OT: Furd dropout arrested, charged w/data theft at MIT

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DeusEx
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http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/reddit-co-founder-charged-with-data-theft/

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/ityrk/reddit_cofounder_charged_with_data_theft/


"Aaron Swartz, a 24-year-old programmer and online political activist, has been indicted in Boston on charges that he stole more than four million documents from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and JSTOR, an archive of scientific journals and academic papers. (Read the full indictment below.)

Mr. Swartz was indicted last Thursday by the United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, Carmen M. Ortiz, and the indictment was unsealed Tuesday. The charges could result in up to 35 years in prison and a $1 million fine."

Sigh...come on, Stanford kids, you're supposed to make the digital future with us, not break it.
68great
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DeusEx;532428 said:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/reddit-co-founder-charged-with-data-theft/

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/ityrk/reddit_cofounder_charged_with_data_theft/


"Aaron Swartz, a 24-year-old programmer and online political activist, has been indicted in Boston on charges that he stole more than four million documents from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and JSTOR, an archive of scientific journals and academic papers. (Read the full indictment below.)

Mr. Swartz was indicted last Thursday by the United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, Carmen M. Ortiz, and the indictment was unsealed Tuesday. The charges could result in up to 35 years in prison and a $1 million fine."

Sigh...come on, Stanford kids, you're supposed to make the digital future with us, not break it.


In my mind that is sufficient justification for the NCAA banning stanfurd from any bowl games following the 2011 season.
GB54
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If you're going to be a nerd thief, don't hack the king of nerds. Break into the SEC libraries.
bluehenbear
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The SEC has libraries? I thought they just had gyms, weight rooms, stadiums and parking lots for tailgaiting?
Cal_Fan2
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GB54;532467 said:

If you're going to be a nerd thief, don't hack the king of nerds. Break into the SEC libraries.




Auburn.......



Son-of-California
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Just beat me to it...
EchoOfSilence
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chitownbear;532497 said:

Speaking of drop outs, didn't the Unabomber drop out of Cal?>


UGH, NO.

"In late 1967, Kaczynski became an assistant professor of mathematics at the University of California, Berkeley, where he taught undergraduate courses in geometry and calculus. He was also noted as the youngest professor ever hired by the university."

Undergrad at Harvard.
GB54
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FingeroftheBear;532507 said:

You're thinking of the other dude...the math grad student to hammered someone in the head...his prof/adviser?


No that was a Stanford grad student in the math department-different than the Unabomber. He clubbed his major Professor with a hammer.
DeusEx
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GB54;532509 said:

No that was a Stanford grad student in the math department-different than the Unabomber. He clubbed his major Professor with a hammer.


Lolwut? Are you serious? Who was it?


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Speaking of drop outs, didn't the Unabomber drop out of Cal?>


From Wikipedia: "Kaczynski was born in Chicago, Illinois, where, as an intellectual child prodigy, he excelled academically from an early age. Kaczynski was accepted into Harvard University at the age of 16, where he earned an undergraduate degree, and later earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley at age 25, but resigned two years later."
GB54
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DeusEx;532513 said:

Lolwut? Are you serious? Who was it?

See below. 19 years in grad school. If that wasn't justifiable homicide I don't know what is.


Theodore Streleski (born 1936) was a graduate student in mathematics at Stanford University who murdered his former faculty advisor, Professor Karel de Leeuw, with a small sledge hammer on August 18, 1978. Shortly after the murder, Streleski turned himself in to the authorities, claiming he felt the murder was justifiable homicide because de Leeuw had withheld departmental awards from him, demeaned Streleski in front of his peers, and refused his requests for financial support. Streleski was in his 19th year pursuing his doctorate in the mathematics department, alternating with low-paying jobs to support himself.[1]

During his trial Streleski told the court he felt the murder was "logically and morally correct" and "a political statement" about the department's treatment of its graduate students, and he forced his court-appointed lawyer to enter a plea of "not guilty" rather than "not guilty by reason of insanity" as the lawyer had urged.[1] Streleski was convicted of second degree murder and he served seven years in prison for his actions.

Streleski was eligible for parole on three occasions, but turned it down as the conditions of his parole required him to not set foot on the Stanford campus. Upon his release in 1985, he said, "I have no intention of killing again. On the other hand, I cannot predict the future."
SeymoreBear
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GB54;532525 said:

DeusEx;532513 said:

Lolwut? Are you serious? Who was it?

See below. 19 years in grad school. If that wasn't justifiable homicide I don't know what is.


Theodore Streleski (born 1936) was a graduate student in mathematics at Stanford University who murdered his former faculty advisor, Professor Karel de Leeuw, with a small sledge hammer on August 18, 1978. Shortly after the murder, Streleski turned himself in to the authorities, claiming he felt the murder was justifiable homicide because de Leeuw had withheld departmental awards from him, demeaned Streleski in front of his peers, and refused his requests for financial support. Streleski was in his 19th year pursuing his doctorate in the mathematics department, alternating with low-paying jobs to support himself.[1]

During his trial Streleski told the court he felt the murder was "logically and morally correct" and "a political statement" about the department's treatment of its graduate students, and he forced his court-appointed lawyer to enter a plea of "not guilty" rather than "not guilty by reason of insanity" as the lawyer had urged.[1] Streleski was convicted of second degree murder and he served seven years in prison for his actions.

