2018 Men's NCAA Swimming and Diving

oskirules
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It's encouraging to know we're only behind Texas by less than 10 points after all 3 divers scored. But NC State Indiana, and Florida all look to be tough.
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Will definitely be a v. tight race and quite a challenge, perhaps all the way to the last relay - but Bears will hang tough and show their grit as always no matter the outcome!

Thank you again to PalyBear and you all for the timely result updates & observations!


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SCHOOL RECORDS HIGHLIGHT DAY TWO AT NCAAS


Daniel Carr, Ryan Hoffer, Connor Hoppe and Matthew Josa (clockwise from front left) took fourth in the 400 medley relay

"I was really impressed with how our guys came out this morning for prelims and put ourselves in great positions," Cal head coach David Durden said. "It was a good session, it wasn't a great session for us. We're slowly getting better as this thing goes on, which is good. We get some athletes out of the gate tomorrow so I'm excited to see them race."

"I think we're in a great spot," Durden said. "I honestly thought we were going to be down a little bit more after this first full day of racing and to be this close in the team race is really exciting for us because now we get to rely on our depth the rest of the way. We get to have five swimming events on each day of the last couple days and that benefits our strength as a program."

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BearDevil
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Still very wide open with five schools (Cal, Texas, NC State, IU, and Florida) that could win it. Texas and IU are the only schools with diving upside. Won't happen overnight, but Bears now have facilities in place to improve diving significantly.

Met a couple from Texas in SF a few years ago and one of their sons had been a diver on s UT team that finished second to the Bears. Another son played football for Air Force when AR and Marshawn tore up the fly boys in Colorado Springs.
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Prelim day 2

200IM

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  • Andrew Seliskar, Cal 3:37.84
  • Jonathan Roberts, Texas 3:38.64
  • Gunnar Bentz, Georgia 3:38.90
  • Jay Litherland, Georgia 3:38.92
  • Abrahm Devine, Stanford 3:39.29
  • Nick Thorne, Arizona 3:39.39
  • Charlie Swanson, Michigan 3:39.41
  • Brandonn Almeida, South Carolina 3:39.52
  • [/ol]
    B qualifier Mike Thomas but just missing out Sean Grieshop at #17

    100 fly 3 A qualifiers
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  • Caeleb Dressel, Florida 44.37
  • Vini Lanza, Indiana 44.66
  • Joseph Scholing, Texas 44.97
  • Ryan Held, NC State 45.06
  • Jan Switkowski, Florida 45.09
  • Justin Lynch, Cal 45.13
  • Matthew Josa, Cal 45.23
  • Ryan Hoffer, Cal 45.29
  • [/ol]
    14 Zheng Quah B qualifier


    200 free Great swim for frosh Bryce
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  • Townley Haas, Texas 1:31.78
  • Zach Apple, Auburn 1:32.20
  • Blake Pieroni, Indiana 1:32.40
  • Dylan Carter, USC 1:32.30
  • Dean Farris, Harvard 1:32.41
  • Khader Baqlah, Florida 1:32.53
  • Mohamed Samy, Indiana 1:32.76
  • Bryce Mefford, Cal 1:32.84
  • [/ol]
    Not qualifying jensen at #19

    100 breast Hoppe #2
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  • Ian Finnerty, Indiana 50.47
  • Connor Hoppe, Cal 51.78
  • Carsten Vissering, USC 51.87
  • Alex Evdokimov, Cornell 51.88
  • Conner McHugh, Minnesota 52.05
  • Mauro Castillo, Texas A&M 52.14
  • Levi Brock, Indiana 52.24
  • Evgenii Somov, Louisville 52.28
  • [/ol]and Sands gets in at #16

    100 back
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  • Robert Glinta, USC 44.99
  • Andreas Vazaios, NC State / John Shebat, Texas 45.00
  • Ralf Tribuntsov, USC 45.03
  • Nicolas Albiero, Louisville 45.05
  • Anton Loncar, Denver 45.11
  • Coleman Stewart, NC State 45.16
  • Austin Katz, Texas 45.21
  • [/ol]
    Daniel Carr B qualifier at 13

