Wow. I didn't know that until you know who said so tonight. I live and learn. Many thanks to you know who.
Kamala Harris Isn't Black
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Watching MAGA and Trump flailing away to find mud that will stick has been interesting and counterproductive. It certainly will turn off more people than it attracts. I'm guessing that their next claim is that Kamala Harris isn't a woman.
tRump just exponentially ratcheted up the self loathing/Tom factor for any Black person that votes for him.
With his limited intellect, absence of self awareness, tone deafness and supplemented by his delusional state, he actually thought he was going to speak to that convention and hide his contempt for them.
With his limited intellect, absence of self awareness, tone deafness and supplemented by his delusional state, he actually thought he was going to speak to that convention and hide his contempt for them.
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MAGA: "Biden chose her for VP only because she's a black woman."
— Alex Cole (@acnewsitics) July 31, 2024
Also MAGA: "She's not black!"
okaydo said:MAGA: "Biden chose her for VP only because she's a black woman."
— Alex Cole (@acnewsitics) July 31, 2024
Also MAGA: "She's not black!"
He is saying she previously didn't identify as black, which I agree, is a stupid thing to say.
"The current margin of support for Biden (59 points 77% to 18%) is lower than it was in 2020 or for Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to Pew Research Center validated voter studies.
Younger Black voters are more likely than older Black voters to say they would vote for Trump. While about two-thirds of Black voters under 50 favor Biden (68%), 29% support Trump. Black voters 50 and older favor Biden by a wider margin (84% vs. 9%)." https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/20/an-early-look-at-black-voters-views-on-biden-trump-and-election-2024/
This is a significant shift that the media consistently ignores or downplays. When Biden was in the race, Trump had double the support from African Americans he had before, which was more than recent Republicans already, coming mostly from younger voters. With Harris running now, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Regardless, the early polls were showing a huge shift in African American voting patterns, and that shouldn't be ignored.
As far as the Harris jabs, this nothing new for her. She faced the same criticism her entire career: that she played up her Indian ancestry more than her African one.
Younger Black voters are more likely than older Black voters to say they would vote for Trump. While about two-thirds of Black voters under 50 favor Biden (68%), 29% support Trump. Black voters 50 and older favor Biden by a wider margin (84% vs. 9%)." https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/20/an-early-look-at-black-voters-views-on-biden-trump-and-election-2024/
This is a significant shift that the media consistently ignores or downplays. When Biden was in the race, Trump had double the support from African Americans he had before, which was more than recent Republicans already, coming mostly from younger voters. With Harris running now, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Regardless, the early polls were showing a huge shift in African American voting patterns, and that shouldn't be ignored.
As far as the Harris jabs, this nothing new for her. She faced the same criticism her entire career: that she played up her Indian ancestry more than her African one.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Watching MAGA and Trump flailing away to find mud that will stick has been interesting and counterproductive. It certainly will turn off more people than it attracts. I'm guessing that their next claim is that Kamala Harris isn't a woman.
Ha ha. I await!
Will it?Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Watching MAGA and Trump flailing away to find mud that will stick has been interesting and counterproductive. It certainly will turn off more people than it attracts. I'm guessing that their next claim is that Kamala Harris isn't a woman.
I don't know if calling 1/3rd of younger black voters Uncle Toms is good move, I suspect it isn't, but I have no doubt it will be very common from non-black Democrats in the coming months.bearister said:
tRump just exponentially ratcheted up the self loathing/Tom factor for any Black person that votes for him.
With his limited intellect, absence of self awareness, tone deafness and supplemented by his delusional state, he actually thought he was going to speak to that convention and hide his contempt for them.
wc22 said:I don't know if calling 1/3rd of younger black voters Uncle Toms is good move, I suspect it isn't, but I have no doubt it will be very common from non-black Democrats in the coming months.bearister said:
tRump just exponentially ratcheted up the self loathing/Tom factor for any Black person that votes for him.
With his limited intellect, absence of self awareness, tone deafness and supplemented by his delusional state, he actually thought he was going to speak to that convention and hide his contempt for them.
I don't think it is a good idea to call a group of people black, which is just a color, when the proper spelling is Black, which refers to people of the African diaspora (I'm pretty sure your team, with glee, enjoy the politicization of the word and consciously use the lowercase b).
I also don't think it is a very good idea for anyone to vote for tRump, especially a person of color. If 1/3rd of younger Black voters don't like being tagged with the term "Tom," then they should stop acting like one.
Trump's long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020 - Vox
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
What has Trump done for Black people? Here's what his record shows. - Vox
https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people
*tRump has a lot of new entries in his racist portfolio since that first article linked was written in 2020. He added multiple entries today at the Black Journalist Conference.