Streleski was eligible for parole on three occasions, but turned it down as the conditions of his parole required him to not set foot on the Stanford campus. Upon his release in 1985, he said, "I have no intention of killing again. On the other hand, I cannot predict the future."



i'm turning a blind eye. I LOVE reddit.
ColoradoBear
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68great;532462 said:

In my mind that is sufficient justification for the NCAA banning stanfurd from any bowl games following the 2011 season.


give stanford a 5 year bowl ban. fok them.

boston sucks too.
93BearInOregon
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The really amazing thing is that the AP identifies him as someone who was "studying ethics."

LINK
bear2034
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Cal_Fan2;532476 said:

Auburn.......







my vote for post of the week. good stuff.
ohsooso
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Hey, we hired John Yoo as well, war criminal extraordinaire.
68great
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FingeroftheBear;532507 said:

You're thinking of the other dude...the math grad student to hammered someone in the head...his prof/adviser?


I thought that was a song by the Beatles - "Maxwell Silver Hammer".
cubzwin
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Ironic that he only served 7 years for murder even though he was clearly not rehabilitated (you never know what the future may bring...). On the other hand, he served a sentence of 19 years as a doctoral candidate.
DeusEx
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Turns out he's not exactly one of the co-founders of Reddit...

https://plus.google.com/u/0/113164038788726940319/posts/HJz9Vd58Wtb

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On co-founders

A big thank you to all my friends in the media and otherwise who helped to set the record straight. I couldn't be happier with how quickly the New York Times responded in changing their incorrect headline from yesterday^1 -- I just wish it hadn't happened.

How'd this happen? And why do I care so much?

+Steve Huffman and I were in the first round of Y Combinator working on reddit.com, which we launched at the end of June 2005.

We went on to raise $70K of angel funding, built a healthy community with weekly growth -- we'd even received an acquisition offer from Google (I'd PR-goofed on this one and it leaked) -- and at this point Steve had built essentially all of the technology that still makes up reddit today (here's a screenshot from October 2005)^2

Then, six months after launch, we acquired Aaron Swartz's company infogami to form a new entity, which made all three of us directors -- we were all equal equity holders in this new company (without vesting, a huge mistake, take note, founders).

I was in fact once quoted saying: "Paul wanted to give Aaron Swartz, another YC founder, a birthday gift in November. More than anything else, Aaron wanted co-founder so Paul suggested the "merger". Merger is probably a bit hyperbolic for what actually happened, Aaron basically moved in with us and we made him a co-founder. " (emphasis mine)^3

I was referring to making him an equal equity holder in the new company (Not a Bug, Inc.) which made him a co-owner of the new company, but still doesn't justify calling him a "reddit co-founder."

Steve and I have tried to stay out of this and assumed (incorrectly) that the truth would prevail. He put it well in this reddit post^4. We simply haven't wanted to engage or even really discuss it.

Yet here we are thanks to a linkbait-y headline that spreads around the Internet and makes the majority of its readers assume Steve or I (but really, Steve, because I'm not smart enough to pull something like this off) is being charged with data theft.

Co-founding reddit means so much more to me than just the work Steve and I put into creating and growing it. We went through some serious **** together and became closer because of it. Aaron had nothing to do with any of this.

http://alexisohanian.com/keep-calm-carry-on-what-you-didnt-know-about

While "co-founder" is a title that's sometimes negotiated for, it wasn't with reddit -- and it's something I respect far more given what we went through. For instance, I joined hipmunk.com (Steve's new startup with Adam Goldstein) a week before launch and ran all the marketing/PR/community-stuff (logo, too!) with only equity as compensation -- I've heard from some that this would qualify me as a "co-founder," yet you'll never catch me calling myself one, because I'm not.

I'm going back into silence on this subject now. And hopefully the truth will win this time around. The original falsehood all seems to stem from an interview Aaron gave after we asked him to resign from reddit:

<blockquote>
How long had you been with the Reddit team and what did you do there?

I was with the Reddit team back when we were coming up with the idea, in the months before the first Y Combinator Summer Founders Program started.^5
</plzsupportHTMLtags>

Aaron's reply is 100% false.

Neither Steve nor I even knew who Aaron was in the months before the first YC program and during the program we only spoke during the weekly meetings, as he was working on an entirely different startup - infogami.

Bonus! Here's the first article ever written about Y Combinator from Sept 13 (almost 3 months after reddit launched) where Aaron is talking about his startup, Infogami.^6

DeusEx
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What exactly happened...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/rogue-academic-downloader-busted-by-mit-webcam-stakeout.ars?comments=1#comments-bar

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That officer was watching the video feed the next day when, a little after noon, someone who resembled the person caught on tape two days earlier entered the room and took the laptop and hard drive. A call went out to find the suspect, and at 2:11, a captain reported that he’d located the suspect riding a bicycle.

The two MIT officers and Special Agent Pickett then tried to stop Swartz, who jumped off his bike and ran away, only to be caught and handcuffed by the Secret Service Agent, according to the report.

The arrest report makes no mention of Swartz hiding from the webcam, but his federal indictment accuses him of hiding his face from surveillance cameras by holding his bike helmet up to his face and looking through the ventilation holes.
Dark Reverie
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bluehenbear;532471 said:

The SEC has libraries? I thought they just had gyms, weight rooms, stadiums and parking lots for tailgaiting?


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