Wilner on Maynard

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okaydo
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Hmmmm....


http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2012/03/30/actionreaction-the-wcc-expands-stanford-wins-the-nit-cal-and-san-jose-state-football/

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Action: Cal quarterback Zach Maynard misses multiple spring workouts to take care of classroom responsibilities.
Reaction I: Coach Jeff Tedford has repeatedly stated that Maynard is not in trouble academically and is expected to be with the Bears when training camp begins, and at this point, we’ll take Tedford at his word.
Reaction II: But let’s make no mistake: This is unsettling news for the Bears. Maynard is Cal’s best hope at the most important position in years. At the same time, it’s not like he’s a polished quarterback (Luck, Barkley) who can afford to miss workouts anytime of year. To be the best player he can be … to improve on what he was last fall … Maynard needs every live snap he can get.
Reaction III: Above and beyond actually missing workouts is the matter of academics being a distraction. Assuming he’s eligible, Maynard needs to be as locked into football as possible as often as possible. And clearly, his academic situation is tenuous enough that he cannot be fully engaged mentally.
Reaction IV: All I’m saying is that it’s not unreasonable to think the academic responsibilities this offseason will make Maynard 85-90% of the quarterback he could otherwise have been in the fall. That differential could mean Cal wins seven games instead of nine, or six instead of eight. It’s a fine line, especially at that position.

socaliganbear
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Unfortunately, I'm not as concerned. Weird.
Bobodeluxe
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Oh, wait ...
Adrian The Cal Bear
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I am. Wilner has a point. Maynard needs to improve and if he's having a hard time academically, this means less practice for him to get better.

Hopefully AB can step up. But if Maynard is really our best option, and is not improving from last season, this could be a rocky season at QB again.
socaliganbear
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Guess my point is rocky=normal for us so.....
Adrian The Cal Bear
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Ouch, it's still hard for me to grasp onto the pessimistic nature of Cal football.
Cal88
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More snaps for our backup QBs. As well, Maynard will have the benefit of summer camp.
CALiforniALUM
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For the first time this situation seems to be forcing us to develop depth at QB. That has to be valued as a positive. My most frustrating observation over the years with JT has been the utter lack of appearance and acknowledgment of needing to get the QB depth chart some meaningful minutes.
socaltownie
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Or - that Maynard's number one responsibility is the classroom ANYWAY (he is NOT gong to the NFL, Wilner) thus he is missing some spring practices for what matters.. Heck, maybe he is taking a bitch of a class which refuses to let him out for Spring Ball. Or he could be loading up this semester so he can take a lighter load in the Fall. Happens at Cal. It is OK.
Cal_Fan2
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socaltownie;731810 said:

Or - that Maynard's number one responsibility is the classroom ANYWAY (he is NOT gong to the NFL, Wilner) thus he is missing some spring practices for what matters.. Heck, maybe he is taking a bitch of a class which refuses to let him out for Spring Ball. Or he could be loading up this semester so he can take a lighter load in the Fall. Happens at Cal. It is OK.


Maynard needs to make up units from last year...quite a few. If he isn't able to do it then he might be ineligible. Forget about what the Contra Costa Times guy said awhile back about there being no problem....There is, or at least there was. I hope he is able to make them up and play.
NYCGOBEARS
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Maynard focusing on his academics is a good thing. If he can get everything in order by the fall, I would think that it relieves a lot of anxiety and would help him to focus on football. It can be a win-win. Maynard gets his education and our backups get more reps.
mbBear
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they are interesting questions. But the speculated drop-off assumes kind of a "free pass" for Maynard-the reps he isn't getting are going to Bridgford, and then you have to ask, if Wilner's scenarios are playing out, does it mean that he loses the position.
Harris is the only WR there now who is likely to get PT next year, so the reps on that end aren't significant. Its about reps that bring a higher understanding of the offense, and this could be a factor.
socaltownie
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Cal_Fan2;731811 said:

Maynard needs to make up units from last year...quite a few. If he isn't able to do it then he might be ineligible. Forget about what the Contra Costa Times guy said awhile back about there being no problem....There is, period.


How do you know this?