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Conservatives when they hear Kamala Harris is Black AND Indian pic.twitter.com/uVxWuuukrU
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) August 1, 2024
Objectively speaking, this is definitely a bad move by Trump. As I have mentioned in another thread, Harris did choose to attend Howard, she came out from top high schools in Montreal as a trilingual Black applicant and could have attended Georgetown in the same area or a number of other prestigious universities instead, so she did embrace Black America early on.
Here's the reaction earlier this evening from a good friend of mine who is a Trump supporter :
Here's the reaction earlier this evening from a good friend of mine who is a Trump supporter :
Quote:
what he said today about is she black.now and was she indian then
probably speaking to her ability to manipulate or more simply just emphasize different aspects of herself for political expediency but I'm not sure how it'll play.....
my kids are biracial, so it didn't feel that good to me either....
in an election that will be decided by very small margins, he should only be taking about policy there is plenty of material to attack her on from a policy point of view but he's not using it
wc22 said:
"The current margin of support for Biden (59 points 77% to 18%) is lower than it was in 2020 or for Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to Pew Research Center validated voter studies.
Younger Black voters are more likely than older Black voters to say they would vote for Trump. While about two-thirds of Black voters under 50 favor Biden (68%), 29% support Trump. Black voters 50 and older favor Biden by a wider margin (84% vs. 9%)." https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/20/an-early-look-at-black-voters-views-on-biden-trump-and-election-2024/
This is a significant shift that the media consistently ignores or downplays. When Biden was in the race, Trump had double the support from African Americans he had before, which was more than recent Republicans already, coming mostly from younger voters. With Harris running now, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Regardless, the early polls were showing a huge shift in African American voting patterns, and that shouldn't be ignored.
As far as the Harris jabs, this nothing new for her. She faced the same criticism her entire career: that she played up her Indian ancestry more than her African one.
Most Black people (lineage in America) are Independent
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
Cal88 said:
Objectively speaking, this is definitely a bad move by Trump. As I have mentioned in another thread, Harris did choose to attend Howard, she came out from top high schools in Montreal as a trilingual Black applicant and could have attended Georgetown in the same area or a number of other prestigious universities instead, so she did embrace Black America early on.
Here's the reaction earlier this evening from a good friend of mine who is a Trump supporter :Quote:
what he said today about is she black.now and was she indian then
probably speaking to her ability to manipulate or more simply just emphasize different aspects of herself for political expediency but I'm not sure how it'll play.....
my kids are biracial, so it didn't feel that good to me either....
in an election that will be decided by very small margins, he should only be taking about policy there is plenty of material to attack her on from a policy point of view but he's not using it
If your friend is truly a Trump supporter, please tell him ConcordTom thinks he's an idiot.
And I invite him over to my house to show him our family's collection of president photos, taken with… (Nixon, Reagan, Bush).
I mean, hey, sometimes it just becomes THAT obvious.
#not your father's Republican Party.
He also is very concerned about those black jobs. He is, after all, the best president for blacks since Lincoln.
It would be cool if Trump had somebody in his campaign in an interracial relationship who has biracial kids.
Habba: Unlike you Kamala, I know who my roots are and where I come from pic.twitter.com/DMpdu2h861
— Acyn (@Acyn) July 31, 2024
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
I see her attending Howard being pushed a lot. Do most non-Black Dems realize why? I figure most don't know or care she isn't an American Decendent of Slavery.Cal88 said:
Objectively speaking, this is definitely a bad move by Trump. As I have mentioned in another thread, Harris did choose to attend Howard, she came out from top high schools in Montreal as a trilingual Black applicant and could have attended Georgetown in the same area or a number of other prestigious universities instead, so she did embrace Black America early on.
Here's the reaction earlier this evening from a good friend of mine who is a Trump supporter :Quote:
what he said today about is she black.now and was she indian then
probably speaking to her ability to manipulate or more simply just emphasize different aspects of herself for political expediency but I'm not sure how it'll play.....
my kids are biracial, so it didn't feel that good to me either....
in an election that will be decided by very small margins, he should only be taking about policy there is plenty of material to attack her on from a policy point of view but he's not using it
As far as how this will all play out with Black Americans, I don't know. I do find the common Dem takes willfully ignorant and truthfully racist.
Trump was actually courting the African American vote by calling Kamala Indian and being surprised she is now Black. You may accurately call this a scummy tactic, but at least Trump seems to be aware of the actual issues. Dems don't seem to care about these issues at all, prefering to view race like Hollywood casting.
Closer to the turn of the century, following Kamala Harris' career not-particularly-closely here in the Bay Area, I was aware that she was Black (because she went to Howard), but I didn't know she was half Indian.
