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    2017 Men's Swimming Recruits

    Quote Originally Posted by HBear View Post
    SwimSwam releasing its official top 20 recruits for the men's side -- https://swimswam.com/top-20-ncaa-swi...ol-class-2017/ with Ryan Hoffer at no. 1! Go bears!
    Quote Originally Posted by BearDevil View Post
    A class of Hofffer, Taylor, Sannen (Thomas/Jensen connection), Mefford, Julian, and a distance swimmer wouldn't exactly suck.

    Liang's sister swam for Princeton. He's probably going to LSJU.
    Here are some excerpts from the SwimSwam rankings article that HBear had referred to:

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    Top 20 NCAA Swimming Recruits In the Boys High School Class of 2017



    Top 10 Swimmers From The Class of 2017

    1. Ryan Hoffer – Scottsdale Aquatic Club – Chaparral High School – Scottsdale, AZ **Verbally committed to Cal**
    Best Times: 50 free – 19.06, 100 free – 41.23, 100 back – 45.58, 100 fly – 45.46, 200 free – 1:37.00

    Hoffer is a tailor-made NCAA blue chip recruit. Versatile sprinters hold tremendous value at the NCAA level, and Hoffer is the best recruit in that archetype since American record-holder Caeleb Dressel. Hoffer could swim fly, back or free to elite levels on medley relays. He’s in line to join the exclusive 18-second club in the 50 free. And he’s outstanding underwater, which is essential in college swimming’s short course format.



    2. Sean Grieshop – Nitro Swimming – St. Dominic Savio Catholic Sigh School – Austin, TX
    Best Times: 1650 free – 14:45.40, 500 free – 4:15.53, 400 IM – 3:44.30, 200 IM – 1:46.58, 200 free – 1:36.52, 200 breast – 1:58.85

    Right after our whole spiel about sprints over distance, and we’re ranking distance specialists at 2 and 3. But when your class features the junior world record-holder in the 400 IM (long course), you don’t sleep on him. Grieshop is already at NCAA scoring level in the mile and the 500 and extremely close in the 400 IM. Beyond that, he’s one of the class’s best 200 IMers and could still be a relay factor with some development in his 200 free.


    3. Matthew Hirschberger – Nation’s Capital Swim Club – Georgetown Prep – North Bethesda, MD **Verbally committed to Stanford**
    Best Times: 1650 free – 14:51.81, 500 free – 4:16.43, 200 free – 1:37.13

    Hirschberger isn’t as rangy or versatile as Grieshop, but is still a premier distance recruit. He’s at NCAA scoring level in the mile and 500 and comes out of the red-hot Nation’s Capital Club that has produced all sorts of NCAA and international studs. Hirschberger is also the third and last swimmer in the class with a time that would have scored at the 2016 NCAA meet – high school boys at that level are very rare compared to the girls side, which ups the value of this top three.


    4. Camden Murphy – Kingfish Aquatic Club of Waterford – Novi High School – Novi, MI **Verbally Committed to Georgia**
    Best Times: 100 fly – 46.25, 200 fly – 1:44.31, 100 back – 49.67

    Murphy is the class of 2017’s top pure butterflyer (counting Hoffer more as a freestyler/all-around sprinter). He also gets a bit of an elevated ranking because he’s also on an absurd improvement curve – over the 2015 calendar year, he dropped his 100 fly time from 48.89 to 46.25. His 200 has been even more insane: 1:51.02 down to 1:44.31. If his stock continues to skyrocket over his senior year, Murphy could rise as high as #2 in this class in terms of NCAA value.


    5. Michael Taylor – Dynamo Swim Club – Johns Creek High School – Alpharetta, GA
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:41.94, 100 back – 47.17, 200 free – 1:37.04, 100 free – 45.83, 50 free – 20.75, 100 fly – 48.50

    Based on pure short course times, Taylor should probably rank closer to 8 on this list. But he, like Camden Murphy, gets a “future projection” bump based on his lights-out swimming at U.S. Olympic Trials. Taylor dropped his long course backstroke times from 54.6 to 53.7 in the 100 and 1:58.1 to 1:56.7 in the 200, breaking a junior world record in the latter. If those improvements transfer over to short course, he could be nearly as good as NCAA champ Ryan Murphy was coming out of high school. (Murphy was 46.7/1:40.9 as a junior when we ranked him #2 in the class of 2013).