    Before the relays A & Bs

    [ol]
  • Cal 6/4
  • Texas 5/2
  • Indiana 5/0
  • Florida 3/1
  • NC State 2/2
  • [/ol]

    added 200mr All the top teams into the A final

    1 USC 1:24.43 1:22.76P q585
    1) Ralf Tribuntsov SR 2) r:0.23 Carsten Vissering JR
    3) r:0.31 Dylan Carter SR 4) r:0.14 Santo Condorelli SR
    r:+0.65 20.93 44.31 (23.38)
    1:04.28 (19.97) 1:22.76 (18.48)
    2 California 1:23.14 1:23.20 q579
    1) Daniel Carr FR 2) r:0.42 Connor Hoppe SR
    3) r:0.33 Justin Lynch SR 4) r:0.37 Pawel Sendyk SO
    r:+0.64 21.03 44.43 (23.40)
    1:04.24 (19.81) 1:23.20 (18.96)
    3 Florida 1:22.94 1:23.24 q579
    1) Michael Taylor FR 2) r:0.19 Chandler Bray SO
    3) r:0.20 Mark Szaranek SR 4) r:0.14 Caeleb Dressel SR
    r:+0.63 21.63 45.49 (23.86)
    1:05.94 (20.45) 1:23.24 (17.30)
    4 Indiana 1:23.95 1:23.26 q579
    1) Gabriel Fantoni FR 2) r:0.31 Ian Finnerty JR
    3) r:0.34 Vini Lanza JR 4) r:0.29 Bruno Blaskovic FR
    r:+0.68 21.40 44.67 (23.27)
    1:04.43 (19.76) 1:23.26 (18.83)
    5 Texas 1:24.28 1:23.28 q579
    1) John Shebat JR 2) r:0.10 Joseph Schooling SR
    3) r:0.24 Tate Jackson JR 4) r:0.18 Brett Ringgold SR
    r:+0.65 21.07 44.65 (23.58)
    1:04.70 (20.05) 1:23.28 (18.58)
    6 Tennessee 1:23.02 1:23.64 q573
    1) Braga Verhage SO 2) r:0.12 Peter Stevens SR
    3) r:0.19 Ryan Coetzee SR 4) r:0.18 Kyle Decoursey JR
    r:+0.64 21.89 44.65 (22.76)
    1:05.09 (20.44) 1:23.64 (18.55)
    7 NC State 1:23.53 1:23.66 q573
    1) Andreas Vazaios JR 2) r:0.15 Daniel Graber JR
    3) r:0.23 Coleman Stewart SO 4) r:0.22 Jacob Molacek JR
    r:+0.63 20.79 44.54 (23.75)
    1:04.94 (20.40) 1:23.66 (18.72)
    8 Louisville 1:23.41 1:23.79 q570
    1) Nicolas Albiero FR 2) r:0.10 Carlos Claverie SR
    3) r:0.14 Zach Harting JR 4) r:0.06 Andrej Barna SO
    r:+0.63 21.00 44.65 (23.65)



    UrsusArctosCalifornicus
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    BearDevil said:

    Still very wide open with five schools (Cal, Texas, NC State, IU, and Florida) that could win it. Texas and IU are the only schools with diving upside.

    Thanks, BD & OBear!

    Bears came thru in this morning's heats as noted in the post above, getting 6 individual A final qualifiers + 4 Bs (incl. 3 up in the 100 Fly!). Horns are right behind with their 5 up + 2 down, with the Hoosiers not far off @ 5 up + 1 down.

    As somewhat expected, Cal has just 1 up in the 200 Free (not taking anything from frosh Bryce's smashing 1:32.84 that obliterated his prev PB of 1:34.57 from Pac-12s!), and 1 down in the 100 Back (fellow froski Daniel's 45.69 representing his lifetime non-relay best)...

