https://ktla.com/news/local-news/possible-immigration-raid-escalates-tear-gas-deployed-at-camarillo-farm/

F these raids.

"Tim Scott: "I want to be very clear: If we continue to see this violence against law enforcement officers, do not expect not violence, blood in the streets." Fox News



Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio
Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been gone long ago
What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
-Ohio, Neil Young


Where was the outrage then?

This is all antidotal, but in California, the raids seem to be achieving the goal of scaring illegals from showing-up to work. Remove illegal competition from the labor marketplace, supposedly that opens jobs for US workers, and increase wages with less competition. Economics 101 right?

Not exactly. It is a mess. Many of the employers looked the other way or helped workers with fraudulent documents and are now shut down, with employers now facing criminal charges (by the way not the case with the Oxnard farm that was just raided). But that represents further business contraction and less jobs for everyone. We are in the real estate business and that means construction shortages and supply chain issues. The garment industry is a logical target for immigration enforcement because so much of the workforce is undocumented, and those companies in LA are just folding-up. Even the ones who were not raided. And illegals are cutting back as they don't leave the houses, no one's going to school anymore, and no they are not speeding money, which means California's economy contracts more.

Many of the illegals are skilled labor, That means there often is not someone there to replace the illegal worker who is rounded-up. This may benefit some employees with more overtime, but the reality is that the business and their customers can't fill the jobs in the short run, and these businesses and their customers are suffering. I see this personally in the vendors we deal with. Quoting an LA Times article here: "Immigrant-heavy industries, rely on the services generated by low-wage, undocumented labor to save costs and that just means those of us who rely on these services, which in California is mostly everyone, are getting hit with another round of cost increases as California's cost of living continues to rise. "

Immigration is not a cut and dry issue. It is complicated and deserves more reasoned policies given all the consequences that stem from legal and illegal immigration. That is not what we have, and it is hard to see any end game from these raids that benefits those of us who live in California.

California Ag leaders are pushing back against remarks made on Tuesday by Secretary of Ag, Brooke Rollins who said that farm laborers could be replaced by automation and "able-bodied" U.S. citizens on Medicaid.

"There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way. We move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which, again, with 34 million people, able-bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly."

Farmers and industry experts consulted by The Los Angeles Times however say that's not realistic. "I can confidently say that most farmers in the country either laughed out loud or were just deflated by those comments," said Helen McGrath, a citrus and avocado grower in Ventura County. "It just shows how uninformed and out of touch some of these officials are."

More than 40% of crop workers in the U.S. lacked work authorization as of 2022, with California relying heavily on immigrant labor. Immigration raids in recent months have worsened shortages. According to a Reuters report from late June, up to 70% of farmworkers in Ventura County stopped showing up for work that month amid increased ICE enforcement. "If 70% of your workforce doesn't show up, 70% of your crop doesn't get picked," said local grower Lisa Tate to the news outlet back then.



California Farmers Reject USDA Secretary's Claim That Immigrant Workers Can Be Replaced: 'Uninformed and Out of Touch'

So we are not going after rapists, murderers and drug dealers but..,people who are working!

This whole thing is and always have been a criminal charade- it's obvious they are working towards Steven Miller quotas not criminality and in response they are given yet more money and bodies. Talk about government waste.



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DiabloWags said:

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California Ag leaders are pushing back against remarks made on Tuesday by Secretary of Ag, Brooke Rollins who said that farm laborers could be replaced by automation and "able-bodied" U.S. citizens on Medicaid.

"There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way. We move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which, again, with 34 million people, able-bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly."

Farmers and industry experts consulted by The Los Angeles Times however say that's not realistic. "I can confidently say that most farmers in the country either laughed out loud or were just deflated by those comments," said Helen McGrath, a citrus and avocado grower in Ventura County. "It just shows how uninformed and out of touch some of these officials are."

More than 40% of crop workers in the U.S. lacked work authorization as of 2022, with California relying heavily on immigrant labor. Immigration raids in recent months have worsened shortages. According to a Reuters report from late June, up to 70% of farmworkers in Ventura County stopped showing up for work that month amid increased ICE enforcement. "If 70% of your workforce doesn't show up, 70% of your crop doesn't get picked," said local grower Lisa Tate to the news outlet back then.



