concordtom said:
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okaydo said:
OIt's amazing how consequential the 2016 election was.
Many of the left-leaning Trump haters who disdained Hillary (and either didn't vote or voted third-party) were probably too ignorant that a Trump win would give the Republicans everything....and that's why Republicans held their nose and voted for him.
wise words. I's surprised Kennedy didn't at least stick it out past mid-terms. Having met the man, he is judicially conservative, but more moderate politically. I know he met with Turmp and provided suggestions on replacements. I wonder if there is not a gentlemen's agreement to pick somewhat more like Kennedy than Scalia, in exchange for the timing of the resignation.
Gentleman's agreement? Trump?.. Lol. Sorry, that has zero credibility as an idea. Trump has repeatedly promised his base that he'd appoint someone who would protect their second amendment rights and overturn Roe vs Wade.
by stating the following I'm not saying I love the concept of abortion, but go ahead and reverse or try and reverse it. You want to see pink pussiehat marches against this conservative wave? Ha, I laugh my ass off at the prospect.
When does life begin?
When are you taking something away from a being that possesses something to be lost?
Having had 5 kids, I recognize that immediately after egg fertilization, my future children were nothing more than a collection of spastically active cells. No organization of itself into consciousness, thus not an entity which would recognize itself or its loss. How is that different from the insects I regularly been killing as pests around the back screen door (an argument that they are less than the insects can be made, no?)
Yet, at some point, I reason those cells do organize into an entity that if life were taken away, a conscious loss would occur. When is that? After the baby is born? After the baby resembles a human? This is the question?
I grew up being told that the instant the sperm meets egg, there was something sacred that instantaneously occurred and this life could not be touched. However, I now believe that consciousness is developed over time and one grows into it. I do not think this collection of cells, for instance, knows what it's missing, nor has enough history to feel that anything has been taken away.
Plenty of pregnancies are lost at this stage naturally. Do we feel that a death of human life has occurred? Sad, YES, but so sad as it would be with a stillborn. Why is that?
Thoughts anyone?
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