https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

Not good.

Yah I was wondering if this is a DUI. I know riding a bike drunk is DUI and I would think a golf cart is same. However were they on a public road? Doesn't sound like it. And it says the guy fell off the back of the cart so either it had a second row of seats or this guy was standing on the back.

It's a negligence action with comparative negligence to factor in. Based on the long friendship and Elway's wealth, no lawsuit will need be filed, is my guess.

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think it depends on if it happened on public or private land. but if on public land, you can absolutely get a DUI on a golf cart, and if Elway was driving he could be in a ton of trouble.

falling off the back can mean a lot of things depending on exactly how sloshed they were lol

realistically it was two friends golfing drunk which is how many people golf. hopefully the guy recovers and they can laugh about it later.

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One thing, Elway ain't talking

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"Although Jeff's not clinically dead, we're told doctors have informed his family there's no hope he will recover ... and he's being kept on life support while docs prepare to harvest his organs for donation," reads the TMZ report."

read the monster

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"Although Jeff's not clinically dead, we're told doctors have informed his family there's no hope he will recover ... and he's being kept on life support while docs prepare to harvest his organs for donation," reads the TMZ report."

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Sorry to hear that, just brutal news. Elway may have been driving the cart (he ain't talking).

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Yah I was wondering if this is a DUI. I know riding a bike drunk is DUI and I would think a golf cart is same. However were they on a public road? Doesn't sound like it. And it says the guy fell off the back of the cart so either it had a second row of seats or this guy was standing on the back.

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Operating a golf cart, or a dirt bike off road drunk is indeed DUI.

But cycling drunk is NOT DUI. It's CUI, and has far lower penalties:

Cycling under the influence (CUI) is the act of operating a bicycle while impaired by alcohol, drugs, or both. In California, this offense is addressed under Vehicle Code Section 21200.5 VC. Although it may seem less severe than driving under the influence (DUI), CUI is still a criminal offense with legal consequences. Max fine of $250, no jail time.

Cyclists should be aware of the distinction.

Jeff died.

Sperbeck had been sitting in the passenger seat, a source told ESPN.TMZ also reported that he had been on life support following the fall.

The Riverside County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident, though TMZ reported that there was no indication that Elway was driving negligently when Sperbeck fellafter the two men and their spouses had left a party."

John Elway's business partner, ex-agent dies from fall injuries


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44936924/john-elway-business-partner-ex-agent-dies-fall-injuries

Two days later?? Interesting
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-sheriff-learned-john-elway-golf-cart-incident-two-days-later-says-its-now-investigating

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Two days later?? Interesting
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-sheriff-learned-john-elway-golf-cart-incident-two-days-later-says-its-now-investigating

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Elway being responsible for the death of his friend and business partner was not on my bingo card this week, yet here we are.

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MTV Star Johnny Bananas with John Elway, Agent During Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/fjH734503N

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

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BulaBear3cubs said:

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Two days later?? Interesting
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-sheriff-learned-john-elway-golf-cart-incident-two-days-later-says-its-now-investigating

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Elway being responsible for the death of his friend and business partner was not on my bingo card this week, yet here we are.

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Too bad your bingo card was a loser.

Authorities: Jeff Sperbeck's death after fall from cart driven by John Elway was "horrific accident"

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/authorities-jeff-sperbecks-death-after-fall-from-cart-driven-by-john-elway-was-horrific-accident

The authorities in Riverside County, California have conducted an investigation into the golf-cart incident that resulted in the death of former NFL agent Jeff Sperbeck.

Making crap-up. Not good.

As always the attornies win

John Elway Seen at Swanky Day Party 2 Hours Before Fatal Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/mJlD0OoxGF

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

okaydo said:

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John Elway Seen at Swanky Day Party 2 Hours Before Fatal Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/mJlD0OoxGF

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

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Is this supposed to be cutesy innuendo? Because there are now numerous reports in the media that indicate witnesses report Elway was not drinking booze. E.g.,

Heavy SportsWitness Speaks Out After Ex-Broncos QB John Elway's Business Partner Dies1 day ago

Elway supposedly no longer drinks due to a medical condition.

Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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I mean, of course he feels awful... but haunt? I mean, maybe the friend wasn't sitting right, wasn't holding on when they hit a bump, or something else?
Not you in particular, but lot of people here have a story in search of facts.

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SBGold said:

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Two days later?? Interesting
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-sheriff-learned-john-elway-golf-cart-incident-two-days-later-says-its-now-investigating

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Elway being responsible for the death of his friend and business partner was not on my bingo card this week, yet here we are.