    Unfortunately for us, IU (Indiana has 3 in the championship final of the 3m!) & UT (2) will get a massive boost from their diving, so expect the pair to start separating a bit from the rest of the front pack (i.e. Wolfpack & Gators - Dressel's heroics for the latter notwithstanding), though Cal's depth in the swimming should help us stay close enough to still get a shot at the team title tomorrow.

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    Men's NCAA Swimming Championships: Who's Winning this Meet?




    After Friday morning's swimming prelims, the Golden Bears looked poised for a run.

    Below are the individual ups and downs for the top five teams. (Additionally, all five put their 450 medley relay teams in the A-final.)
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    Cal: 6/4
    Texas: 5/2
    Indiana: 5/1
    NC State: 3/2
    Florida: 3/1

    Cal's massive morning included three men getting into the 100 fly final: Justin Lynch, Matthew Josaand Ryan Hoffer. Lynch and Josa were expected to make it back, while Hoffer came in seeded 41st. The Bears also got an unexpected boost when Bryce Mefford, seeded 31st in the 200 free, swam a time of 1:32.84 to qualify eighth for the final.

    Three of the other schools have at least one individual title contender in the finals: Cal's Andrew Seliskar in the 400 IM, Dressel in the 100 fly, Pieroni and Texas' Townley Haas in the 200 free and Indiana's Ian Finnerty in the 100 breast.

    Then came the twist: This is the swimming and diving championships, and 3-meter diving prelims came up after the morning swimming. Three of those contending schools will not score a diver, but two of them will benefit big-time on the boards.

    Indiana's Hixon, Andrew Capobian and James Connor finished second, fourth and eighth, respectively, in prelims. For Texas, Grayson Campbell and Jordan Windle took fifth and sixth. With that in mind, here's what the updated ups and downs look like.
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    Indiana: 8/1
    Texas: 7/2
    Cal: 6/4
    NC State: 3/2
    Florida: 3/1

    Before the conclusion of diving prelims, statistician Price Fishback supplied updated projections for the final order of finish. The numbers below reflect points already scored, Friday morning's prelims placings scored out and Saturday's psych sheet projectionsbut again, no 3-meter or platform diving.



    Already, you can see that the two schools with point-scoring divers have a distinct advantage, not even factoring in the chunks of diving points the Hoosiers and Longhorns will receive later on. Cal and NC State are still in range, but Florida, even with Dressel's continued heroics, could fall of the pace.

    Important disclaimer: There's still a long way to go, and a lot of this could change. But in this moment, before the Friday night finals sessions, Texas and Indiana have to be feeling good, while Cal, despite an incredible run of prelims success the past two days, still has work to do.


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    day 3 finals

    400im

    [ol]
  • Abrahm Devine, Stanford 3:35.29
  • Nick Thorne, Arizona 3:38.58
  • Andrew Seliskar, Cal 3:38.73
  • Brandonn Almeida, South Carolina 3:39.38
  • Jay Litherland, Georgia 3:39.57
  • Charlie Swanson, Michigan 3:39.93
  • Jonathan Roberts, Texas 3:40.30
  • Gunnar Bentz, Georgia 42.95
    Quote:

    Arizona's Nick Thorne roared in for second at 3:38.56, cutting almost a second from this morning. Andrew Seliskar was the top seed. He went out very aggressive and seemed to be making a move on breaststroke, but ran out of gas badly on free and faded to just 3:38.73, eight tenths off his morning swim. Same goes for Texas's Jonathan Roberts, who was leading the way early but faded all the way to 7th by the end in 3:40.30.
    South Carolina's monster Brazilian import Brandonn Almeida came through late, surging to fourth. Behind him was Georgia's Jay Litherland, who moved from 7th to 5th over the course of his legendary crushing free leg. His teammate Gunnar Bentz was 8th, with Michigan's Charlie Swanson in between them.
    Cal's Mike Thomas came out with a gutsy swim in the B final, leading through fly and back before yielding the lead to Florida's Mark Szaranek in the breaststroke. Szaranek ultimately won in 3:37.64, but Thomas moved up to 3:37.75 both guys moved up by big margins to help their teams in the points battle.
  • [/ol]100fly

