You obviously know nothing about the extensive training, testing, and certification that all cops go through before they hit the streets.Another Bear said:
Cops should be licensed, requiring standardized training, testing and certification...just like hair dressers, teachers, nurses, dog groomers, make up artists, house painters, security guards, travel agents and florists.
For fcck sake, if security guards and florist requires a license, cop should as well. Licensing would separate the riff raff, yahoos and hung-ho dingbats.
Mostly bad people. Sometimes the cops. Not usually though.going4roses said:
So what is the problem in your opinion?
Cops are human just like the rest of us. It's unreasonable to expect them to be perfect all the time, especially when they are being threatened or harrassed by hoodlums, gang members, and others who disrespect them.Copgoing4roses said:
So what is the problem in your opinion?
Wow! Hard to believe that any intelligent person ewould actually hold that view. I hope you're never in a situation where you have to dial 911.Anarchistbear said:
What's the point of police? It's not- as popularly believed- to make members of a community feel safer; it's more retribution and enforcement and rarely prevents crime.
Golden One said:Wow! Hard to believe that any intelligent person ewould actually hold that view. I hope you're never in a situation where you have to dial 911.Anarchistbear said:
What's the point of police? It's not- as popularly believed- to make members of a community feel safer; it's more retribution and enforcement and rarely prevents crime.
I'll accept that.going4roses said:
You mean " rational "
Anarchistbear said:
What's the point of police? It's not- as popularly believed- to make members of a community feel safer; it's more retribution and enforcement and rarely prevents crime.
Ok, I get it now. You're trolling.Anarchistbear said:
Police solve nothing. They're just robots programmed to "fight crime." Nobody in minority communities are thrilled to see their so called protectors. In Orinda it's different.
You obviously feel differently, but when I see police patrolling my community, I feel comfortable and reassured. Most black people I know feel the same way.Anarchistbear said:Golden One said:Wow! Hard to believe that any intelligent person ewould actually hold that view. I hope you're never in a situation where you have to dial 911.Anarchistbear said:
What's the point of police? It's not- as popularly believed- to make members of a community feel safer; it's more retribution and enforcement and rarely prevents crime.
Police solve nothing. They're just robots programmed to "fight crime." Nobody in minority communities are thrilled to see their so called protectors. In Orinda it's different.
This is the attitude I'd get from the 5th graders I used to counsel. It's not the perspective of a rational adult. Adults are pragmatic, children dwell on misguided notions of 'fairness' and 'who started it'.Anarchistbear said:
I don't feel comfortable. I don't feel reassured. I'd rather not see them. Why should I if I haven't done anything wrong?
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With regard to minorities that's not my experience. Crime is due to people who lack basic needs, drugs and the mentally disturbed.. Police have nothing to do with preventing any of this.
What a dishonest assertion to frame an insanely irrational position.Anarchistbear said:
Their role is to enforce laws without discretion.
This incoherent hyperbolic rambling is akin to some of Trump's diatribes.Quote:
They are the enemies of many communities. Why wouldn't they be? Their role is to enforce laws without discretion. In fact crime has always been a part of poor communities be it the Irish, the Italians the Chinese, Hispanics and African Americans. Crime also has been at many times the only economic driver in these communities. The role of police is to criminalize and imprison people without regard to community needs which historically has been busting people capriciously and arbitrarily. Nobody likes or trusts them.
I completely agree with this sentiment but you can't ignore the mental illness aspect of it. I read this young man was mentally ill and called the police himself because he was scared and confused. Police need special training to deal with the mentally ill because the mentally ill do not act rationally. Too often, the police don't get this training and the mentally ill end up dead.GBear4Life said:
One of the perplexing questions of our time: why do people resist arrest? Isn't that like trying to escape death, argue foul calls. It's like banging one's head against the wall over and over. I mean, the cops AREN'T GOING AWAY. Never seen a cop be like "oh, he's really opposed to this arrest, I guess we'll be on our way." Resisting actually permits them to use lawful physical force to detain you.
Along with civics and economics, all HS seniors should be required to take a one hour seminar on how not to get your ass kicked by the police. Don't be "IG-NANT"!
What is this word salad.GBear4Life said:
Leftists will always work backwards from their ideologically based premise regarding guns and LE generally to align with that premise. You were part of the thread that discussed the numbers of guns acquired illegally. Just stop. LE being on "alert" will always be there, as a gun ban (as stupid, as impractical, and how poorly supported that idea is) would not eliminate extraordinary amount of guns in circulation. Not that that matters. And nevermind the irony of taking away guns from a citizenry to protect themselves from government officers with guns that the very same people find so dangerous.
As you increase LE presence, crime goes down. To the hate-police brigade, they always manage to turn that correlative fact to redirect conversation towards an irrelevant or misleading talking point.Golden One said:You obviously feel differently, but when I see police patrolling my community, I feel comfortable and reassured. Most black people I know feel the same way.Anarchistbear said:Golden One said:Wow! Hard to believe that any intelligent person ewould actually hold that view. I hope you're never in a situation where you have to dial 911.Anarchistbear said:
What's the point of police? It's not- as popularly believed- to make members of a community feel safer; it's more retribution and enforcement and rarely prevents crime.
Police solve nothing. They're just robots programmed to "fight crime." Nobody in minority communities are thrilled to see their so called protectors. In Orinda it's different.