    6. Austin Katz – Sarasota YMCA Sharks – Riverview High School – Sarasota, FL
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:41.48, 100 back – 47.23, 200 free – 1:36.67, 100 free – 44.89

    Katz is actually faster than Taylor in three of his four main events, and if Taylor’s improvements don’t make the jump to the short pool, Katz will turn out to be the more valuable prospect. And Katz has his own impressive improvement curve: from April 2015 to April 2016 he dropped his 100 back from 48.28 to 47.23 and his 200 from 1:43.70 to 1:41.48. The only thing hurting that backstroke duo is how insane the backstrokes have become at the NCAA level. Call it the Murphy Effect: when a returning NCAA swimmer is going 1:35 in the 200 back, a 1:41 suddenly loses a little of its value.


    7. Grant House – Countryside YMCA – St. Xavier High School – Cincinnati, OH **Verbally committed to Arizona State**
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:35.28, 100 free – 44.26, 500 free – 4:22.96, 50 free – 20.96, 200 IM – 1:47.82, 400 IM – 3:53.08, 200 breast – 1:59.88

    Great range for Grant House, who has been tearing up the high school swimming scene in Ohio for several years. He’s got the class’s best 200 free and its third-best 100 free after Hoffer and Corban Rawls. He’ll be seen mostly as a 200 free/100 free guy to bolster relays, but he’s got intriguing IM and 200 breast talent as well. At the very least, that gives coaches flexibility with his tertiary event, and what coach doesn’t love a lineup with options?


    8. Jake Sannem – Upper Dublin Aquatic Club – La Salle College High School – Ambler, PA **Verbally committed to USC**
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:35.44, 500 free – 4:19.64, 100 free – 44.45, 50 free – 20.78

    Sannem has nice freestyle range through the relay distances, and he’s got the second-best 200 freestyle in the class. This class is stacked up with 100 freestylers in the 44-mid range, but if Sannem can improve his time and separate himself a bit from the class there, he could become the premier relay swimmer of the bunch not named Hoffer.


    9. Paul Delakis – Eau Claire YMCA Marlins – Eau Claire Memorial High School – Eau Claire, WI **Verbally committed to Ohio State**
    Best Times: 200 IM – 1:46.36, 400 IM – 3:48.35, 200 free – 1:36.10, 200 breast – 1:58.37, 100 breast – 54.81

    Delakis is the class’s best 200 IMer, and college coaches love the versatility of elite IMers. He’s also one of the better breaststrokers in the class and is sneaky-good at the 200 free for relay purposes. Keep an eye on his 400 IM, where he dropped from 3:53 to 3:48 in 2015.


    10. Christopher Yeager – Nitro Swimming – Fort Bend High School – Fort Bend, TX **Verbally Committed to Texas**
    Best Times: 1650 free – 14:55.04, 500 free – 4:24.39, 400 IM – 3:57.28

    Yeager is pretty much a one-trick pony in the distance races, but he’s also extremely close to NCAA scoring level as a high school junior in the mile, and NCAA points are NCAA points. He’s also dropped pretty consistently in the 1650: from 15:15 in 2014 to 14:56 in late 2015 to 14:55 earlier this year. Watch him for another drop at Winter Juniors in December, where he’s typically peaked in previous years.


    Honorable Mention (#11-20)

    11. Bryce Mefford – Sierra Marlins Swim Team – Oak Ridge High School – El Dorado Hills, CA
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:42.18, 100 back – 48.05, 200 free – 1:36.71, 100 free – 44.62, 200 IM – 1:48.59, 100 fly – 47.89


    12. Sam Pomajevich – Nation’s Capital Swim Club – Stonewall Jackson High School – Manassas, VA
    Best Times: 200 fly – 1:44.65, 100 fly – 47.99, 200 free – 1:36.87, 100 free – 44.78, 400 IM – 3:53.14


    13. Brennan Pastorek – Georgia Coastal Aquatic Team – Savannah Country Day – Savannah, GA
    Best Times: 100 breast – 54.29, 200 breast – 1:57.63, 200 IM – 1:47.98, 400 IM – 3:53.84


    14. Alex Liang – Palo Alto Stanford Aquatics – Palo Alto High School – Palo Alto, CA
    Best Times: 200 IM – 1:47.41, 400 IM – 3:51.40, 200 free – 1:36.65, 200 fly – 1:44.64, 100 fly – 48.29

    15. Trenton Julian – Rose Bowl Aquatics – Glendale High School – Glendale, CA
    Best Times: 200 free – 1:36.21, 100 fly – 47.88, 200 fly – 1:45.81, 200 IM – 1:48.71, 400 IM – 3:52.46


