The spoken truth about the Texas floods

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DiabloWags
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How about a contest to see who could shoot their dog dead the quickest?

Noem or MTG?
socaltownie
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bearister said:

Why Kerr County balked on a new flood warning system | The Texas Tribune


https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/

"In 2021, Kerr County was awarded a $10.2 million windfall from the American Rescue Plan Act, or ARPA, which Congress passed that same year to support local governments impacted by the pandemic. Cities and counties were given flexibility to use the money on a variety of expenses, including those related to storm-related infrastructure. Corpus Christi, for example, allocated $15 million of its ARPA funding to "rehabilitate and/or replace aging storm water infrastructure." Waco's McLennan County spent $868,000 on low water crossings.

Kerr County did not opt for ARPA to fund flood warning systems despite commissioners discussing such projects nearly two dozen times since 2016. In fact, a survey sent to residents about ARPA spending showed that 42% of the 180 responses wanted to reject the $10 million bonus altogether, largely on political grounds."*



*One of the side effects of MAGA hate/anger is brain fog. I'm confused. Is that 42% now willing to accept relief donations from California commies?

Grrrr.....

I am not holding my breath but my goodness in the special session they really need to put some additional safety measures in place for these camps. The industry should welcome it - otherwise there will be no more industry
socaltownie
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chazzed said:

We need more reporters to ask this POS the tough questions.



I don't like that question. He definitely doesn't look good. But it feels like the better question would have been.

"Clearly there were breakdowns in getting the word out, maintaining flood sirens, allowing for the continued occupation of cabins in the worst of the worst flood zone. Mr. President and Governor, what are you going to do moving foward to make sure such a thing never happens again?

Why? Because it seems that NWS did issue warnings. They just may not have been amplified loudly enough (staffing?) and there seemed to be no plan in place if the floods came in the middle of the night.
chazzed
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The questioning could have been different, yes. My point is that, as with everything, 47 makes it all about him. And him calling the reporter evil is more irony than one will ever encounter, give or take.
concordtom
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Funny.
The blue light was on, indicating someone had replied to a post of mine. But now I go to find it and I've posted nowhere, with no reply to me, either.

Hmmm. Mods must have come in and deleted both.

What did I say?
Probably something about my wishing Trump would trip walking down stairs and crack his head open.
bearister
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Camp Mystic's leader got a 'life threatening' flood alert. They evacuated an hour later.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2025/camp-mystic-alerts-texas-floods/
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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socaltownie said:

chazzed said:

We need more reporters to ask this POS the tough questions.



I don't like that question. He definitely doesn't look good. But it feels like the better question would have been.

"Clearly there were breakdowns in getting the word out, maintaining flood sirens, allowing for the continued occupation of cabins in the worst of the worst flood zone. Mr. President and Governor, what are you going to do moving foward to make sure such a thing never happens again?

Why? Because it seems that NWS did issue warnings. They just may not have been amplified loudly enough (staffing?) and there seemed to be no plan in place if the floods came in the middle of the night.
As I work with both the NWS and Emergency Managers on a fairly regular basis, I'll add my comments here. The NWS warning system is highly automated. They hit transmit on their warnings, then it gets sent through the EAS system to radio and TV stations and to the cell phone alert systems without any further effort on their part. Ideally, they would also call the emergency dispatch centers to make sure the message was received, but if they were swamped, I'm not sure they would have the time to do it. They usually have one or two people just manning the phones (they get lots of calls from the public at times like that) that could make a few calls.

As for Kerr County, I'd be shocked if they didn't have contingency plans in place. It sounds like they didn't act up on them with any urgency. I'd be interested in knowing their staffing. I've heard of smaller rural counties with small budgets that didn't have Sheriff or dispatch services 24 hours a day (often having a neighboring county covering for them). However, Kerr County has a big enough population (52,000) that this shouldn't have been the case.

Possibly the local population has seen enough flood warnings that were no more than a nuisance so that they didn't take the warnings seriously. Possibly they turned off alerts on their phones. However, given their past flooding and having rain coming down very heavily (2-3 inches per hour for several hours), you would think they would be watching and debating whether to move to higher ground. I know I would have. Still, the local government never should have been allowing that much development in areas that were clearly known to be in a flood plain. The whole thing was a cluster***** decades in the making.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Possibly the local population has seen enough flood warnings that were no more than a nuisance so that they didn't take the warnings seriously. Possibly they turned off alerts on their phones. However, given their past flooding and having rain coming down very heavily (2-3 inches per hour for several hours), you would think they would be watching and debating whether to move to higher ground. I know I would have. Still, the local government never should have been allowing that much development in areas that were clearly known to be in a flood plain. The whole thing was a cluster***** decades in the making.

This is a really interesting human phenomena. My dad lives in tornado alley. When the alarms go off I jump up and start toward the shelter. He and the locals literally laugh at me. They get those warnings so often they basically ignore them and / or have learned when it is real for them (last time I was there we must have had 60 MPH winds with hail and the skies looked like something straight out of the movie Twister. But the trees "weren't moving the right way for it to be a tornado" so they just ignored it).
bearister
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Hey, you know what, if you are an adult with sound mind and decide that acting on a Flash Flood Warning! is being neurotic, I get it. You will probably never have a problem….but as they say in Seville, "Sometimes de bull, he win." You bought the ticket. You took the ride. You drowned. Fair enough.

BUT WHAT REALLY BURNS MY A$$ is that kids are pretty much sheep that are subject to following the judgment of the adults that watch over them*…..like the owner of the religious camp that waited one hour to act on the evacuation order……well, at least he paid the ultimate penalty himself. I'm not sure I would have wanted to survive either after seeing the consequences of my conduct.



*…..like kids that are pedaled around in these things by their parents on streets full of substance impaired, distracted and senile drivers…..but you know what, I'm just an old guy, what do I know?
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movielover
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I have a friend on the West Coast of Florida who chases down tornadoes, takes pics / videos, until it gets real hairy and / or its a "direct hit" where he lives.
 
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