New Field Design & Possible Branding Implications

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3:05p, 2/11/23
Maybe I'm just being hopeful but this could signal that the powers that be are ready to embrace our original and more powerful team branding:
The University of California
California
Cal

At the very least it means there's no current plan to re-brand athletics under the weaker Berkeley/Cal-Berkeley/UC Berkeley umbrella. Or I'm just reading too deeply into this and all it means is a new end zone and sideline design since the end zones already said "California" it was just previously in the block lettering. Regardless I'm a big fan of the gold end zones with the script California and the home sideline with "The University of California" stencil. As always the script Cal at centerfield is great, I wouldn't mind seeing the block 'C' there for the Joe Roth game and maybe the triple stripe in the end zones for that game at least but that might just be me
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In reply to Bearly Clad • 3:23p, 2/11/23
Bearly Clad said:
Maybe I'm just being hopeful but this could signal that the powers that be are ready to embrace our original and more powerful team branding:
The University of California
California
Cal

At the very least it means there's no current plan to re-brand athletics under the weaker Berkeley/Cal-Berkeley/UC Berkeley umbrella. Or I'm just reading too deeply into this and all it means is a new end zone and sideline design since the end zones already said "California" it was just previously in the block lettering. Regardless I'm a big fan of the gold end zones with the script California and the home sideline with "The University of California" stencil. As always the script Cal at centerfield is great, I wouldn't mind seeing the block 'C' there for the Joe Roth game and maybe the triple stripe in the end zones for that game at least but that might just be me


I like that gold!
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3:41p, 2/11/23
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?
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In reply to ColoradoBear • 5:50p, 2/11/23
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Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?

What makes script 'California' hideous and how is it out of proportion to the size of the end zone?
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5:55p, 2/11/23
The size is proportional to our scoring.
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In reply to Bobodeluxe • 7:49p, 2/11/23
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The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.
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In reply to Strykur • 8:12p, 2/11/23
Strykur said:
Bobodeluxe said:
The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.


Can we just go yellow on the entire field like Boise and wear yellow at home?
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8:22p, 2/11/23
I'm with the original poster that perhaps this is a signal that California/Cal will remain as the identity of football. That said, I think the end zone lettering could have been larger.
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8:25p, 2/11/23
Looks great!
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In reply to Strykur • 8:42p, 2/11/23
Strykur said:
Bobodeluxe said:
The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.
Just a guess but I think since the sideline is navy blue and the center logo is in gold that the look just had a better balance with a gold end zone and blue script Cal than vice versa
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8:55p, 2/11/23
I was hoping for a return to traditional Golden Basar.
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8:57p, 2/11/23
ODE BESAR!

(Anyone remember that?)
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In reply to bluehenbear • 9:01p, 2/11/23
bluehenbear said:
ODE BESAR!

(Anyone remember that?)
That's right.

When men were men.
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In reply to Cal_79 • 6:19a, 2/12/23
Cal_79 said:
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?

What makes script 'California' hideous and how is it out of proportion to the size of the end zone?


Those were my first thoughts
But the more I looked at the design I have come to like the changes for some of the reasons stated by other posters

1. It keeps the traditional script "Cal" at the center of attention. And reaffirms our copyrighted name.

2. It keeps the name "California" clearly as our name not Berkeley or UC Berkeley

3. The script "California" and script "Cal" sticks it in the face of UCLA that the script Cal was OUR concept

4. The size of "California" could not have been made larger without using block letters. Otherwise the Script California would have looked out of proportion to the long rectangle that is the end zone. It could not have been made much larger without bumping into the the top border because of the capital "C".
It could not been made much longer without looking ridiculous.

5. The gold end zone:
A. takes some getting used to.
B But makes the blue California stand out.
C. Is kind of unique.
D. Allows us to think of "striking gold" each time we get a TD by on "entering the Gold Zone".
(Maybe Joe Starkey would let us use his catch phrase "what a bonanza" for some minimal agreed compensation.)

6. Finally, I like the use of the color gold not yellow.


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In reply to GivemTheAxe • 6:31a, 2/12/23
GivemTheAxe said:
Cal_79 said:
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?