Go Bears Forever

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Too bad your bingo card was a loser.

Authorities: Jeff Sperbeck's death after fall from cart driven by John Elway was "horrific accident"

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/authorities-jeff-sperbecks-death-after-fall-from-cart-driven-by-john-elway-was-horrific-accident

The authorities in Riverside County, California have conducted an investigation into the golf-cart incident that resulted in the death of former NFL agent Jeff Sperbeck.

Making crap-up. Not good.

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We will see what comes out when the family sues.

It's coming. Too much money there and Elway was the driver.

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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I mean, of course he feels awful... but haunt? I mean, maybe the friend wasn't sitting right, wasn't holding on when they hit a bump, or something else?
Not you in particular, but lot of people here have a story in search of facts.

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You may be right but it would haunt me if I killed someone, negligence or not. Look at Jim Boeheim, he killed someone with his car in the middle of the night in Syracuse a few years ago. I just would be devastated whether it was an accident or not. Dude seems to have completely gotten over it, how flippant and arrogant he sounds on ACC network broadcasts. Same with Alec Baldwin, even making cameos on SNL. I just couldn't do it. I know many can.

Anyone who plays golf has had more than one close call with a cart. As much as I hate Elway, this is just a sad story.

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wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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I mean, of course he feels awful... but haunt? I mean, maybe the friend wasn't sitting right, wasn't holding on when they hit a bump, or something else?
Not you in particular, but lot of people here have a story in search of facts.

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You may be right but it would haunt me if I killed someone, negligence or not. Look at Jim Boeheim, he killed someone with his car in the middle of the night in Syracuse a few years ago. I just would be devastated whether it was an accident or not. Dude seems to have completely gotten over it, how flippant and arrogant he sounds on ACC network broadcasts. Same with Alec Baldwin, even making cameos on SNL. I just couldn't do it. I know many can.

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I guess I am questioning "killed someone" aspect of this, without knowing all the facts. Yes, he was driving, but did the deceased do something reckless or dumb while riding along? I could easily be wrong, and in fact Elway is devasted. Not as devasted as those here wishing the story had a more sinister ending for the former Furd QB, but you could be right.
You really can judge how Jim Boeheim "feels" based on how he "sounds" on a broadcast that he is being paid to do? Um, okay...

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wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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I mean, of course he feels awful... but haunt? I mean, maybe the friend wasn't sitting right, wasn't holding on when they hit a bump, or something else?
Not you in particular, but lot of people here have a story in search of facts.

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You may be right but it would haunt me if I killed someone, negligence or not. Look at Jim Boeheim, he killed someone with his car in the middle of the night in Syracuse a few years ago. I just would be devastated whether it was an accident or not. Dude seems to have completely gotten over it, how flippant and arrogant he sounds on ACC network broadcasts. Same with Alec Baldwin, even making cameos on SNL. I just couldn't do it. I know many can.

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I guess I am questioning "killed someone" aspect of this, without knowing all the facts. Yes, he was driving, but did the deceased do something reckless or dumb while riding along? I could easily be wrong, and in fact Elway is devasted. Not as devasted as those here wishing the story had a more sinister ending for the former Furd QB, but you could be right.
You really can judge how Jim Boeheim "feels" based on how he "sounds" on a broadcast that he is being paid to you? Um, okay...

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Well I make deductions. You know, life.

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wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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the problem is the rush to judgment, innuendo and just making stuff up, which you expect to see on the off topic board, where people just make stuff-up on a whim to push a narrative, but not here. All we really know from press reports is that the police say it was an accident, and nothing criminal, and Elway was not drinking (and there are a bunch of articles out there (not to mention AI) about Elway having gone off the sauce due to a medical condition).

Them there is some off the cuff comment by an investigator re: Elway not driving negligently that TMZ reported which probably should be taken with a grain of salt. The problem is we don't know what exactly happened. We don't know Elway did anything to cause the accident - the deceased may have just tried to move and lost his balance, or any number of other scenarios. The deceased made a lot of money, so money probably is not an issue for the loved ones, and the family inherits a lot fo businesses with Elway. Elway already has said he is devastated, so he clearly will be feeling this for some time. But no one outside the inner circle of people who were there and the police investigators actually know what happened at this time, and we may never know.

wifeisafurd said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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bearister said:

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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071

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apparently the police investigation found no criminal involvement. The police typically don't decide whether there is negligence - that is a cilvil matter. That said, TMZ quoted a police investigator saying no negligence was found.

Again, police officers typically do not formally determine negligence in an accident, and this sounds like an off the record remark. The determination of fault, or negligence, is usually a matter for civil court proceedings or insurance claims adjusters.