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  • Caeleb Dressel, Florida 42.80
  • Jan Switkowski, Florida 44.49
  • Vini Lanza, Indiana 44.50
  • Joseph Schooling, Texas 44.68
  • Ryan Held, NC State 44.88
  • Ryan Hoffer, Cal 44.93
  • Justin Lynch, Cal 45.02
  • Matthew Josa, Cal 45.11
  • [/ol]
    Quah 12th in B heat
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    NC State's Ryan Held finished 5th in 44.88, and Cal's stellar freshman Ryan Hoffer came through in sixth, going 44.93 from an outside lane. His teammates Justin Lynch and Matthew Josa rounded out the A heat.
    200free
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  • Townley Haas, Texas 1:29.50
  • Blake Pieroni, Indiana 1:30.23
  • Zach Apple, Auburn 1:31.18
  • Mohamed Samy, Indiana 1:31.73
  • Khader Baqlah, Florida 1:31.98
  • Dean Farris, Harvard 1:32.12
  • Dylan Carter, USC 1:32.68
  • Bryce Mefford, Cal 1:33.13
  • [/ol]
    100br
    [ol]
  • Ian Finnerty, Indiana 49.89
  • Connor Hoppe, Cal 51.16
  • Carsten Vissering, USC 51.28
  • Alex Evdokimov, Cornell 51.32
  • Levi Brock, Indiana 51.38
  • Conner McHugh, Minnesota 51.48
  • Evgenii Somov, Louisville, 52.07
  • Mauro Castillo, Texas A&M 52.11
  • [/ol]
    Sands came in 2 in B heat for some big points

    100bk
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  • Coleman Stewart, NC State 44.58
  • John Shebat, Texas 44.59
  • Andreas Vazaios, NC State 44.81
  • Austin Katz, Texas 44.99
  • Robert Glinta, USC 45.10
  • Nicolas Albiero, Louisville 45.16
  • Anton Loncar, Denver 45.20
  • Ralf Tribuntsov, USC 45.34
  • [/ol]Carr 3rd in B race

    Cal takes scoring lead before dives & relay but Texas & indiana 2 divers each in the A, so no doubt they will move Cal to 3rd after the dives

    scoring
    1. California 257.5 2. Indiana 255
    3. Texas 252 4. NC State 230
    5. Florida 214 6. Stanford 151
    7. Southern California 139 8. Georgia 98

    UrsusArctosCalifornicus
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    Aaaaargh, sooo bleeding close...out-touched a mere 0.06 sec by $C (Trojans have to thank Vissering for his .05 sec reaction time => 22.58 BR split, fastest in history) , our valiant Bears still broke their own 200 MR American record from 2015 by over half a sec, to finish runner-ups in 1:21.88.

    This felt almost like a deja vu of some of the agonisingly close relay finishes last week - where our women's team broke ARs + school & all sorts of records, only to come in a hair behind the Furdette Juggernaut!!

    Freshie Daniel Carr busted out another lifetime best to hand Cal the lead (20.85 BK), Connor a solid 23.01 BR, Justin a great 19.77 FLY (2nd fastest) and frosh Hoff hammered home a blazing 18.25 anchor (2nd quickest in the field, after Dressel's otherworldly 17.37 split)...but it wasn't quite enough to claim that much-needed 40 relay points.

    Brill effort all around tho!

