Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals.

Enough slander on Nando👎🏽

— Jaydn Ott🇼🇸 (@THEJAYDNOTT) December 25, 2024

No more slander as shocky likes to say, you "dumb azzes".

Merry Christmas, Bearinsider.

Fans can be disappointed without taking it out on Nando. If you think this will be the last time fans have to deal with a beloved player leaving because of the new dynamics of college football you are fooling yourself.

There is a difference between slander and criticism.

I don't think Ott is talking about this Board which is restricted unless he joined. (Moreover, printed defamatory statements are libel not slander.)

southseasbear said:

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There is a difference between slander and criticism.

I don't think Ott is talking about this Board which is restricted unless he joined. (Moreover, printed defamatory statements are libel not slander.)

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Shocky calliing Nando poop and calling out his father with no evidence is crossing the line and unnecessary so it's happening here, and online. Everyone is pissed about the situation. We need a QB. Once we have at least one good portal pickup, tensions will ease significantly.

bearsandgiants said:

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southseasbear said:

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There is a difference between slander and criticism.

I don't think Ott is talking about this Board which is restricted unless he joined. (Moreover, printed defamatory statements are libel not slander.)

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Shocky calliing Nando poop and calling out his father with no evidence is crossing the line and unnecessary so it's happening here, and online. Everyone is pissed about the situation. We need a QB. Once we have at least one good portal pickup, tensions will ease significantly.

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I agree with you. Shocky (true to form) went over the top in his invective. On the other hand, if Fernando wants a career in the NFL he better start developing a thicker skin. For example:

• Rodgers was ridiculed by the Green Bay fans during his first few years until he won them over with HOF performance. Then when he left, the invective resumed.
• Goff was the Golden Boy in LA unitl the Rams lost the Super Bowl. He was criticized by the press (and then the fans) even though his O-line and the defense failed in that game. When he was traded to the Lions, LA fans started calling him "Goof" (I don't these were typos). Fans and sportswriters alike claimed he couldn't read defenses.

Mendoza isn't complaining. This is Ott standing up for a friend against all the fragile snowflakes (not using it as a political ideology reference) crying because we live in an NIL world

BarcaBear said:

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Mendoza isn't complaining. This is Ott standing up for a friend against all the fragile snowflakes (not using it as a political ideology reference) crying because we live in an NIL world

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Why does his friend feel the need to stand up for him if Mendoza is not complaining?

I always stood by those who felt we should not criticize student athletes who put their bodies (and minds) on the line for Cal. With payments of hundreds of thousands of dollars (and maybe millions), the players are in a different world where fans rightfully have higher expectations with respect to performance and team loyalty.

This is what money does.

BarcaBear said:

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Mendoza isn't complaining. This is Ott standing up for a friend against all the fragile snowflakes (not using it as a political ideology reference) crying because we live in an NIL world

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Few players sit their last conference game and their bowl game because they had been shopping themselves during the season and want to maintain their NIL profile. Fewer players (or nobody) does such while discouraging a 4/5 star athlete to come to their school because they are essentially afraid of competition.

southseasbear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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Mendoza isn't complaining. This is Ott standing up for a friend against all the fragile snowflakes (not using it as a political ideology reference) crying because we live in an NIL world

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Why does his friend feel the need to stand up for him if Mendoza is not complaining?

I always stood by those who felt we should not criticize student athletes who put their bodies (and minds) on the line for Cal. With payments of hundreds of thousands of dollars (and maybe millions), the players are in a different world where fans rightfully have higher expectations with respect to performance and team loyalty.

This is what money does.

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Your life sounds quite tragic. You appear not to know what friendship looks like.

I'll try to explain, when you have real friends you stand up for them and don't actually need them to say a word. I never let anyone bad mouth my friends.

Feel sorry for you that you never learned what a real friend is like, bruh.

BarcaBear said:

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southseasbear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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Mendoza isn't complaining. This is Ott standing up for a friend against all the fragile snowflakes (not using it as a political ideology reference) crying because we live in an NIL world

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Why does his friend feel the need to stand up for him if Mendoza is not complaining?

I always stood by those who felt we should not criticize student athletes who put their bodies (and minds) on the line for Cal. With payments of hundreds of thousands of dollars (and maybe millions), the players are in a different world where fans rightfully have higher expectations with respect to performance and team loyalty.

