Lucas Lee said:

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Not gonna respond to a BearForce2 thread.



Already commented on this in other places, so not going to get into it here. But just want to comment on all of you who have been carrying Biden's water for the last three months.

At some point, don't you get tired of making excuses for this guy?

The election could be easily won by almost any other candidate. But you guys insist on defending this guy to the bitter end despite him being the Mary Sue of politics, having earned nothing, having proven himself wholly unfit for the office, Buttigieg and Klobuchar have to be so pissed that they were forced to withdraw for this clown.

I have no hesitation in saying that I'd vote for any of the other candidates without reservation in this year's primary. But this guy is just awful. You could win this election in a runaway with any other candidate, but instead you go to the mat for a guy who could blow what should be the easiest election to win since Nixon beat McGovern.

You say you want to defeat Trump no matter what, but really it's all about not wanting to admit you've been wrong about him this whole time. And you're willing to risk four more years of Trump to not have to say it.

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Lucas Lee said:

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He just lost the black vote with one comment.

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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It's truly insulting to try to discuss politics rationally with a plebe like you.

At this same date in 2016, Hillary had almost a 20 point lead over Trump. The notion that Biden can't possibly lose this is just laughably dumb.

https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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It's truly insulting to try to discuss politics rationally with a plebe like you.

At this same date in 2016, Hillary had almost a 20 point lead over Trump. The notion that Biden can't possibly lose this is just laughably dumb.

https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

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First of all, I specifically said that it could change. Second of all, you've misread your own chart. Hillary's 20 point lead was in June 2015, not 2016. Based on the averages, Biden's lead now is actually stronger than Hillary's at a similar point in time (June of the election year).

Who's a plebe now?

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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It's truly insulting to try to discuss politics rationally with a plebe like you.

At this same date in 2016, Hillary had almost a 20 point lead over Trump. The notion that Biden can't possibly lose this is just laughably dumb.

https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

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First of all, I specifically said that it could change. Second of all, you've misread your own chart. Hillary's 20 point lead was in June 2015, not 2016. Based on the averages, Biden's lead now is actually stronger than Hillary's at a similar point in time (June of the election year).

Who's a plebe now?

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You are for finding a mistake of commission and not bothering to include that the actual lead in June 2016 is about what it is now four years later for Biden.

But congrats to you. That's right up there with catching someone else's typo.

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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It's truly insulting to try to discuss politics rationally with a plebe like you.

At this same date in 2016, Hillary had almost a 20 point lead over Trump. The notion that Biden can't possibly lose this is just laughably dumb.

https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

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First of all, I specifically said that it could change. Second of all, you've misread your own chart. Hillary's 20 point lead was in June 2015, not 2016. Based on the averages, Biden's lead now is actually stronger than Hillary's at a similar point in time (June of the election year).

Who's a plebe now?

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You are for finding a mistake of commission and not bothering to include that the actual lead in June 2016 is about what it is now four years later for Biden.

But congrats to you. That's right up there with catching someone else's typo.

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Biden's lead is bigger than Hillary's. This race has also been much more stable than that one in the polling, AND Biden is actually above 50% in some polls.

Not denying that things can change between now and Election Day. But the situations are not analogous.

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BancroftBear93 said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Lucas Lee said:

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sycasey said:

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Things could certainly change, but Biden is solidly ahead at the moment.

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Four years later and you still have no idea of how to look intelligently at a poll.

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I'm sorry, is there some way to read these numbers as being bad for Biden? I'm all ears.

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Would this be a good time to remind you about how those 3 million popular votes didn't end up mattering?

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+7 points or more nationally would virtually guarantee a win for any candidate. No Electoral College advantage is that strong. That's the point being made here.

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It's truly insulting to try to discuss politics rationally with a plebe like you.

At this same date in 2016, Hillary had almost a 20 point lead over Trump. The notion that Biden can't possibly lose this is just laughably dumb.

https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

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First of all, I specifically said that it could change. Second of all, you've misread your own chart. Hillary's 20 point lead was in June 2015, not 2016. Based on the averages, Biden's lead now is actually stronger than Hillary's at a similar point in time (June of the election year).

Who's a plebe now?

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You are for finding a mistake of commission and not bothering to include that the actual lead in June 2016 is about what it is now four years later for Biden.

But congrats to you. That's right up there with catching someone else's typo.

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Biden's lead is bigger than Hillary's. This race has also been much more stable than that one in the polling, AND Biden is actually above 50% in some polls.

Not denying that things can change between now and pElection Day. But the situations are not analogous.

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Liberals and their polls. lol How'd that work out last time? Keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

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BancroftBear93 said:

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Don't get me wrong, I have no idea who will win. I just like to laugh at all of the supposed experts who are constantly wrong, yet so strident.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity

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Sebastabear said:

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BancroftBear93 said:

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Don't get me wrong, I have no idea who will win. I just like to laugh at all of the supposed experts who are constantly wrong, yet so strident.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity

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And the center cannot hold.

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BearForce2 said:

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