    UPDATE (tweet):



    Day 3 Team Standings:

    1. Indiana | 325
    2. Texas | 306
    3. California | 291.5
    4. NC State | 252
    5. Florida | 246
    6. Southern California | 181
    7. Stanford | 165
    8. Louisville | 118.5
    9. Michigan | 101.5
    10. Georgia | 98
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    BEARS SET AMERICAN RECORD ON DAY THREE AT NCAAS





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    btw fab to see Murph handing out the trophies at the podium for the relay ... also Reece hanging out with his future bros in the Cal team section!



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    oskirules
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    That tie-dye colored bear costume is probably the most Berkeley thing there is.
    Bears in 3rd, close race even after all those points from Indiana and Texas divers.
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    Bears in 3rd, close race even after all those points from Indiana and Texas divers.

    AND THEN THERE WERE THREE: SCORING OUTLOOK FOR MEN'S NCAA DAY 4

    We started with five viable NCAA contenders, and although the meet isn't over 'til it's over, we're effectively down to three contenders, barring any miracles. Let's take a look at day 4 scoring chances for Indiana, Texas and Cal.

    CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS
    Cal's fates are very likely going to come down to its freshman class. Hoffer has been a big factor so far, and he'll have to move up from his 15th seed if Cal is going to win this thing. The Bears will also need points from rising backstrokers Daniel Carr (17th seed) and Bryce Mefford (21st), both of whom have had good meets so far. In addition, Grieshop is seeded 10th in the mile, but has dropped time in his other two events and could be a top 8 finisher there.

    Seliskar probably has to win the breaststroke for Cal to take the meet he's been great in the morning but hasn't closed the deal yet in finals.

    Quah has been a little less impactful than expected this week, but could redeem himself with a high 200 fly finish. Thomas and Josa are both A final candidates but also no guarantees to score.

    Cal should be fairly good in the relay, but a win is probably a tall order. They'll have to be set up awfully well coming out of the 200 fly to feel good about their chances of hoisting the team trophy.

    And before we upset anyone's impassioned fandom, it's too early to fully count NC State and Florida out. They'll both need to make up 70+ points in a day to win the title, but they do have some chances.

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    Mefford killed it again, catapulting up to the A final from his 21st seed of the 200 Back, with Carr moving up to secure B final scoring from his original 17th seed (both dropped time from their seeds)!

    Alas, Hoffer & Jensen got shut out @ the worst possible positions, 17th & 18th respectively, with Jensen @ 21st - so Bears will have no swimmers in the 100 Free final tonight.

    Looking rather grim for the title race rn, Cal with 1 up & 1 down ... Horns with a whopping 5 up & 2 down ... Hoosiers 1 up & 2 down ... the latter two with potential for big diving points.

    Well let's see if out breaststrokers can help put Bears back into the race in a minute...
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    Good news - Hoppe drops a big PB of 1:52.79 to join #2 seed Seli in the A final of the 200 breast (prev best = 1:54.46 from 2016 NCAAs)! Carson also with a 1:54.84 best (old PR = 1:54.87 from Pac-12s), ending up 19th.

    No Horns in tonight's final for this event, but IU will field 1 up & 1 down.

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    3 in A for 200 Fly (!!!!!): Mike Thomas, Trenton, and Quah

    Schooling got "schooled" in that... misses finals

    IU has 1 up, and that's it
    UrsusArctosCalifornicus
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    Ha, just when I had thought that all was lost with Quah's relatively underperforming 200 Fly swim, he does squeak into the A final ... Thomas lays down a massive 1:40.48 PB, and Julian an equally impressive 1:40.63 lifetime best to join Quah! And as swimmer19 noted, Schooling is a non-factor, with Texas not having a single scorer for the 200 Fly (Indiana does have 1 up).

    With their big platform diving bonuses, IU & UT are projected to win it, with Bears coming in 3rd. However, we do have Grieshop & Norman who both have solid chances of scoring in the mile, whilst I believe the 2 frontrunners don't have anyone there?

    At any rate, Bears will not give up - we'll all be cheering them on to the very last race, the 400 FR, no matter the predictions & likely outcome!