    16. Daniel Carr – Pikes Peak Athletics – Cheyenne Mountain High School – Colorado Springs, CO
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:43.38, 100 back – 48.10, 200 IM – 1:48.44, 400 IM – 3:53.36, 100 free – 44.67


    17. Michael Zarian – Jeffco Hurricanes – Fairview High School – Boulder, CO
    Best Times: 400 IM – 3:49.34, 200 IM – 1:47.69, 200 back – 1:46.67, 200 fly – 1:47.72


    18. Nicolas Albiero – Cardinal Aquatics – Christian Academy of Louisville – Louisville, KY **Verbally committed to Louisville**
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:45.54, 100 back – 48.21, 200 fly – 1:46.35, 100 fly – 47.63, 100 free – 44.52, 200 IM – 1:49.09


    19. Spencer Rowe – Nation’s Capital Swim Club – Patriot High School – Gainesville, VA
    Best Times: 100 breast – 54.30, 200 breast – 1:57.79


    20. Corban Rawls – Nitro Swim Club – Cedar Park, TX
    Best Times: 100 free – 44.15, 200 free – 1:37.02


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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-29-2016 at 11:13 AM. Reason: commitments updates

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    If Nort wants to add another breaststroker, Tanner Olson would work. Canyons Aquatic, same club as Abbey. Could bring Popov along too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearDevil View Post
    If Nort wants to add another breaststroker, Tanner Olson would work. Canyons Aquatic, same club as Abbey. Could bring Popov along too.
    Nort? I think your in wrong decade

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    After Dave's brill scoop with the very early verbal from #1 recruit Ryan Hoffer to Cal, guess Reese's answering shot is to try to recruit the #2 hometown distance/IM prospect (pictured here w/Will Licon, his former Nitro club mate):


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    Sean Grieshop: Rah Rah Ree- Kick 'em in the knee. Rah Rah Rass- Kick 'em in the other knee.



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    However, Hoffer is doing his loyal best to counteract that by posting this just now, in response :

    Ryan Hoffer: Missing my team USA boys! Hope college trips are going well!



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    #6 backstroker recruit Austin Katz was also in Austin (pun intended ) checking out the Horns' winning home opener v. Notre Dame:



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    Grieshop making his rounds, spotted @ Georgia today (9/11)



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    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-11-2016 at 03:17 PM. Reason: UGA visit

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbear View Post
    • (Not a women's swim team recruit, but) Sean Grieshop has visited UT, UGA, and now ASU. Was the UT football game our men's team's main recruiting weekend alongside the women's team's recruiting weekend?

    Not sure if that was Durden's main recruiting weekend (as it was for McKeever), but anyway here are some accompanying photos:

    Bob Bowman & Sean Grieshop




    The bloke in the blue Adidas cap (behind Courtney in the group photo w/Oski below, next to Valerie in the other one) is Spencer Farrar, a Soph transfer from UCLA's water polo team:

    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post


    As for the dudes, I spot baby Michael Jensen (#1 PA, #1 Nat, back in 2016) at the back row to our left, with 2017 commit Ryan Hoffer (#1 AZ, #1 Nat) in front of him. The guys to our right may be Daniel Carr (#1 CO, #21 Nat) {the blonde} ... Bryce Mefford (#1 CA, #6 Nat) ... + ??
    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post

    Val: it's game day in berkeley!!!!

    kt, Val & Spencer (UCLA transfer to Dave's team)

    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-28-2016 at 06:26 AM. Reason: photo

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    Jake Sannem (CollegeSwimming's #1 PA, #17 Nat ... SwimSwam's #8 Nat) -> Trojans



    UPDATE (SwimSwam): https://swimswam.com/8-jake-sannem-a...ommitment-usc/
    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-26-2016 at 08:24 PM. Reason: SwimSwam article

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    C'mon Michael (Taylor not Andrew the pro) & Austin (heck, Sean too), you know that you've always wanted to be a !!! (but we'll also very very happily welcome Bryce & Daniel to the fold when they announce their commitments )


    USA Swimming: There are currently 12 boys who will be 18 or younger next March who have swum a time that would have been invited to the 16 NCAA D1 Champs




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    btw, looks like NC State have already wrapped up their 2017 recruiting...bit of a tight budget this year, eh eh?? (said tongue-in-cheek, as they have actually received 7 verbals ) Also profuse apologies to this audience for the Wolfpack's excessive use of red below...

    Bobby Guntoro: BOOM.... Our men's class is COMPLETE!

