Our recruiting efforts have digress tremendously ever since Coach Tedford left. I acknowledge that there were 4-5 star recruits part of dykes, Wilcox era. However, I think the issue is the position coaches. Additionally, not recruiting and winning local players in the bayarea ( Fairfield, Vacaville, Sacramento, San Francisco, pittsburg, concord etc..) these are just some cities that have great high school programs. We need to focus our efforts in these location. Hell , Start looking way north towards eureka! Towards wine country, Napa! My commas may be misplaced but my assessment of Cals second, third string players show below average talent.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Southern California is definitely where the majority of the top recruits are in the state. Only about 10 Northern CA players in 2021 were apart of CA's top 50 (bar a couple of players from towns that I wasn't quite sure where they were in CA) and we landed a good number of those guys. Recruiting in SoCal needs to be a focus. I also think Texas produces a lot of top talent and has been good to us in the past. There are certain guys in the South who may be very good players but also interested in top educations like a Drob.
It starts with areas that value fb. The parents want it. The kids want it. The businesses want it...and will support it financially and otherwise. That sound like NoCal to you? Me either. It has ever been thus.ARbear said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Southern California is definitely where the majority of the top recruits are in the state. Only about 10 Northern CA players in 2021 were apart of CA's top 50 (bar a couple of players from towns that I wasn't quite sure where they were in CA) and we landed a good number of those guys. Recruiting in SoCal needs to be a focus. I also think Texas produces a lot of top talent and has been good to us in the past. There are certain guys in the South who may be very good players but also interested in top educations like a Drob.
NoCal will always produce a certain number of 4/5*s, but not to the extent of SoCal, TX, etc. NoCal has good hs fb, but not top level. Especially when it comes to hitting. Watch a TX 6* hs game.
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
There isn't a traditionally big football HS in SoCal that Wilcox has not landed a player from...more or less in NorCal as well. Can't really complain about Texas either, they have gotten solid players-I mean, the very elite are going to be a hard pull from UT, A-M, and in east Texas, from LSU.ARbear said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Southern California is definitely where the majority of the top recruits are in the state. Only about 10 Northern CA players in 2021 were apart of CA's top 50 (bar a couple of players from towns that I wasn't quite sure where they were in CA) and we landed a good number of those guys. Recruiting in SoCal needs to be a focus. I also think Texas produces a lot of top talent and has been good to us in the past. There are certain guys in the South who may be very good players but also interested in top educations like a Drob.
I think it's still a combination of missing out on a few of the better players, especially in the O-line, and, clearly this year, just decent development once a player has been in the program 3-4 years.
Key word there: "combination"....all the Cal message boards are filled with posts trying to identify singular "missing bullets" in this, so far, nightmare season....
Absolutely, SoCal is the key area for us to recruit but we also need to get the top locals (like Marshawn) when they are there. We've never gotten the best guys out of DeLaSalle. Joe Mixon goes to OU, Najee Harris to 'Bama and the tight end from Napa is at UGA. This kind of leakage is happening all across the Pac12 territory. During the PSU/IA game the announcers spoke of the reason Iowa's QB matriculated from San Rafael to Iowa City. In a word, atmosphere. He stated there is nothing like a Big 10 stadium environment anywhere on the west coast. That was dramatically brought home comparing the full house, black and gold and full throated scene in Kinnick to the sparsely populated LA Mausoleum in which Utah beat USC. I've often said Cal's problems are rooted in general apathy within the Cal community. I might now be inclined to expand that to include the entire conference.Dduster said:
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
Good post, Wang24......Wang24 said:
Our recruiting efforts have digress tremendously ever since Coach Tedford left. I acknowledge that there were 4-5 star recruits part of dykes, Wilcox era. However, I think the issue is the position coaches. Additionally, not recruiting and winning local players in the bayarea ( Fairfield, Vacaville, Sacramento, San Francisco, pittsburg, concord etc..) these are just some cities that have great high school programs. We need to focus our efforts in these location. Hell , Start looking way north towards eureka! Towards wine country, Napa! My commas may be misplaced but my assessment of Cals second, third string players show below average talent.