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I guess no one is pressing charges for criminal gross negligence or recklessness. Since he was a family friend, Elway gonna be OK legally. But this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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the problem is the rush to judgment, innuendo and just making stuff up, which you expect to see on the off topic board, where people just make stuff-up on a whim or to push a narative, but not here. All we really know from press reports is that the police say it was an accident, and nothing criminal, and Elway was not drinking (and there are a bunch of articles out there (not to mention AI) about Elway having gone off the sauce due to a medical condition).

Them there is some off the cuff comment by an investigator re: Elway not driving negligence that TMZ reported which probably be taken with a grain of salt. The problem is we don't know what exactly happened. We don't know Elway did anything to cause the accident - the deceased may have just tried to move and lost his balance, or any number of other scenarios. The decease made a lot of money, so money probably is not an issue, the family inherits a lot fo businesses with Elway, etc. Elway already has said he is devastated, so he clearly will be feeling this for some time. But no one outside the inner circle of people who were there and the police investigators actually know what happened at this time, and we may never know.

Then there is BS made-up that Elway was not cooperating with police, when

Other than what is likely an off the cuff remark by an investigator which was outed in

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Could very well be the case. And I don't wish Elway any ill. I grew up in the same town he went to HS -- Granada Hills. But this is a Cal board, and not exactly a jury room. So we can come up with our observations and theories even ones that are undisciplined, and it will impact no one, so ...

Yep. Crazy guy I rode with in a tourney made a HARD turn in the parking lot after the round and I sent flying onto the pavement. No alcohol involved. Golf carts can be dangerous.

Elway apparently didn't flip the cart (no others injured) so its probably a matter of the guy got distracted just as a turn was made or Elway hit a speed bump.

okaydo said:

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John Elway Seen at Swanky Day Party 2 Hours Before Fatal Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/mJlD0OoxGF

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

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This post sure didn't age well.

Us WeeklyNew Details on John Elway Golf Cart Crash That Killed Jeff Sperbeck18 hours ago


1) Cart caravan of 3 carts carrying a group from a private function at the golf club Elway belongs. Elway drove the second cart, Carts were designed to carry 10 to 15 people (i.e., they had back seat rows)
2) No horseplay. No swerving. No one drunk. Nothing was hit.
3) Elway was in front seat of cart with Cory Sperbeck and Elway's "girlfriend". (Apparently Elway is estranged from his wife). Sperbeck shared the back seats with "celeb" Joe Bananas
4) Notwithstanding previous reporting, Elway and others had instead attended the music festival events the day before.

wifeisafurd said:

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okaydo said:

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John Elway Seen at Swanky Day Party 2 Hours Before Fatal Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/mJlD0OoxGF

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

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This post sure didn't age well.

Us WeeklyNew Details on John Elway Golf Cart Crash That Killed Jeff Sperbeck18 hours ago


1) Cart caravan of 3 carts carrying a group from a private function at the golf club Elway belongs. Elway drove the second cart, Carts were designed to carry 10 to 15 people (i.e., they had back seat rows)
2) No horseplay. No swerving. No one drunk. Nothing was hit.
3) Elway was in front seat of cart with Cory Sperbeck and Elway's "girlfriend". (Apparently Elway is estranged from his wife). Sperbeck shared the back seats with "celeb" Joe Bananas
4) Notwithstanding previous reporting, Elway and others had instead attended the music festival events the day before.

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Let's just see if Cori lawyers up

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wifeisafurd said:

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okaydo said:

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John Elway Seen at Swanky Day Party 2 Hours Before Fatal Golf Cart Accident | Click to read more 👇 https://t.co/mJlD0OoxGF

— TMZ (@TMZ) May 2, 2025

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This post sure didn't age well.

Us WeeklyNew Details on John Elway Golf Cart Crash That Killed Jeff Sperbeck18 hours ago


1) Cart caravan of 3 carts carrying a group from a private function at the golf club Elway belongs. Elway drove the second cart, Carts were designed to carry 10 to 15 people (i.e., they had back seat rows)
2) No horseplay. No swerving. No one drunk. Nothing was hit.
3) Elway was in front seat of cart with Cory Sperbeck and Elway's "girlfriend". (Apparently Elway is estranged from his wife). Sperbeck shared the back seats with "celeb" Joe Bananas
4) Notwithstanding previous reporting, Elway and others had instead attended the music festival events the day before.

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Let's just see if Cori lawyers up

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I agree. For all we know she could sue Bananas who could then sue Elway. 68 million lawsuits were filed last year. Litigation is American as apple pie,