    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-28-2016 at 11:14 AM. Reason: fixed link

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    * Daniel Carr * => Cal! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    16. Daniel Carr – Pikes Peak Athletics – Cheyenne Mountain High School – Colorado Springs, CO
    Best Times: 200 back – 1:43.38, 100 back – 48.10, 200 IM – 1:48.44, 400 IM – 3:53.36, 100 free – 44.67

    200 back is probably his best event at the moment, but could develop into a star in one of several different directions.
    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    we'll also very very happily welcome Bryce & Daniel to the fold when they announce their commitments )
    Woo, massive congrats and a bear-y big welcome to Daniel who has just announced his commitment to join the family in 2017!!!


    Daniel Carr: Thank you to everybody who has helped me on my journey to becoming a Cal Golden Bear! #gobears ��



    https://www.instagram.com/p/BK6-8ssh...0ak3h_R1zSnQ0/


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    UPDATE (SwimSwam): https://swimswam.com/16-daniel-carr-...-golden-bears/
    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-29-2016 at 10:53 AM. Reason: SwimSwam's writeup

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    I'm confuse but is Bryce Mefford in the fold too or is it wishful thinking?
    Last edited by OBear073akaSMFan; 09-28-2016 at 07:02 PM.

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    Perhaps a bit of both?

    Bryce visited during the home game v. the Horns.

    That's all the info that I currently have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbear View Post
    Keep that backstroke legacy rolling ....

    http://www.usaswimming.org/ViewNewsA...6019&mid=14491
    That's one of the reasons why I'm rooting hard for Michael Taylor, Austin Katz, and Bryce Mefford (Bryce's 200 back's almost as good as Michael's) to come on board! I'm sure that they look up to Murph & Pebs to some degree

    Though it wouldn't surprise me (too much) if Kredich is making some sort of play for Michael to become a Tenn Vol... Maybe UGA & Texas too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    That's one of the reasons why I'm rooting hard for Michael Taylor, Austin Katz, and Bryce Mefford (Bryce's 200 back's almost as good as Michael's) to come on board! I'm sure that they look up to Murph & Pebs to some degree

    Though it wouldn't surprise me (too much) if Kredich is making some sort of play for Michael to become a Tenn Vol... Maybe UGA & Texas too.
    You know, at the time when Murphy committed to Cal, there was a lot of internet gnashing of teeth, saying that he should have chosen Florida and the strong tradition of backstrokers that have trained there. Just some names of Gator backstrokers: Lochte, Beisel, Vyatchanin. It's true that at the time, Cal had not recently produced backstroke champions, although Pebley had just joined the team that Fall of 2012.

    Certainly, other coaches can say that they too can produce backstroke stars, but can they back up those words? I sometimes wonder what could have been with Jack Conger at Texas, and feel that his backstroke potential was squandered in favor of fly/free, despite Eddie Reese's past success with Aaron Peirsol. I have no idea who was UGA's last backstroke star on the men's side, although I suppose we'll have to see how Canada's Javier Acevedo develops in the coming year. Tennessee's Sean Lehane had a great college career and swam at Pan Ams last summer, but he has probably retired to focus on his budding finance career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbear View Post
    You know, at the time when Murphy committed to Cal, there was a lot of internet gnashing of teeth, saying that he should have chosen Florida and the strong tradition of backstrokers that have trained there. Just some names of Gator backstrokers: Lochte, Beisel, Vyatchanin. It's true that at the time, Cal had not recently produced backstroke champions, although Pebley had just joined the team that Fall of 2012.
    thanks goodness Ryan is smarter than the peanut gallery. He is a true student athlete choosing to go to the #1 public university and getting a degree from Haas school of Business.

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    Chris Yeager -> Horns

    Quote Originally Posted by UrsusArctosCalifornicus View Post
    10. Christopher Yeager – Nitro Swimming – Fort Bend High School – Fort Bend, TX
    Best Times: 1650 free – 14:55.04, 500 free – 4:24.39, 400 IM – 3:57.28

    Yeager is pretty much a one-trick pony in the distance races, but he’s also extremely close to NCAA scoring level as a high school junior in the mile, and NCAA points are NCAA points. He’s also dropped pretty consistently in the 1650: from 15:15 in 2014 to 14:56 in late 2015 to 14:55 earlier this year. Watch him for another drop at Winter Juniors in December, where he’s typically peaked in previous years.
    Chris Yeager: I'm super excited to announce my commitment to swim for the University of Texas. Hook 'em!!




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    UPDATE (SwimSwam): https://swimswam.com/verbal-chris-ye...recruit-state/
    Last edited by UrsusArctosCalifornicus; 09-29-2016 at 10:54 AM. Reason: SwimSwam



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