I just read that Stanford students will receive free tickets to their home football games. All they have to do is show their student ID. Their student Big Game tickets are allocated according to their attendance to regular home games. Why does CAL not offer free student tickets????

HateRed said:

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I just read that Stanford students will receive free tickets to their home football games. All they have to do is show their student ID. Their student Big Game tickets are allocated according to their attendance to regular home games. Why does CAL not offer free student tickets????

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They are going places, we are stuck in bureaucracy with zero innovation.

We should definitely be giving out free student tickets but stanford has been doing that for decades and still don't have anyone show up. This isn't an innovation or them "moving forward". I used to go to games (always rooting for lsju to lose) with my brother. He'd go in and toss his ID over the fence to me and then I'd go in since you're allowed to leave the game to tailgates and go back in. There was always room in the stands

HateRed said:

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I just read that Stanford students will receive free tickets to their home football games. All they have to do is show their student ID. Their student Big Game tickets are allocated according to their attendance to regular home games. Why does CAL not offer free student tickets????

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Knowlton. We need a change

Go Bears!

Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

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That would assume they would even show up, even for free we maybe get half, perhaps a third of the students as-is.

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

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while eliminating the need for tarps, increasing excitement, building a big home field advantage with more wins and raising demand for the pricey seats on the west side.

Not every CAL student is a football fan. Offer free tickets to students and those that show up, show up and those that don't, don't.

HateRed said:

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Not every CAL student is a football fan. Offer free tickets to students and those that show up, show up and those that don't, don't.

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Of course, but as more students go to games it becomes more "the thing to do" on a Saturday with more students attending out of curiosity because their friends are going…

HateRed said:

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Not every CAL student is a football fan. Offer free tickets to students and those that show up, show up and those that don't, don't.

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First come, first serve while waiting in line at the stadium on gamedays? This might work but it could also be a logistical nightmare considering how many thousands of tickets that would have to be issued in such a short period of time.

Strykur said:

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bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

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That would assume they would even show up, even for free we maybe get half, perhaps a third of the students as-is.

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And for less popular games, there may be less incentive for a student to attend knowing their ticket was free.

Econ141 said:

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HateRed said:

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I just read that Stanford students will receive free tickets to their home football games. All they have to do is show their student ID. Their student Big Game tickets are allocated according to their attendance to regular home games. Why does CAL not offer free student tickets????

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They are going places, we are stuck in bureaucracy with zero innovation.

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The best innovation is to win games.

calumnus said:

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bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

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while eliminating the need for tarps, increasing excitement, building a big home field advantage with more wins and raising demand for the pricey seats on the west side.

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I don't think free tickets would lead to less tarps, it might make the problem worse. And Stanford's student section never seemed impressive to me.

calumnus said:

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HateRed said:

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Not every CAL student is a football fan. Offer free tickets to students and those that show up, show up and those that don't, don't.

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Of course, but as more students go to games it becomes more "the thing to do" on a Saturday with more students attending out of curiosity because their friends are going…

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I think there's more incentive to attend a game that you paid for, especially if the opponent or your own team is mediocre. For a student, a few bucks mean a lot.

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

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Do you know what the resale value of Cal football tickets is? Between Craigslist and the online reseller sites, I haven't paid more than $25/seat (Big Game excepted) in years. Right now there are dozens of the cheapest seats on SeatGeek for $28 - that's $5 below list price. Do you know who the sellers are? Probably Cal's ATO because regular demand is so low. It's hard to imagine any Cal student will go to the trouble of applying for free Cal football or basketball tickets with the intent of "raking in the dough" by reselling. Their time is more valuable than that.

Well, it depends on the quality of our opponent and our own record doesn't it?

HearstMining said:

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bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

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Do you know what the resale value of Cal football tickets is? Between Craigslist and the online reseller sites, I haven't paid more than $25/seat (Big Game excepted) in years. Right now there are dozens of the cheapest seats on SeatGeek for $28 - that's $5 below list price. Do you know who the sellers are? Probably Cal's ATO because regular demand is so low. It's hard to imagine any Cal student will go to the trouble of applying for free Cal football or basketball tickets with the intent of "raking in the dough" by reselling. Their time is more valuable than that.

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Moreover, it is not THAT difficult to print on the ticket that student admission requires showing a student ID (with gate checkers not checking too closely).

There can also be a GA section.

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

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Uhhh, this isn't the Air Force Academy, where cadets are required to attend home football games.

Even if a student just went to the home football games and the home conference men's basketball games, the "combo pass" available to students works out to only about $7 a game. The total is less than it cost to buy football and men's basketball passes when I was a Cal student 30 years ago. Reducing that cost to zero is not enough to get 10,000 students to a football game.

What would help more, as I've said here before, is giving students, along with the student pass, a voucher for $15 in food per game at the stadium concessions. Also, set up super fast wifi throughout the stadium. In other words, think like a college student to get college students in the stadium.

2034=markeisha

dumber than a box of rocks#

Shocky

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

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The business plan for Cal football is to get as many students hooked on Cal football, that should be the main objective. Cal has produced a dozen billionaires and none of them are Cal fans. If we had 3 or 4 of these as Cal fans, we would have been a top 10 program. The most important goal of the AD is to make sure that they get at least a handful of future billionaire grads to become sports fans by encouraging as many students as possible to attend games.

Sell a pass - $150 per year for all sports and you get the main student section in 50 yard line. Plus free $5 off coupon for every game if you spend d $10..

End zone section - free tickets - no coupon. First 5000 students, tickets end at kickoff time.

isn't their tuition like 90k per year? I would assume they just include everything in that bad boy.

They read Shocky's posts

HateRed said:

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I just read that Stanford students will receive free tickets to their home football games. All they have to do is show their student ID. Their student Big Game tickets are allocated according to their attendance to regular home games. Why does CAL not offer free student tickets????

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bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

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Just take off the tarps, you aren't going to get more than 10k students more to come with free tix unless we are a top 10 team.

bear2034 said:

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HateRed said:

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Not every CAL student is a football fan. Offer free tickets to students and those that show up, show up and those that don't, don't.

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First come, first serve while waiting in line at the stadium on gamedays? This might work but it could also be a logistical nightmare considering how many thousands of tickets that would have to be issued in such a short period of time.

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Much better to let the seats sit empty...

bear2034 said:

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Our undergraduate student body is four times that of Stanford's. If Cal gave out free tickets to all undergrads, that would be half our stadium's capacity.

If you limited the number of free tickers by lottery, you may turn off students who were unsuccessful and would not be willing pay for tickets if their peers didn't. An undesired black market would be created especially for popular games while other games would have empty seats that can't be filled by students who are willing to pay for them directly from Cal. Students who aren't interested in football may apply for lottery tickets just to resell them.

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Good! I want to see a robust black market for Cal tickets, that would mean tickets are selling out and people are showing up to games! You're worried about the best case scenario happening.

If a ticket shortage does happen, Cal can always limit the free tickets to the student section on a first come first served basis. If Cal tickets are in such high demand after that, limit free tickets to freshmen but give students discounted tickets (again, both of these types of tickets would be limited to a first come first served basis and limited to the student section).