Maija turned down both childhood favorite Duke and Harvard for Cal. Maija would have been the best breaststroker at both schools.



[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=4]Duke Women Land Another Huge 2016 Commit, Suzanne Dolan from Machine Aquatics[/SIZE][/COLOR]


[COLOR="#696969"]Suzanne Dolan is the second 2016 commit to Duke before the open contact period has even begun.[/COLOR]


http://swimswam.com/duke-women-land-another-huge-2016-commit-suzanne-dolan-from-machine-aquatics/
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http://swimswam.com/ethan-hall-takes-head-coaching-job-for-crow-canyon-sharks/

Ethan Hall, Natalie's husband, named head coach at Crow Canyon. Didn't realize he was the rec coach there, so an upgrade might help steer more recruits to Cal. Bears missed out on recent Crow Canyon swimmer Madison White (UCLA).
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BearDevil;842504900 said:

http://swimswam.com/ethan-hall-takes-head-coaching-job-for-crow-canyon-sharks/

Ethan Hall, Natalie's husband, named head coach at Crow Canyon. Didn't realize he was the rec coach there, so an upgrade might help steer more recruits to Cal. Bears missed out on recent Crow Canyon swimmer Madison White (UCLA).


I don't think we recruited he; her sister went to Cal and swam. Also Ucla is offering full rides to to recruits we might offer less than half. If we offered we probably wanted her to take .25scholarship while others went full
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BearDevil;842504900 said:



http://swimswam.com/ethan-hall-takes-head-coaching-job-for-crow-canyon-sharks/

Ethan Hall, Natalie's husband, named head coach at Crow Canyon. Didn't realize he was the rec coach there, so an upgrade might help steer more recruits to Cal. Bears missed out on recent Crow Canyon swimmer Madison White (UCLA).



[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=4]Back to the Sharks: A Q&A with Ethan Hall, Crow Canyon coach and husband to Natalie Coughlin[/SIZE][/COLOR]



http://swimswam.com/back-to-the-sharks-a-qa-with-ethan-hall-crow-canyon-coach-and-husband-to-natalie-coughlin/
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Interesting tidbit about Natalie's competitiveness. Teri had to alter some of the traditional training games during Natalie's era because she was too vicious toward her own teammates during games.
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BearDevil;842505753 said:


Interesting tidbit about Natalie's competitiveness. Teri had to alter some of the traditional training games during Natalie's era because she was too vicious toward her own teammates during games.


[COLOR="#3333ff"][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Ha, I recall seeing this competitive side of Natalie even outside the pool, when she had competed in that entertaining "Sports Stars" episode of [U]Chopped[/U] on the Food Network back in 2013, falling to Danica Patrick in the final dessert round!
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http://swimswam.com/natalie-coughlin-falls-danica-patrick-chopped-sports-stars-final/

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Notes from the Santa Clara Grand Prix for our 2016 recruits.

200 Free - Katie Drabot 7th, ahead of Simone Manuel 8th! Becca Mann 13th.

50 Back - Erin Voss 18th

400 IM - Becca Mann 4th, Katie Drabot 12th, Sierra Schimdt 15th (2017), Madison Homovich 16th (2017), Erin Voss 24th
 
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