They are so desperate to attack her, it's ridiculous (btw, JD, a stepmother* isn't "childless"). This is probably to deflect from the fact that they don't have a vision of their own for the country.
Had they sought my advice, which is often available at the right price, I would've told them to try and stay calm and act "presidential" as the euphoria subsides on its own.
* non-procreating stepmothers are great: they are parenting, without contributing to overpopulation... win-win
but ohhhhhh! what if she has cats?!?
🐔💩 Kamala's dad is Jamaican, but he is also HALF IRISH HALF HINDU !!!!
— The Dibster (@richarddibX) July 31, 2024
📢 THERE IS NOTHING BLACK ABOUT KAMALA !!! pic.twitter.com/Aeyfb514CK
"If you don't vote for me, you're not black." - Joe Biden
"We goin do it again in twenty-twenty fo." - Kamala Harris
"We goin do it again in twenty-twenty fo." - Kamala Harris
She’s back
— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) August 1, 2024
pic.twitter.com/zFB75KtgsT
She back.
⚫️ Kamala Harris is not black part 2‼️
— The Maverick Approach (@Maveapproach) July 31, 2024
The black card has been pulled too many times but I come with receipts.
Did you know Kamala ripped away the estate of Nina Simone from her own family?
Also I’m not sure how “Irish Jamaican” and East Indian qualifies as black American. 🤔 pic.twitter.com/ZtW0FvvfVm
Trump just DESTROYED this rude Anchor in front of EVERYONE! pic.twitter.com/WlAoZC51E8
— CartierFamily (@cartierfamilyZ) August 1, 2024
going4roses said:bear2034 said:Trump just DESTROYED this rude Anchor in front of EVERYONE! pic.twitter.com/WlAoZC51E8
— CartierFamily (@cartierfamilyZ) August 1, 2024
Yikes a whole family of immigrant coons … this type of propaganda makes yall out to be even more racist if that were even possible. Meritorious manumission reinforcing white depravity bka white supremacy
Please stop being so racist.
It's almost a if dumbass Trumpsters don't understand that the "bi" in "biracial" means "two."
The South Sudan basketball team agrees, Kamala Harris is not "black".
However, various US states had a so-called "one-drop" rule which said if there was any discernible trace of African heritage… sometimes it was 1/8 or 1/16, then you were considered 100% and thus eligible for slavery (Virginia, Louisiana, et al).
Enjoy this excellent video on Kamala's ethnicity.
However, various US states had a so-called "one-drop" rule which said if there was any discernible trace of African heritage… sometimes it was 1/8 or 1/16, then you were considered 100% and thus eligible for slavery (Virginia, Louisiana, et al).
Enjoy this excellent video on Kamala's ethnicity.
Oh? When did you ask them? Or are you just wanting to post pictures that judge people not only by their skin color, but by their shade of skin color?concordtom said:
The South Sudan basketball team agrees, Kamala Harris is not "black".
I'm looking into Harris' Irish ancestor:
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-is-a-descendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/
Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. Hamilton Brown, from Co Antrim, was paid equivalent of 11m in compensation by British government to free slaves after ban.
Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.
Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.
Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris's four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.
Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island's economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.
He gave his name to Brown's Town in Jamaica and is buried in the interior of St Mark's Anglican Church, which he built with his own money. Brown was pro-slavery and hated the British abolitionist William Wilberforce who brought in a Slave Registry Bill to stop the trading of slaves between different islands in the Caribbean. Brown called him "cloven footed" and a hypocrite.
Brown received almost 11 million in modern money in compensation from the British government for his slaves, according to records held by University College London (UCL).
Compensation was paid when the UK government banned slavery across the British Empire in 1833. The British spent 20 million (17 billion or almost 40 per cent of annual government revenue at the time) on compensation.
Brown received 12,610 for his slaves who were emancipated. He spent much of the money recruiting hired labour from his native Co Antrim.
Ms Harris's father, an emeritus professor of economics at Stanford University, acknowledged his family's slave-owning past in a piece for a Jamaican newspaper in 2018. Curiously, relatives on his mother's side are called Finegan. President Joe Biden's Irish ancestors are also called Finegan (Finnegan).
Donald Harris wrote: "My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (ne Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown's Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (ne Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me).
"The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, landowner and agricultural 'produce' exporter (mostly pimento or allspice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown's Town (and where, as a child, I learned the catechism, was baptised and confirmed, and served as an acolyte)."
The direct genealogical link between Ms Harris and Brown is not considered comprehensively proven. One article on the internet suggests that Kamala Harris's great-great-great grandmother Mary Melvina may have married a different Hamilton Brown who was not related to the first one.