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    SELISKAR MOVES TO #9 ALL-TIME WITH 1:51.1 200 BREAST




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    UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:

    Ha, just when I had thought that all was lost with Quah's relatively underperforming 200 Fly swim, he does squeak into the A final ... Thomas lays down a massive 1:40.48 PB, and Julian an equally impressive 1:40.63 lifetime best to join Quah! And as swimmer19 noted, Schooling is a non-factor, with Texas not having a single scorer for the 200 Fly (Indiana does have 1 up).
    Actually, UT freshmen Sam Pomajevich is 10th in the B final, which is another 8 or 9 points for Texas.

    Ups and downs thus far...
    Cal: 6/1
    Texas: 5/3 + 2 divers (Windle is the NCAA record holder & this is both of their divers' best event)
    IU: 3/2 + 1 diver (likely to be A final)
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    bearz012 said:

    Actually, UT freshmen Sam Pomajevich is 10th in the B final, which is another 8 or 9 points for Texas.

    Haha, case of wishful thinking on my part I reckon...cheers for the correction
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    bearz012 said:

    UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:

    Ha, just when I had thought that all was lost with Quah's relatively underperforming 200 Fly swim, he does squeak into the A final ... Thomas lays down a massive 1:40.48 PB, and Julian an equally impressive 1:40.63 lifetime best to join Quah! And as swimmer19 noted, Schooling is a non-factor, with Texas not having a single scorer for the 200 Fly (Indiana does have 1 up).
    Actually, UT freshmen Sam Pomajevich is 10th in the B final, which is another 8 or 9 points for Texas.

    Ups and downs thus far...
    Cal: 6/1
    Texas: 5/3 + 2 divers (Windle is the NCAA record holder & this is both of their divers' best event)
    IU: 3/2 + 1 diver (likely to be A final)
    Disappointment in the 100 free with no qualifier(s), especially with Texas & indiana expected pts in the diving. Overall, loss of critical pts in the relays (expected to do better) gives us no wiggle room. I'm just saying.
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    2018 NCAA MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIPS: DAY 4 UP/DOWNS AND SCORING PROJECTION


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    PROJECTING MEN'S NCAA POINT FLUCTUATIONS FROM PRELIMS SCORING

    In all, Texas probably seems best set up to improve their projected points, while Cal seems more prone to falling a bit from projections. Indiana has a little of both, depending on the event.

    IU is seeded to finish one point ahead of Texas, but when you factor in an 11-point diving advantage for Texas, it looks like the Longhorns are the presumptive favorites for tonight's national team title.
    If this meet has taught us anything, though, it's that there's really no predicting anything. What we do know is that tonight's meet may come down to a 2-point swing in a B final somewhere, which should keep us all on the edge of our seats through the final race tonight.


    Joel Lin: "Take away diving & Cal won the meet in the pool. Butdiving looks to be the elixir for the Horns to take it tonite. Anything can happen, but the way it papers up it is Texas' meet to lose now.

    The 100 free absolutely killed the Bears. IU has a shot, but I think the Bears are on the outside looking in."


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    I know it isn't over, but isn't this twice in recent history that we could have won if not for diving? We have the facilities now, and top diving coaches don't cost that much. I know it isn't always about the money but I hate losing this way.

    Indiana Univ. Swimming/Diving
    Head swimming coach Ray Looze: $142,800
    Head diving coach Drew Johansen: $108,242
    Associate head coach/swimming Mike Westphal: $86,700
    Assistant coach/swimming: Blaire Bachman: $49,680

    https://www.hoosiersportsreport.com/2017/07/indiana-university-coaching-salaries-for-2018-fiscal-year/
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    2018 MEN'S NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS: 1650 FREE HEATS LIVE RECAP

    With the early heats done, the top 8 so far are guaranteed to score, even if the top heat beats all eight of them. This was important for Cal, as freshman Sean Grieshop (14:42.97) is sitting fourth, and he will finish no lower than 12th (aka, he'll score at least five points).