What makes script 'California' hideous and how is it out of proportion to the size of the end zone?


Those were my first thoughts
But the more I looked at the design I have come to like the changes for some of the reasons stated by other posters

1. It keeps the traditional script "Cal" at the center of attention. And reaffirms our copyrighted name.

2. It keeps the name "California" clearly as our name not Berkeley or UC Berkeley

3. The script "California" and script "Cal" sticks it in the face of UCLA that the script Cal was OUR concept

4. The size of "California" could not have been made larger without using block letters. Otherwise the Script California would have looked out of proportion to the long rectangle that is the end zone. It could not have been made much larger without bumping into the the top border because of the capital "C".
It could not been made much longer without looking ridiculous.

5. The gold end zone:
A. takes some getting used to.
B But makes the blue California stand out.
C. Is kind of unique.
D. Allows us to think of "striking gold" each time we get a TD by on "entering the Gold Zone".
(Maybe Joe Starkey would let us use his catch phrase "what a bonanza" for some minimal agreed compensation.)

6. Finally I like the use of the color gold not yellow.

7. I forgot to mention the "The University of California" stencil. I would prefer "THE University of California". But I will accept "The University of California"


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In reply to ColoradoBear • 7:21a, 2/12/23
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?
And that's why you aren't a graphic designer...LOL
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9:07a, 2/12/23
They're putting a picture of Marshawn driving the golf cart between of and California...
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In reply to 89Bear • 9:23a, 2/12/23
89Bear said:
They're putting a picture of Marshawn driving the golf cart between of and California...


Or sliding the California to the left and adding Berkeley at the end.
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In reply to matteye • 9:37a, 2/12/23
matteye said:
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?
And that's why you aren't a graphic designer...LOL


So you like slapping a stock logo down (one that has been around for a few decades, but was only prominently used by our former apparel provider UA) that isn't proportional to the size of the end zone?

Someone said this elsewhere, but maybe they will add something more to all that dead space.

I do like California in both endzones - seems more important to promote that than Golden Bears. (I also think the script golden bear logo used on our old uniforms is hideous).

Script Cal is beautiful and right sized for a circular or square sized space - like the center of field, a hat, or on a shirt. You don't see a lot of Script California shirts out there.

As for why I don't like script California, it looks very unbalanced with the f being particilularly weird, just like script Ucla looks unbalanced due to the order and height of the lowecase - script Cal is obviously not symmetrical, but does seems balanced with the lowercase 'L' being tall like the C.
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10:01a, 2/12/23
Post game show late in 2023 season:

Pat Pawlowski: I've talked with most of the wide receivers and yes it seems some of the drops were due to the high contrast color change of the end zones.
Ever hopeful and it seems like forever.
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In reply to ColoradoBear • 12:02p, 2/12/23
ColoradoBear said:



So you like slapping a stock logo down (one that has been around for a few decades, but was only prominently used by our former apparel provider UA) that isn't proportional to the size of the end zone?
Yeah these were so much better:

Previous end zones with unnaturally expanded kerning:


Previous end zones with fills (and arguably unnaturally compressed kerning):


Hideous font with oversized characters:


The script California is traditional and beautiful. It can't be made bigger given the space constraints. End fills or not, this is a huge upgrade over what we've had.

Note that even the UA custom block end zones had end fills and they were larger than the areas for the script. The expanded kerning generic block characters and outlined characters are both hideous.

I'd love to see flag bears as fills, or flag bears and axes.
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In reply to ColoradoBear • 12:26p, 2/12/23
Screw the Yellow! How about some real Gold and real Grass.
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In reply to WalterSobchak • 1:04p, 2/12/23
WalterSobchak said:
ColoradoBear said:



So you like slapping a stock logo down (one that has been around for a few decades, but was only prominently used by our former apparel provider UA) that isn't proportional to the size of the end zone?
Yeah these were so much better:

Previous end zones with unnaturally expanded kerning:


Previous end zones with fills (and arguably unnaturally compressed kerning):


Hideous font with oversized characters:


The script California is traditional and beautiful. It can't be made bigger given the space constraints. End fills or not, this is a huge upgrade over what we've had.