California Farmers Reject USDA Secretary's Claim That Immigrant Workers Can Be Replaced: 'Uninformed and Out of Touch'

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Helen McGrath (quoted in the article) should know that it isn't that the fascists are "uninformed and out of touch" - the fascists want to punish California for not supporting fascism. The fascists want a smaller, less economically vibrant, less impactful, more broken California.

When a disaster strikes California, the state will get nothing from the Feds. Zero. Nada. All part of the plan.

You couldn't find one MAGA in a crowd of 10,000 at one of their hatefest rallies that would last 45 minutes in the Salinas sun.


Murals by John Cerney, Salinas

These poor souls brave heat waves and allergies from drought-fueled pesticide dust with hardly any medical care and now this Administration is ****ting all over them. I want to see Brooke Rollins or Kristi Noem spend an entire day in the fields...

Those two couldn't make it two days without a cosmetic procedure.

bearister said:

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Those two couldn't make it two days without a cosmetic procedure.

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lol

DiabloWags said:

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These poor souls brave heat waves and allergies from drought-fueled pesticide dust with hardly any medical care and now this Administration is ****ting all over them. I want to see Brooke Rollins or Kristi Noem spend an entire day in the fields...

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Can't we just then use African American slaves?

"alle Mexikaner gehören in Konzentrationslager."

Farmworker dies from injuries during immigration raid in Southern California, family says

https://abc7news.com/post/ventura-county-california-immigration-raids-jaime-garcia-life-support-injury-during-camarillo-raid-family-says/17071639/

bearister said:

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Farmworker dies from injuries during immigration raid in Southern California, family says

https://abc7news.com/post/ventura-county-california-immigration-raids-jaime-garcia-life-support-injury-during-camarillo-raid-family-says/17071639/

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Another way of looking at this story -- the way the majority of Americans view it -- is that an illegal immigrant actively tried to hide from police, and was stupid enough to fall from a roof while doing so. Usually, that type of thing generates a "Darwin Award Winner" response... yet to progressive liberals, illegal immigrants, for some reason, get a free pass.

Look, I would not travel to Paris, or Tokyo, or Reykjavik, or Oslo, and overstay my visa, and then complain/*****/protest/spraypaint/attackpolice when they came to get me to remove me from the country. Fu ck your double standard. Anyone in this country illegally should be removed, no matter their criminal record. Nobody asked your Party to invite millions of illegals into the country in recent years -- you did so anyway, absolutely invalidating and neutering the hard work of our fine border control officers along the Southern border... and due to your stupidity, you lost the election. Just realize what a bubble you people live in.

You gonna be down in Salinas this summer picking my strawberries son?

Can't wait for "white" America to show up in the fields picking crops.

That's one helluva bubble.

DiabloWags said:

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You gonna be down in Salinas this summer picking my strawberries son?

Can't wait for "white" America to show up in the fields picking crops.

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I know a lot of unemployed healthy folks of all races who could use a job, and need a little motivation to get that job. This is why I am 100% in favor of tying mandatory work effort in order to receive free government handouts.

These types of events always boost productivity in the long run, anyway. Maybe we need a strawberry gin. Seems kind of primitive to pick fruit by hand, doesn't it? Anyway, I'd be OK with less access... I don't need strawberries year round. It's more natural to have seasonal items, anyway...

CaliforniaEternal said:

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Meanwhile, in LA County, two of the three Chilean illegals that were arrested for burglarizing my neighbor's house a few weeks ago were released with the full expectation that they won't show up in court because California refuses to turn over illegals. Total insane catch and release policy.

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Correct.

sonofabear51 said:

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Were they picking crops? Or did they come here looking to do exactly that, burglary, theft, robbery? There IS a difference.

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We don't know as the WEF Autopen Administration flew in unvetted illegal immigrants in the dead of night, along with a wide open border. Victor Davis Hanson says four flights a day of illegal immigrants flew into Fresno in the early morning hours, every day. He says they'll be 25 to 50 people living in a one bedroom house near his property, makeshift shed, Porta potties.

We had no problem picking crops the past hundred years, we have legal guest worker programs.