    Nick Norman will race in lane 7 in the final heat later on this evening for Cal, as Texas had no scorers and Indiana had no entrants here.


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    March Swimming Madness: NCAA Champs Coming Down to the Wire


    Cal's Andrew Seliskar -- Photo Courtesy: Peter H. Bick





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    Crikey, everyone stepped up massively hard in finals after several costly mis-steps in the morning heats.

    Overperformed across the board to achieve personal bests & school records, and more importantly, bumping up seeded/projected finals placings to earn every wee precious points, putting down dangerous upstarts IU in the process, and made it a thrilling race right up to the last race of the meet!

    Bears still the best swimming team in the field...heck have to confess I'm just more than a mite frustrated that it was those diving points of the Horns that basically handed them the overall team title at the end...

    Still bleeding proud of how resolute & full of grit our Bears were throughout Nattys... Swim on you Bears!
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    Someone please check my math but I think in Diving (3 events):

    Texas scored 81 total points
    Indiana scored 98 total points
    Cal scored 0 points

    We lost to Texas by 11.5 points

    Both Indiana and Texas each had 3 scoring divers and don't forget 1 diver = 0.5 swimmers.
    So for Texas 1.5 "heads" scored 81 points or 54 points per head.
    For Indiana 1.5 "heads" scored 98 points or 65.3 points per head

    Seems to me we need to think more strategically about diving.


    Texas-1M/3M/Plat/Total
    Jordan Windle-14/14/17/45
    Grayson Campbel-11/12/0/23
    Jacob Cornish-7/0/6/13

    Indiana-1M/3M/Plat/Total
    Michael Hixon-20/16/0/36
    James Connor-16/13/0/29
    Andrew Capobia-6/11/16/33


    UrsusArctosCalifornicus
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    Texas scored 81 total points
    Indiana scored 98 total points
    Cal scored 0 points

    We lost to Texas by 11.5 points

    Both Indiana and Texas each had 3 scoring divers and don't forget 1 diver = 0.5 swimmers.
    So for Texas 1.5 "heads" scored 81 points or 54 points per head.
    For Indiana 1.5 "heads" scored 98 points or 65.3 points per head

    Seems to me we need to think more strategically about diving.


    Hear hear! Great performance by our Bears, albeit sort of a bittersweet result (to be fair, most teams could only remotely fantasise about a Top 2 finish for 9 straight years, but guess Cal has set such a high standard on both the Men's & Women's side...).

    Got to love Peter Davis' comment on SwimSwam's writeup here (go & help upvote his comment before all the Bears haters there squash it down hehe):

    TEXAS LONGHORNS WIN 2018 NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS, 4TH-STRAIGHT VICTORY


    "Final score:
    1 Texas 449
    2 Cal 437.5
    3 Indiana 422
    4 NC State 385
    5 Florida 347

    Final score without diving:
    1 Cal 437.5
    2 NC State 385
    3 Texas 367
    4 Florida 347
    5 Indiana 324"
    solobear
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    Tough loss for the bears. The most aching miss would be Sean Grieshop missing 500 A Final by 0.07s (considering your eye blink takes 0.04 second). Opportunites are defnitely there, but a couple of IMers missed the A finals, 100 freetylers missed both A & B, etc.

    Since diving is not as popular in the U.S., including it in this competition is good for US divers. It motivates and prepares them to compete internationally, especially at the olympics.

    On the bright sight, Cal 2017 freshman class lives up to its billing. Next year, Texas has neither proven breastrokers nor flyers.

    As long as these coaches stay at Cal, the bears (both mens and womens team) will get their individual and team titles back to the school. It's just the matter of when.