The memorial to Hamilton Brown reads: 'Sacred to the memory of HAMILTON BROWN Esq. Native of the County Antrim, Ireland, who departed this life on the 18th Sept 1843 in the 68th year of his age. He was the FOUNDER OF THIS TOWN. Was 22 years one of the Representatives for this parish in the Honourable. House of Assembly. His name will long be cherished.'
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-is-a-descendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/
Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. Hamilton Brown, from Co Antrim, was paid equivalent of 11m in compensation by British government to free slaves after ban.
Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.
Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.
Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris's four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.
Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island's economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.
He gave his name to Brown's Town in Jamaica and is buried in the interior of St Mark's Anglican Church, which he built with his own money. Brown was pro-slavery and hated the British abolitionist William Wilberforce who brought in a Slave Registry Bill to stop the trading of slaves between different islands in the Caribbean. Brown called him "cloven footed" and a hypocrite.
Brown received almost 11 million in modern money in compensation from the British government for his slaves, according to records held by University College London (UCL).
Compensation was paid when the UK government banned slavery across the British Empire in 1833. The British spent 20 million (17 billion or almost 40 per cent of annual government revenue at the time) on compensation.
Brown received 12,610 for his slaves who were emancipated. He spent much of the money recruiting hired labour from his native Co Antrim.
Ms Harris's father, an emeritus professor of economics at Stanford University, acknowledged his family's slave-owning past in a piece for a Jamaican newspaper in 2018. Curiously, relatives on his mother's side are called Finegan. President Joe Biden's Irish ancestors are also called Finegan (Finnegan).
Donald Harris wrote: "My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (ne Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown's Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (ne Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me).
"The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, landowner and agricultural 'produce' exporter (mostly pimento or allspice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown's Town (and where, as a child, I learned the catechism, was baptised and confirmed, and served as an acolyte)."
The direct genealogical link between Ms Harris and Brown is not considered comprehensively proven. One article on the internet suggests that Kamala Harris's great-great-great grandmother Mary Melvina may have married a different Hamilton Brown who was not related to the first one.
The memorial to Hamilton Brown reads: 'Sacred to the memory of HAMILTON BROWN Esq. Native of the County Antrim, Ireland, who departed this life on the 18th Sept 1843 in the 68th year of his age. He was the FOUNDER OF THIS TOWN. Was 22 years one of the Representatives for this parish in the Honourable. House of Assembly. His name will long be cherished.'
concordtom said:
When did the South Sudan team say that Harris isn't black, as you claimed?
Posted on Harris' YouTube page 3 years ago:
"My mother was very well aware she was raising 2 black girls to be 2 black women."
concordtom said:
Posted on Harris' YouTube page 3 years ago:
"My mother was very well aware she was raising 2 black girls to be 2 black women."
Yes. She's black. Has been her entire life. Just like she's Indian. None of this is news. It's as if millions of morons are only just now figuring out that the "bi" in "biracial " means "two."
Who is Kamala's father, Donald Jasper Harris?
Her parents met at Cal Berkeley.
She was studying to be a cancer biologist.
He was studying economics, graduated 1969. He became a tenured prof at Stanford in 1972.
Conservatives will LOVE his field of focus.
Kamala's parents split when she was 5 and she was raised mostly by her mom.
Mom is departed. Dad is still alive.
Her parents met at Cal Berkeley.
She was studying to be a cancer biologist.
He was studying economics, graduated 1969. He became a tenured prof at Stanford in 1972.
Conservatives will LOVE his field of focus.
Kamala's parents split when she was 5 and she was raised mostly by her mom.
Mom is departed. Dad is still alive.
MTbear22 said:concordtom said:
When did the South Sudan team say that Harris isn't black, as you claimed?
Calm down.
Watch the video.
"Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. Hamilton Brown, from Co Antrim.."
Irish? Irish my @$$. He was a by product of England's Empire Building:
Starting in 1609, Scots began arriving into state-sponsored settlements as part of the Plantation of Ulster. This scheme was intended to confiscate all the lands of the Gaelic Irish nobility in Ulster and to settle the province with Protestant Scottish and English colonists.
The Brits then used Hammy as part their Empire Building when they shipped his pastey Scottish arse to Jamaica.
Hammy was no Irishman. He was a drum banging Orangeman.
IRELAND FOREVER!
Irish? Irish my @$$. He was a by product of England's Empire Building:
Starting in 1609, Scots began arriving into state-sponsored settlements as part of the Plantation of Ulster. This scheme was intended to confiscate all the lands of the Gaelic Irish nobility in Ulster and to settle the province with Protestant Scottish and English colonists.
The Brits then used Hammy as part their Empire Building when they shipped his pastey Scottish arse to Jamaica.
Hammy was no Irishman. He was a drum banging Orangeman.
IRELAND FOREVER!
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