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Thread: OMG: Derrick Rose 90% paycut to join Lebron's superteam

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    OMG: Derrick Rose 90% paycut to join Lebron's superteam

    Wow! Former league MVP Rose played for the Knicks last season for $21.32M. He just signed a veterans minimum salary of $2.1 million with the Cavs.

    His agent is BJ Armstrong. Who else thinks he's telling his client, "Yo, drop the salary and try and grab a ring. The aura of that winning 'legacy' will carry you further in life than one year of salary loss!"

    This is exactly what I said would happen more and more, (endorsements income exceeding marginal salary loss) and threatens to blow up the league's wish for parity thru strict salary cap rules.
    Last edited by concordtom; 07-25-2017 at 07:18 AM.

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    Now Lebron can trade Kyrie for whatever other piece he thinks the Cavs need. Maybe he should trade Love, too.

    Could be an exciting 2018 rematch finals battle after all!

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    Derrick Rose is no Kyrie Irving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB54 View Post
    Derrick Rose is no Kyrie Irving.
    That may be true, but with the $$ the Cavs save ($18.9M vs. $2.1M next year), they can probably pull in another better than decent star to bolster their roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85Bear View Post
    That may be true, but with the $$ the Cavs save ($18.9M vs. $2.1M next year), they can probably pull in another better than decent star to bolster their roster.
    They are so far over the cap/luxury tax, and they're already at 15 players. Looks like they have a 2.5M exception left, if they wanted to cut someone. But they're not getting a better than decent star at that amount.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmastapoop View Post
    They are so far over the cap/luxury tax, and they're already at 15 players. Looks like they have a 2.5M exception left, if they wanted to cut someone. But they're not getting a better than decent star at that amount.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/
    Rose's role will take spot of Deron Williams.... backup PG minutes... Luckily for Rose, he signed his sweetheart shoe contract with Adidas before he got hurt....and has not been able to get near his MVP skill level since then..

    Good move for Rose to get back in spotlight... (did you ever watch JR Smith or Iman Shumpart when they were with Knicks??) and see if he can lock up better deal come 2018 summer.

    goGSW

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    I'm thinking Kyrie to the Suns for a package including Bledsoe. Players just drafted can't get traded until December 15 so Kyrie may have to stick around in Cleveland for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmastapoop View Post
    They are so far over the cap/luxury tax, and they're already at 15 players. Looks like they have a 2.5M exception left, if they wanted to cut someone. But they're not getting a better than decent star at that amount.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/
    I'm totally uneducated on the intricacies of the NBA salary rules so I stand corrected. I guess the Cavs mgmt can save the $$ for future moves then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobears View Post
    Rose's role will take spot of Deron Williams.... backup PG minutes... Luckily for Rose, he signed his sweetheart shoe contract with Adidas before he got hurt....and has not been able to get near his MVP skill level since then..

    Good move for Rose to get back in spotlight... (did you ever watch JR Smith or Iman Shumpart when they were with Knicks??) and see if he can lock up better deal come 2018 summer.

    goGSW
    Uh, wouldn't Rose be the starting PG after Cavs trade Kyrie for someone else?
    What positions do they need upgrades to, in order to bear the W's?
    Who can the Cavs realistically get in return?

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    If Cavs trade Irving, they must take back equal salary per NBA trade guidelines. They won't be banking anything, reducing luxury cap exposure, etc. with this. The reasons the timing is so poor for Cleveland:

    1. Trade for Irving must be roughly equal from a salary perspective. With all teams close to complete for this upcoming season, a sign and trade contingency can't be used.
    2. None of the free agents already signed this offseason can be included in a trade until December. This takes Minnesota out of the running for example (after signing Jeff Teague to play point guard a few weeks ago) unless they choose to have/pay 2 starting point guards.
    3. Cavs need to take back roughly $19 million in salary, and optimally have their point guard of the future included.


    Quote Originally Posted by 85Bear View Post
    That may be true, but with the $$ the Cavs save ($18.9M vs. $2.1M next year), they can probably pull in another better than decent star to bolster their roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan View Post
    If Cavs trade Irving, they must take back equal salary per NBA trade guidelines. They won't be banking anything, reducing luxury cap exposure, etc. with this. The reasons the timing is so poor for Cleveland:

    1. Trade for Irving must be roughly equal from a salary perspective. With all teams close to complete for this upcoming season, a sign and trade contingency can't be used.
    2. None of the free agents already signed this offseason can be included in a trade until December. This takes Minnesota out of the running for example (after signing Jeff Teague to play point guard a few weeks ago) unless they choose to have/pay 2 starting point guards.
    3. Cavs need to take back roughly $19 million in salary, and optimally have their point guard of the future included.
    Exactly.

    If Irving is traded, the Cavs have almost zero chance. There's no one on the trade market good enough to make the Cavs competitive (against the dubs) without Irving.

    If Irving stays, Rose will add much needed depth that the Cavs sorely lacked against the Dubs last year.

    Regardless, the writing is on the wall. This is the last gasp for the Cavs and if they don't win next year, they'll probably have to wait another 100 years for their next title.

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    Some ESPN guy tweeted that the Suns would consider dealing Bledsoe, Josh Jackson, and some picks to Cleveland for Kyrie. That obviously couldn't happen immediately, since Jackson was just drafted, but the Cavs would have to consider this, if true. It's likely the best deal they could get. Would it be enough to get past the Dubs? Probably not until Jackson got more seasoning, which would mean Lebron would have to stay beyond this season.

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    When will the League write rules disallowing stars accepting far below market salaries designed to create SuperTeams?

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