Gavin Newsom has kicked off his 2024 Presidential campaign...

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Big C
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Full disclosure: I am a moderate fan of Gavin Newsom, but... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Governor, say less, say it more clearly, use visuals as needed and please learn that, at least for now, California is not a "nation state". Good God, who wrote that speech for him?

Good idea, though. Trump has not made the kind of speech that people want and need to hear and Joe Biden will either not be around in 2024, or will be very, very old. Good idea, but poorly executed. It was better than a poke in the eye with a stick.
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Axios show on HBO conducted a version of an attack interview on him a few months back and he conducted himself quite ably. He has my vote. Thank God our fate is in his hands and that the fate of states that tRump carried in 2016 have their fate in the hands of the small fingered vulgarian.
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okaydo
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Big C said:

Full disclosure: I am a moderate fan of Gavin Newsom, but... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Governor, say less, say it more clearly, use visuals as needed and please learn that, at least for now, California is not a "nation state". Good God, who wrote that speech for him?

Good idea, though. Trump has not made the kind of speech that people want and need to hear and Joe Biden will either not be around in 2024, or will be very, very old. Good idea, but poorly executed. It was better than a poke in the eye with a stick.

Eh. He's not going to run for president. He knows it. I know it. He looks like the president on Nnamdi's wife's former show, except for he had a real affair. He has limited appeal.



Big C
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"Limited appeal"? Compared to who? What candidates out there have markedly more appeal?

Newsom has had his eye on the White House for decades, hasn't he? Heck, I would be willing to get over the fact that he has much better hair than I do and put him in there right now, although I am curious as to why he doesn't know what a "nation state" is. I expected more...
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okaydo said:

Big C said:

Full disclosure: I am a moderate fan of Gavin Newsom, but... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Governor, say less, say it more clearly, use visuals as needed and please learn that, at least for now, California is not a "nation state". Good God, who wrote that speech for him?

Good idea, though. Trump has not made the kind of speech that people want and need to hear and Joe Biden will either not be around in 2024, or will be very, very old. Good idea, but poorly executed. It was better than a poke in the eye with a stick.

Eh. He's not going to run for president. He knows it. I know it. He looks like the president on Nnamdi's wife's former show, except for he had a real affair. He has limited appeal.





We have a president that raw dogged porn stars while his wife was preggers. People don't care. And wasn't he cheating on Kimberly Guilfoyle? He'll get bonus points for that. I used to run with him back in the day when we were young in SF. I wouldn't underestimate him. He's sharp.
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It's so unbelievably shallow of me, but whenever Kimberly Guilfoyle is mentioned, all I can think of is, she had Gavin Newsom and now she has Donald Trump, Jr. I feel so bad for her, even if she maybe doesn't know enough to feel bad for herself. But when she gets together with her old girlfriends from high school or college, that's all they'll be thinking.
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Big C said:


It's so unbelievably shallow of me, but whenever Kimberly Guilfoyle is mentioned, all I can think of is, she had Gavin Newsom and now she has Donald Trump, Jr. I feel so bad for her, even if she maybe doesn't know enough to feel bad for herself. But when she gets together with her old girlfriends from high school or college, that's all they'll be thinking.

Believe me, she got what she deserves.
Yogi02
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Big C said:

Full disclosure: I am a moderate fan of Gavin Newsom, but... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Governor, say less, say it more clearly, use visuals as needed and please learn that, at least for now, California is not a "nation state". Good God, who wrote that speech for him?

Good idea, though. Trump has not made the kind of speech that people want and need to hear and Joe Biden will either not be around in 2024, or will be very, very old. Good idea, but poorly executed. It was better than a poke in the eye with a stick.
I still can't believe he's our governor. People in California have short memories.
sp4149
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Yes a Governor is making a big run for the Presidency right now, and he's a Democrat and his press conferences have forced The Grump to a later time spot to give America a chance to forget that an alternative exists. If Biden were to drop out, for whatever reason, Cuomo would win the nomination by acclamation right now. People will remember in 2024 as well. CNN is giving him a lot of air time, and not just appearances on his younger sibling's show. His early afternoon (morning Pacific time) daily press conferences are showing the leadership a politiician who pays attention, and listens, and relies on facts not fantasy, can provide. The contrast between Cuomo and The Grump is striking, night and day, competent and a tantrum. The Grump appears confused by Cuomo's blunt, factual delivery of the day's developments in the pandemic in NY.
wifeisafurd
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sp4149 said:

Yes a Governor is making a big run for the Presidency right now, and he's a Democrat and his press conferences have forced The Grump to a later time spot to give America a chance to forget that an alternative exists. If Biden were to drop out, for whatever reason, Cuomo would win the nomination by acclamation right now. People will remember in 2024 as well. CNN is giving him a lot of air time, and not just appearances on his younger sibling's show. His early afternoon (morning Pacific time) daily press conferences are showing the leadership a politiician who pays attention, and listens, and relies on facts not fantasy, can provide. The contrast between Cuomo and The Grump is striking, night and day, competent and a tantrum. The Grump appears confused by Cuomo's blunt, factual delivery of the day's developments in the pandemic in NY.
This is one of those where is the heart of the party going questions. Newsom clearly holds the views of the progressive wing of the party, where Cuomo is well, pragmatic. Both have some baggage like most politicians, Newsom's personal and at this juncture who cares? Cuomo has different issues like with the financial crises and some racial discrimination claims by his employees (which is like a death sentence in his party). I have been impressed by Newsom - initially thought he lacked substance. If Newsom was running against Cuomo in the future for the nomination, he takes him. Newsom already is where his party is going.
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