socaliganbear said:
Sounds about right for year 7 in your tenure. We're building something big.
Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
both madison and liberty are good teams. people on the west coast just don't talk about them.StillNoStanfurdium said:
While we're discussing random rankings, if you go by the Colley Index we're #52 and above #54 LSU, #55 Clemson, #60 Auburn, #61 Florida, #62 TCU, Though notably we are behind #16 James Madison and #18 Liberty.
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
That is not false. There have been plenty of posts that espouse that sentimentoski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
You said that if you expressed negativity than you are accused here of not being a true fan. That's blatantly false.
Quote:
Be a Cal fan, or don't. You remain just that - a fan. I for one will continue to support the Cal Bears - both as a fan and through donations to the sports programs I follow and to their NIL funds. And I will enjoy the player development of each young athlete who puts on the Blue and Gold. Take your negativity elsewhere.
I don't think expressing some truth isn't "exaggerated negativity". And its not hyperbole to suggest or predict that we will likely go 4-8 - tops. Some posters come on here and complain about the crowd, the start times of the games, donate, and do what "true Cal fans" do. Isn't that hyperbole as well?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
You said that if you expressed negativity than you are accused here of not being a true fan. That's blatantly false. I am merely pointing out the difference between expressing any negativity and constantly expressing exaggerated negativity such as saying 'Wilcox is as terrible as a HC as ever.'. Get it? You seem to post hyperbole regularly.
Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Cal88 said:
We're #43 in ESPN's power index ranking, smack in the middle of the 35 to 50 estimate.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi
I certainly am pumped!DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
philly1121 said:I don't think expressing some truth isn't "exaggerated negativity". And its not hyperbole to suggest or predict that we will likely go 4-8 - tops. Some posters come on here and complain about the crowd, the start times of the games, donate, and do what "true Cal fans" do. Isn't that hyperbole as well?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
You said that if you expressed negativity than you are accused here of not being a true fan. That's blatantly false. I am merely pointing out the difference between expressing any negativity and constantly expressing exaggerated negativity such as saying 'Wilcox is as terrible as a HC as ever.'. Get it? You seem to post hyperbole regularly.
DoubtfulBear said:That is not false. There have been plenty of posts that espouse that sentimentoski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
You said that if you expressed negativity than you are accused here of not being a true fan. That's blatantly false.Quote:
Be a Cal fan, or don't. You remain just that - a fan. I for one will continue to support the Cal Bears - both as a fan and through donations to the sports programs I follow and to their NIL funds. And I will enjoy the player development of each young athlete who puts on the Blue and Gold. Take your negativity elsewhere.
DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Oakbear said:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-moves-past-georgia-no-103548811.html
so much for our being a 35-50 best team in the country ..
Given the job security he gave jw, not hard to blame, but then i blame christ for the ad, the finger pointing gets tiring. Lolcalbear80 said:Oakbear said:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-moves-past-georgia-no-103548811.html
so much for our being a 35-50 best team in the country ..
I blame the AD.
Go Bears!
Sorry I hurt your fragile feelings, maybe you'll feel better with some warm milk and cookiesoski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:That is not false. There have been plenty of posts that espouse that sentimentoski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Who are you talking about? I've been consistently predicting a 3-9 or 4-8 season since early into the off season. You perceive my posts as negative, but have any of my points been proven wrong?oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
Wilcox is as terrible of a HC as ever. SJV is not the second coming of Kyler Murray. Spav can't magically turn the offense into the 2017 Cal offense. Our portal acquisitions did not in fact move the needle given the improvements across all other PAC programs.
You said that if you expressed negativity than you are accused here of not being a true fan. That's blatantly false.Quote:
Be a Cal fan, or don't. You remain just that - a fan. I for one will continue to support the Cal Bears - both as a fan and through donations to the sports programs I follow and to their NIL funds. And I will enjoy the player development of each young athlete who puts on the Blue and Gold. Take your negativity elsewhere.
Not in response to "any negativity.".
The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
On a spectrum between joining the B1G and joining the MWC, our pathetic 30% share in the ACC is much closer to the latter than the former.sycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
I didn't really have to stalk, as you claimed repeatedly that Cal would not get into another major conference. It's okay to admit you were wrong about that. It doesn't mean all our problems are solved.
DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
DoubtfulBear said:On a spectrum between joining the B1G and joining the MWC, our pathetic 30% share in the ACC is much closer to the latter than the former.sycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
I didn't really have to stalk, as you claimed repeatedly that Cal would not get into another major conference. It's okay to admit you were wrong about that. It doesn't mean all our problems are solved.
Being delusional about the state of our program seems to be your schtick. Must be nice to ignore all facts and cling to false hope that never materializes.oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
He probably only looked for a few minutes. Your posts are full of inaccuracies and exaggerations. It seems to be your schtick. Anyway, Go Bears.
Being in a conference with regional teams and some of the best programs in college football is a far cry from being in a conference 3 time zones away with the top programs desperately trying to get out. I am wrong because reality is only 10% better than the worst possible outcome?sycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:On a spectrum between joining the B1G and joining the MWC, our pathetic 30% share in the ACC is much closer to the latter than the former.sycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:The Titanic is sinking and you're here arguing with me over the shape of the iceberg. Find a better hobby than stalking my post history looking for gotchassycasey said:DoubtfulBear said:Oh wow, we were dragged by Stanford to join a dead man's walking conference on the other side of the countyr at 30% share! What an accomplishment, clearly I was way off the mark!sycasey said:Don't forget his repeated predictions that Cal would not be invited by another major conference after the Pac-12 collapsed!oski003 said:DoubtfulBear said:Meanwhile you should always attend every game, donate to the athletic program, and if you express any negativity then you are not a true Cal fan!PtownBear1 said:
Maybe one day Cal will have the resources of those powerhouse programs like Oregon State, Washington State, Duke, Fresno State, etc. but until then, we should be celebrating 70th place and 3 to 5 win Wilcox seasons. At least, that's what I keep reading on this Board!
Are you referring to expressing exaggerated negativity on an hourly basis? Who was it that said we likely won't win another game prior to beating ASU?
If you said we wouldn't get invited at all, then yes you were.
I didn't really have to stalk, as you claimed repeatedly that Cal would not get into another major conference. It's okay to admit you were wrong about that. It doesn't mean all our problems are solved.
We likely would have had a similarly reduced share in the B1G if we'd gotten in there. Regardless, you thought we'd have no spot in the power conferences and actually we do. You were wrong.