Not sure this is any consolation, but the two Pac teams down here in SoCal are missing on the top recruits as well, who are going to schools in the SEC, Clemson and TOSU. It is a conference wide issue, which the Alliance clearly will cure.59bear said:Absolutely, SoCal is the key area for us to recruit but we also need to get the top locals (like Marshawn) when they are there. We've never gotten the best guys out of DeLaSalle. Joe Mixon goes to OU, Najee Harris to 'Bama and the tight end from Napa is at UGA. This kind of leakage is happening all across the Pac12 territory. During the PSU/IA game the announcers spoke of the reason Iowa's QB matriculated from San Rafael to Iowa City. In a word, atmosphere. He stated there is nothing like a Big 10 stadium environment anywhere on the west coast. That was dramatically brought home comparing the full house, black and gold and full throated scene in Kinnick to the sparsely populated LA Mausoleum in which Utah beat USC. I've often said Cal's problems are rooted in general apathy within the Cal community. I might now be inclined to expand that to include the entire conference.Dduster said:
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
The SC thing is a little more nuanced. SC alums are not happy with the athletics program, and all you have to do is mention a sport, and they will go off. However, If Cal had the repetitive scandals that USC has endured in both athletics and on campus, no one here would be supporting their school in athletics or on campus, and that seems to be the case with the SC folks I know.
CT has 3.3 million people. It turns out maybe one 4 star player a year, in a good year.Dduster said:
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
Like Goff, Iowa's Spencer Petras is Marin Catholic grad. In fact, he broke several of Goff's record while at MC.59bear said:Absolutely, SoCal is the key area for us to recruit but we also need to get the top locals (like Marshawn) when they are there. We've never gotten the best guys out of DeLaSalle. Joe Mixon goes to OU, Najee Harris to 'Bama and the tight end from Napa is at UGA. This kind of leakage is happening all across the Pac12 territory. During the PSU/IA game the announcers spoke of the reason Iowa's QB matriculated from San Rafael to Iowa City. In a word, atmosphere. He stated there is nothing like a Big 10 stadium environment anywhere on the west coast. That was dramatically brought home comparing the full house, black and gold and full throated scene in Kinnick to the sparsely populated LA Mausoleum in which Utah beat USC. I've often said Cal's problems are rooted in general apathy within the Cal community. I might now be inclined to expand that to include the entire conference.Dduster said:
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
The "nationalization" of college football has been the #1 reason the for the downfall of the P12. Why stay here when you can go elsewhere and play before packed stadiums on national TV.
That is not going to change. The respective motto's of the SEC and the P12 summarize the current state of affairs quite nicely…. (parenthesis added)
SEC - (Football) It just means more
PAC-12 - Conference of (Olympic Sports) Champions
What '71 said...71Bear said:Like Goff, Iowa's Spencer Petras is Marin Catholic grad. In fact, he broke several of Goff's record while at MC.59bear said:Absolutely, SoCal is the key area for us to recruit but we also need to get the top locals (like Marshawn) when they are there. We've never gotten the best guys out of DeLaSalle. Joe Mixon goes to OU, Najee Harris to 'Bama and the tight end from Napa is at UGA. This kind of leakage is happening all across the Pac12 territory. During the PSU/IA game the announcers spoke of the reason Iowa's QB matriculated from San Rafael to Iowa City. In a word, atmosphere. He stated there is nothing like a Big 10 stadium environment anywhere on the west coast. That was dramatically brought home comparing the full house, black and gold and full throated scene in Kinnick to the sparsely populated LA Mausoleum in which Utah beat USC. I've often said Cal's problems are rooted in general apathy within the Cal community. I might now be inclined to expand that to include the entire conference.Dduster said:
It's numbers folks. You people live in California? The population is concentrated in So Cal. More people, more high schools, more athletes. Get the connection?
The "nationalization" of college football has been the #1 reason the for the downfall of the P12. Why stay here when you can go elsewhere and play before packed stadiums on national TV.
That is not going to change. The respective motto's of the SEC and the P12 summarize the current state of affairs quite nicely…. (parenthesis added)
SEC - (Football) It just means more
PAC-12 - Conference of (Olympic Sports) Champions
Amen. That's why I've never understood the "recruit the Bay harder" idea. Makes no sense
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