Prime is a horrible coach. Getting handled by BYU.

Is BYU better than their ranking or is Colorado making them look like they were underrated?

Travis looking great on offense, but only 3 catches with eye popping yardage. But terrible on defense.
He should not have won the Heisman over Jeanty

Recruiting well is at least 80 percent of what it takes to be a successful college football head coach. Deion is nowhere near perfect, but his recruiting puts him far ahead of coaches who don't recruit well. With the talent CU had this year, a team at least has a chance to win big. Any team with a coaching staff that fails to land that much talent has a much lower ceiling.

Hunter is the worst Heisman winner in many years. He won the conference DPOTY because he played WR. He won the Biletnikoff because he played DB. **** is insane. Jeanty was absolutely robbed by media narrative swallowing sycophants.

Keep in mind:

2022: 1-11
2023: 4-8
2024: 9-4

Very good turnaround, regardless of what you think of Prime

9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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Recruiting is part of coaching.

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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Recruiting is part of coaching.

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That w as s bana l and trite.

We all know that they have to assess talent and offer, but given that many players don't perform then you know very well that coaching is well beyond the parameters of recruiting. Most players don't come ready made.

Coaching a game is what Prime seems to lack. I don't know how much of that is his staff being able to properly train players to improve. Whatever the factor, Prime is definitely lacking in it. He's not playing in the SEC or B1G, after all. That's why he wanted out of the Pac12, the Big 12 was easier, but apaprently above his capacity to coach.

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Prime is a horrible coach. Getting handled by BYU.

Is BYU better than their ranking or is Colorado making them look like they were underrated?

Travis looking great on offense, but only 3 catches with eye popping yardage. But terrible on defense.
He should not have won the Heisman over Jeanty

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You wouldn't take him over our current coach?? Also Cal has never had an African-American coach yet and yet Cal is the center of diversity and inclusion etc etc etc???

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BarcaBear said:

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Prime is a horrible coach. Getting handled by BYU.

Is BYU better than their ranking or is Colorado making them look like they were underrated?

Travis looking great on offense, but only 3 catches with eye popping yardage. But terrible on defense.
He should not have won the Heisman over Jeanty

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You wouldn't take him over our current coach?? Also Cal has never had an African-American coach yet and yet Cal is the center of diversity and inclusion etc etc etc???

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This has shown that a hc still has to coach. "We comin' " doesn't do it. Next year will be a challenge for Prime.

And, no, I wouldn't take him over our guys. Because, either the end is near or the new O staff will make a difference.

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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CalGrad95 said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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not OL, Miami or no Miami.

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Strykur said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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not OL, Miami or no Miami.

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OL aside competent coaching wins us at least 3-4+ more games in 2024

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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The same coaching that prepared us to get a lead on ranked Miami also got us the loss. It goes both ways.

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Strykur said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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The same coaching that prepared us to get a lead on ranked Miami also got us the loss. It goes both ways.

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6 and 7 ain't exactly fifty-fitty.

Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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Strykur said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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Playoffs? I just mean a winning squad and we can't even do that (and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars), plus with 14-16 team playoffs coming, how is this crap even conceivable

we're ****ed

Strykur said:

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Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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(and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars)

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Yes, you? are, because the difference is not linear. 47 is closer to 120 than it is to 10. And you? just lost your outstanding you QB to ****ing INDIANA, and a 5 star QB prospect to a top 10 program. Diminishing the value of recruiting is asinine.

ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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(and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars)

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Yes, you? are, because the difference is not linear. 47 is closer to 120 than it is to 10. And you? just lost your outstanding you QB to ****ing INDIANA, and a 5 star QB prospect to a top 10 program. Diminishing the value of recruiting is asinine.

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Oh yeah? Well, you're just jealous because Justin stayed here.

ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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(and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars)

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Yes, you? are, because the difference is not linear. 47 is closer to 120 than it is to 10. And you? just lost your outstanding you QB to ****ing INDIANA, and a 5 star QB prospect to a top 10 program. Diminishing the value of recruiting is asinine.

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You are out of your mind if you think recruiting even a step higher would transform this program, give Wilcox any top-5 roster and he would **** that up and go 7-5, recruiting rankings are the last ****ing thing I am thinking about at this point

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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(and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars)

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Yes, you? are, because the difference is not linear. 47 is closer to 120 than it is to 10. And you? just lost your outstanding you QB to ****ing INDIANA, and a 5 star QB prospect to a top 10 program. Diminishing the value of recruiting is asinine.

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You are out of your mind if you think recruiting even a step higher would transform this program, give Wilcox any top-5 roster and he would **** that up and go 7-5, recruiting rankings are the last ****ing thing I am thinking about at this point

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He could be Mario Cristobal if he could recruit.

ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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Strykur said:

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CalGrad95 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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BarcaBear said:

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9-4 in an off year for Utah, and also schedule luck had them avoid playing 2 of the conferences top teams.

Turn around was inevitable given the absolute mess he inherited. The limited success that has them realistically just above 6-6 season is due to his recruiting success, not coaching. They went 0-2 this year against the only ranked teams they played #17 & #18. They would have had 2 more losses had they played ASU and Iowa St.

Team has more talent than his opponents but it's not translating to dominance it should

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I would rather have a coach that is great at recruiting and mediocre at coaching than a coach that sucks at both

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I wonder which one we have.

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We don't even have a recruiting problem, we may not be grabbing 4/5 star guys much (if at all) but we were all over Miami for 3 quarters, we clearly have the talent to win games, but then there's coaching

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That's hilarious. Seven of th eleven top ranked rosters by 247 made the playoffs. From 12-30 3 more teams made it. Below 30 one team made it.

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(and we are not that far away from a top-25 squad based on stars)

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Yes, you? are, because the difference is not linear. 47 is closer to 120 than it is to 10. And you? just lost your outstanding you QB to ****ing INDIANA, and a 5 star QB prospect to a top 10 program. Diminishing the value of recruiting is asinine.

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You are out of your mind if you think recruiting even a step higher would transform this program, give Wilcox any top-5 roster and he would **** that up and go 7-5, recruiting rankings are the last ****ing thing I am thinking about at this point

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He could be Mario Cristobal if he could recruit.

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That would be a remarkable improvement, as if

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BarcaBear said:

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Prime is a horrible coach. Getting handled by BYU.

Is BYU better than their ranking or is Colorado making them look like they were underrated?

Travis looking great on offense, but only 3 catches with eye popping yardage. But terrible on defense.
He should not have won the Heisman over Jeanty

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You wouldn't take him over our current coach?? Also Cal has never had an African-American coach yet and yet Cal is the center of diversity and inclusion etc etc etc???

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What a historic season for Colorado, who last won the National Championship in 1990 (Cal last played in the Rose Bowl in 1959).

With two of the top 5 players in college football, including his son who attended one actual class (for 45 minutes) his entire time in college, Deion's Buffalo managed to achieve the following this season:

0-6 vs Top 25
2-9 vs P4 teams with at least a .500 record
Tons of smack talk to opponents
Cool chains and sunglasses worn

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Prime is a horrible coach. Getting handled by BYU.

Is BYU better than their ranking or is Colorado making them look like they were underrated?

Travis looking great on offense, but only 3 catches with eye popping yardage. But terrible on defense.
He should not have won the Heisman over Jeanty

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Would you like to walk back that comment 30 carries for a 100 yards and no TD's....