This is what money does.

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Your life sounds quite tragic. You appear not to know what friendship looks like.

I'll try to explain, when you have real friends you stand up for them and don't actually need them to say a word. I never let anyone bad mouth my friends.

Feel sorry for you that you never learned what a real friend is like, bruh.

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Wow, such ASSumptions from someone who has never met me.

In addition to your ASSumption about me, you ASSume that Fernando is hurt by what was said? Is he? if so, he is thinned skin and will have a problem when and if he has to play with the big boys in the NFL (see my post above) when he is held accountable by the press and fans. If not, then why is Ott getting involved.

You seem to be more of a mother hen than a friend, but that's your prerogative.

Everyone overlooks the fact that Nando involuntarily entered the portal. He was sucked in against his will leaving his boys behind.

The internet allows cowards to make statements that are best left unsaid.

With current rules large percentages of players are moving in hopes of finding the best situation for themselves, to blame because you dont approve is childish.

I think at least some of those that are bullies here are reacting to their being bullied at some point. Two wrongs dont make a right.

The internet allows cowards to make statements that are best left unsaid.

With current rules large percentages of players are moving in hopes of finding the best situation for themselves, to blame because you dont approve is childish.

I think at least some of those that are bullies here are reacting to their being bullied at some point. Two wrongs dont make a right.

why the hell should any cal fan care if mendoza or his family has hurt feelings? you are a mercenary athlete, not some 'student athlete' - people can criticize him and his family all they went. should have gone to yale, where he was committed before cal offered, and nobody would care.

this is pro football now, deal with it.

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why the hell should any cal fan care if mendoza or his family has hurt feelings? you are a mercenary athlete, not some 'student athlete' - people can criticize him and his family all they went. should have gone to yale, where he was committed before cal offered, and nobody would care.

this is pro football now, deal with it.

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Because they are not jerks? You want to be a bully, go ahead but if you bully you are a jerk (cant use the word i want)

This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

LunchTime said:

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This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

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Again, it's not that he left (which is understandable) but what he did on his way out..

southseasbear said:

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LunchTime said:

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This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

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Again, it's not that he left (which is understandable) but what he did on his way out..

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Indeed.

One of my new years resolutions is to try and gather information from you guys that is informative - opinions welcomed. Slamming staff and Bear players and turning this site into a Next Door or Facebook page makes me just laugh with all the name calling and criticism - back and forth. Cheers!

Oakbear said:

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The internet allows cowards to make statements that are best left unsaid.

With current rules large percentages of players are moving in hopes of finding the best situation for themselves, to blame because you dont approve is childish.

I think at least some of those that are bullies here are reacting to their being bullied at some point. Two wrongs dont make a right.

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You can say that again.

Oakbear said:

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The internet allows cowards to make statements that are best left unsaid.

With current rules large percentages of players are moving in hopes of finding the best situation for themselves, to blame because you dont approve is childish.

I think at least some of those that are bullies here are reacting to their being bullied at some point. Two wrongs dont make a right.

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You can say that again.

LunchTime said:

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This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

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goof

We're all bozos on this bus.

Bobodeluxe said:

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LunchTime said:

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This board is gross with its obsession with one upping the last goof who had a negative opinion on someone.

Dude leaving is no different than Gonzalez, or Lynch, or Rodgers.

Every player that has an opportunity to leave Cal for money is a ok.... Except now, it's some blasphemy.

It's always been strange that people are so smitten with people who leave early, but the vitriol over it is a new type of mental illness.

Y'all are the pinch line to a joke from decades ago.

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goof

We're all bozos on this bus.

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I am not joining on the Nando attack but come on now there is a BIG difference between Nando's departure and those others you list.

Almost all Highly ranked players are striving for the Golden Ring - to play in the NFL.

Getting a great education from a top academic institution is way way down on their list of priorities

If there is a chance for them to get into the NFL one or two years early, almost No One would pass up that opportunity. So I wouldn't blame them at all.

But leaving one institution to go to another for more money through the portal is most of all a monetary decision. And it is a legitimate reason for changing institutions

But it in NO WAY is comparable to making a decision to leave an institution early to go to the NFL.