Note that even the UA custom block end zones had end fills and they were larger than the areas for the script. The expanded kerning generic block characters and outlined characters are both hideous.

I'd love to see flag bears as fills, or flag bears and axes.


I think the bear is best as it also aligns with our state flag…hello! Having the bear with a horizontal bar also in blue would be terrific but I would be happier with only the bear
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2:30p, 2/12/23

Let's take back the name and own it:

B E R K E L E Y !


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2:59p, 2/12/23
Anyone know what type of artificial turf the new field is?
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In reply to Strykur • 3:04p, 2/12/23
Strykur said:
Bobodeluxe said:
The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.
Agree. I would like the endzones blue with gold script. The gold endzones look a bit jarring and pop out a bit much.
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In reply to OneTopOneChickenApple • 3:18p, 2/12/23
OneTopOneChickenApple said:
Strykur said:
Bobodeluxe said:
The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.
Agree. I would like the endzones blue with gold script. The gold endzones look a bit jarring and pop out a bit much.

Perhaps being distinctive and "popping out" is by design. I like the look.
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In reply to Cal_79 • 5:30p, 2/12/23
Cal_79 said:
OneTopOneChickenApple said:
Strykur said:
Bobodeluxe said:
The size is proportional to our scoring.


It looks good but why the inverted colors dammit.
Agree. I would like the endzones blue with gold script. The gold endzones look a bit jarring and pop out a bit much.

Perhaps being distinctive and "popping out" is by design. I like the look.


Same. It seems intentional.
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In reply to Big C • 5:49p, 2/12/23
Big C said:

Let's take back the name and own it:

B E R K E L E Y !




Yes!
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In reply to WalterSobchak • 9:08p, 2/12/23
WalterSobchak said:
ColoradoBear said:



So you like slapping a stock logo down (one that has been around for a few decades, but was only prominently used by our former apparel provider UA) that isn't proportional to the size of the end zone?
Yeah these were so much better:

Previous end zones with unnaturally expanded kerning:


Previous end zones with fills (and arguably unnaturally compressed kerning):


Hideous font with oversized characters:


The script California is traditional and beautiful. It can't be made bigger given the space constraints. End fills or not, this is a huge upgrade over what we've had.

Note that even the UA custom block end zones had end fills and they were larger than the areas for the script. The expanded kerning generic block characters and outlined characters are both hideous.

I'd love to see flag bears as fills, or flag bears and axes.


By flag bears I assume you mean the walking bear on the California State flag.
If you do then I agree. That would be the only change I would want in the propose design. But only if that does not make the end zone too cluttered
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9:58a, 2/13/23
I like it; script Cal is us!!
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In reply to 76BearsFly • 6:34p, 2/13/23
76BearsFly said:
I like it; script Cal is us!!

To me it appears that the people in charge have been reading the many posts on this Board.
1. Script Cal is us. CHECK
2. California vs Berkeley. CHECK
3. The University of California. CHECK
4. Gold vs Yellow. CHECK
4. Let's make a statement without going Boise State
wild. CHECK. (SOLID GOLD END ZONES.)

Now MicMen. Let's bring back some of the old cheers beginning with the CALIFORNIA Spell-out "C-A-L-I-F-O-R-NIA"
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In reply to GivemTheAxe • 7:42p, 2/13/23
Yes exactly, this guy:


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In reply to Cal_79 • 9:16p, 2/13/23
Cal_79 said:
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?

What makes script 'California' hideous and how is it out of proportion to the size of the end zone?


Endzone large. Letters little.
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In reply to LunchTime • 9:45p, 2/13/23
LunchTime said:
Cal_79 said:
ColoradoBear said:
Script full 'California' is kinda hideous and on top of that out of proportion to the size of the endzone.

But good bye to UA and the Sather Stripe. Did we get a nice multi million dollar parting gift?

What makes script 'California' hideous and how is it out of proportion to the size of the end zone?


Endzone large. Letters little.

The graphic looks balanced to fit the dimensions of the endzone. What's your point?
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