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    BEARS PLACE IN TOP TWO AT NCAAS FOR NINTH YEAR IN A ROW



    "I think our guys handled the meet really well, session to session," Cal head coach David Durden said. "If we consider that Wednesday session day one, the last two days were really our best days. I was really proud of our guys and how they stayed in it. That first day didn't go very well for us, then it got a little better on day two, little better on day three and that rolled over and carried into day four. By the numbers, after prelims on day four, we still had to get some work done tonight and we were able to do that."

    "It's a testament to our senior class because they did it the right way this year," Durden said. "They did it in the classroom, they did it in the pool and they created a culture and a standard that our underclassmen are going to have to live up to now. That is a program changer for us. It was really cool to experience that here with them. We were certainly hoping to win a national title and we were pretty darn close. I was pretty impressed too that we did that without an individual title, a relay title. We kept throwing bodies at the meet and it was pretty cool to see our guys do that session in and session out."





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    2018 NCAA MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIPS: FINAL SCORING SUMMARY


    Cal scored the most swimming points with 437.5 followed by NC State with 385, Texas with 368, and Florida with 347. Indiana led the diving points with 98, followed by Texas with 81, Tennessee with 56, and Purdue with 54.

    Cal gained the most swimming points against the psych sheet, picking up 97, followed by Georgia who gained 79.5, Stanford who gained 75.5, and USC with 74.

    Texas return the most individual points with 251 returning. Cal are next with 218.5 coming back followed by Indiana with 180 and NC State with 124. 5th place Florida have some pretty big holes to fill as they only return 16 individual points next year. The team that look poised to take their place in the top 5 is Michigan who return 93.5 individual points.

    Texas and Cal each scored 27 times in individual events. Texas had 17 A finalists and Cal had 16. Indiana had 22 individual scoring events with 17 A finals it was their only 5 B finalists that cost them in their quest to keep up with the top 2.


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    OBear073akaSMFan
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    solobear said:

    Tough loss for the bears. The most aching miss would be Sean Grieshop missing 500 A Final by 0.07s (considering your eye blink takes 0.04 second). Opportunites are defnitely there, but a couple of IMers missed the A finals, 100 freetylers missed both A & B, etc.




    Lots of shoulda, coulda, and woulda but one thing they definitely bared down on day 4 and put on a show and made it a very close meet. I am proud of the Men and Women team for their outstanding performances!
    Schroeder71
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    Miracle! I knew that the Bears were in trouble by failing to win an event (I think) and poor comparative relay and
    individual performances. The poster that commented on the 80 & 98 diving points scored by Texas & Indiana,
    respectively, helped give me better perspective.

    Although Cal loses seven seniors, I believe that only Hoppe, Lynch & Josa were scorers in the NCAAs. Can the class of 2018 make up the "lost" points next season? The freshmen class of 2017 exhibited promise so it would be great to bring in quality recruit classes back-to-back. GO BEARS!
    hotlanta
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    It's tough to lose by 11.5 points to Texas (449 to 437.5) especially when you get outscored in the two diving events by 49 points (49-0).
    solobear
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    Regarding the near future, Cal mens team is in pretty good shape. It could have been a fairy tale for a team without superstars that wins 2018 ncaa. Maybe that tail is meant to end in 2019 instead. 2018 December invites will tell how the teams are shaping up.

    Freshmen's swimming scores at NCAA.
    - Cal: 87.5 (by 5 swimmers. Plenty of rooms to gain)
    - Tex: 59 (by 2 swimmers)
    - Indiana: 1
    - NC: 0
    - Other teams: Louisville(34 pts, 2 swimmers). Michigan(23, 1). USC(14, 1). Furd(4, 1). Florida(0)

    Relay.
    Generally, 450 points are needed to win, but relay max-point is already 200. Other schools' relays will loose key legs without proven replacements in sight.
    - Tex: Joe Schooling will be gone (fly, free, & also breaststroke).
    - Indiana: Blake Pieroni
    - NC: Ryan Held
    - Florida & USC: They might not even make A finals next year as their winning relays were built completely on seniors.

    UrsusArctosCalifornicus
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