Yes, it was understandable that Nando wanted to leave, for both monetary and professional reasons. And yes, the way he departed left a bad taste in many fans' mouths. Both things can be true at once, and talking about that isn't picking on poor Nando or his family.

westcoastdude said:

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Fans can be disappointed without taking it out on Nando. If you think this will be the last time fans have to deal with a beloved player leaving because of the new dynamics of college football you are fooling yourself.

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Team finds better QB than their starter. Fans: Dump starter!

QB finds a better team. Fans: Where is the loyalty? Traitor!. Let's believe any rumor about his horrible moral character whether we have evidence or not.

Player leaves Cal in portal. Fans. Where is the loyalty? Traitor!. Mercenary! Let's believe any rumor about his horrible moral character whether we have evidence or not. College football is broken. All about money. Players should be required to stay no matter how bad the situation so I can pretend they are loyal to my school.

Player comes to Cal in portal. Swell guy. Welcome to Cal! Made a great decision. Found the best place for him.

I don't care about Mendoza. I don't care about any of them. Players are where they are because they think that is the best place for them. That could be money, loyalty, weather, career advancement, they like the mascot, whatever. By the way, that is why coaches are where they are. That is why students are where they are. If you went to Cal and found it wasn't the best place for you, you'd transfer. Otherwise you are an idiot to damage yourself out of some misguided loyalty to an institution. And that is without adults making millions off your labor.

Criticize Mendoza if you want. I have no love or hate for him to care whether he has some tears mixed in while counting his coins. But you look like babies who are completely naive to college football. We already have a university that is 10 steps behind the curve at all times when it comes to revenue sports and these fan reactions just double down on the fact that as a community we don't understand.

Here are the facts that we actually know.

Mendoza committed to a better program that he had more confidence in.
Mendoza issued a public statement that was thankful and gracious to all involved.
Wilcox did not issue a negative public statement.
Some people connected to the Cal community in some way chose to publicly report rumors that may be true or may not be true, but in any case are very much best left alone.
A high school QB committed to Cal, then blew up, then committed to a much better program that is way out of Cal's league.

If you want to believe that Mendoza should have stayed, that he tanked our recruitment of a player for selfish reasons, be my guest. Balance of the probabilities says the guy went to Oregon because it's a way better football program. Just like a student set to go to ASU who gets in off the waitlist at Cal, probably didn't go to Cal because his cousin didn't like ASU.

And further, one player isn't making or breaking this program. Some of you have turned the guy into Jesus in cleats now that he is something that has been robbed from you. Whatever dastardly things you think Mendoza has done, he hasn't moved the needle on damaging the Cal program. Nothing close to a failed coaching staff and an administration that has let the program atrophy with neglect. Assuming everything negative said about Mendoza is true (which I extremely doubt), the rumors only serve one purpose - to blame him for our ills instead of Wilcox and Knowlton. And that has worked in spades. And don't think this is for the reputation of the program. Absolutely no one outside the Cal community is thinking "well, I thought Cal was falling apart, but turns out their QB was just a jerk". This is all for you. So every time you think "well, we could have been peachy if it weren't for Mendoza" - you are frankly gullible and part of the problem.

Exactly. He's gone but the real losers remain.

I think that what was exciting about Mendoza was that he could throw very accurately in to tight windows and my god over the middle other quarterbacks Wilcox has bern trotting out there looked lke crap and were basically running qbs. So losing a guy who can actually play the position is hard. Can we get someone as good? Not with Wilcox track record.

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.. Can we get someone as good? Not with Wilcox track record.

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^ major bummer maan..

oskidunker said:

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I think that what was exciting about Mendoza was that he could throw very accurately in to tight windows and my god over the middle other quarterbacks Wilcox has bern trotting out there looked lke crap and were basically running qbs. So losing a guy who can actually play the position is hard. Can we get someone as good? Not with Wilcox track record.

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Wilcox's track record includes getting someone exactly as good as Mendoza, so….

BearForceOne said:

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oskidunker said:

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I think that what was exciting about Mendoza was that he could throw very accurately in to tight windows and my god over the middle other quarterbacks Wilcox has bern trotting out there looked lke crap and were basically running qbs. So losing a guy who can actually play the position is hard. Can we get someone as good? Not with Wilcox track record.

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Wilcox's track record includes getting someone exactly as good as Mendoza, so….we wait until the first two qbs cant perform

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