I am so tired of posters coming on and saying **** about our guys as if they had INSIDE INFORMATION of a personal nature. Say he sucks on the football field. Say he throws off his back foot to his off hand side. Say you hate his haircut. All that stuff is observable. But don't bring that weak stuff when it comes to behind the scenes info. Either you know it to be true (and then should keep your trap shut if you are actually his friend or a friend of the program) or don't make sh*t up.
FrankBear21
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Maynard has had plenty of reps with his step-brother Allen, and his coursing Maurice Harris. JT knows this and knows that it is not vital that his is participating in these practices.

I wish JT would make Maynard come out though so he flunks his classes and is ineligible so we have no choice but to play one of the other guys who are actually QBs
NYCGOBEARS
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FrankBear21;731827 said:


I wish JT would make Maynard come out though so he flunks his classes and is ineligible so we have no choice but to play one of the other guys who are actually QBs


Really? That is an absolutely horrible thing to say about one of our players. Terrible.
FrankBear21
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NYCGOBEARS;731829 said:

Really? That is an absolutely horrible thing to say about one of our players. Terrible.


Really? "Absolutely Horrible"? Have you read some of the things on this board before? What would you classify those things as?
NYCGOBEARS
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FrankBear21;731833 said:

Really? "Absolutely Horrible"? Have you read some of the things on this board before? What would you classify those things as?


If you're using the bad behavior of others as your excuse, then your statement makes perfect sense. I still disagree with it.
Letsroll
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AMY chimed in. Looks like we should be fine. Whenever that little twerp posts it's time to go contrarian.
chazzed
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FrankBear21;731833 said:

Really? "Absolutely Horrible"? Have you read some of the things on this board before? What would you classify those things as?


I guess you take comfort in the notion that you're attitude is just plain horrible, then?

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Looks like I've been trolled. Thnx, Letsroll.
NYCGOBEARS
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Letsroll;731840 said:

AMY chimed in. Looks like we should be fine. Whenever that little twerp posts it's time to go contrarian.


Very easy to go contrarian with such an asinine mean spirited remark.
Boot
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Wilner is an idiot.
Bear8
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Whoever starts at QB better be on it right now! If it's to be Maynard, he is missing a valuable period of time in which to refine his skills. If he's able to return for Fall Camp, then perhaps we can salvage what he has missed.

OTOH, if it's to be Bridgeford, then we need him to be acknowledged as the starter. He needs to lead in Fall Camp and then he is fortunate as the first two games are against lesser competition and will be played at home. If he can master the beginning of the season, he should be prepared sufficiently to walk into the Horseshoe and not be overcome with nerves. This is followed up by playing in the Coliseum and again facing a hostile crowd and favored team.

I am not anti-Maynard, but I believe his missing Spring can hurt us down the line. I would like to see Bridgeford out there getting comfortable as the starter and being able to assume the leadership role that defines a quarterback. I see that as our best chance to challenge OSU and SC.
I Bear
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I wish JT would make Maynard come out though so he flunks his classes and is ineligible so we have no choice but to play one of the other guys who are actually QBs


Wow, we have reached a new low on this board(which I thought would be tough to do), you actually want one of the kids to FLUNK?!? Amazing! You are an idiot!
NYCGOBEARS
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I Bear;731848 said:

I wish JT would make Maynard come out though so he flunks his classes and is ineligible so we have no choice but to play one of the other guys who are actually QBs


Wow, we have reached a new low on this board(which I thought would be tough to do), you actually want one of the kids to FLUNK?!? Amazing! You are an idiot!


One of the worst posts ever.
Cal_Fan2
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socaltownie;731822 said:

How do you know this?

I am so tired of posters coming on and saying **** about our guys as if they had INSIDE INFORMATION of a personal nature. Say he sucks on the football field. Say he throws off his back foot to his off hand side. Say you hate his haircut. All that stuff is observable. But don't bring that weak stuff when it comes to behind the scenes info. Either you know it to be true (and then should keep your trap shut if you are actually his friend or a friend of the program) or don't make sh*t up.


I do know 2 guys that give me inside info from time to time. One guy who knows most of the players because of his unique work with recruits told me. He hasn't been wrong yet. If he is this time, then it would be a first. I didn't bad mouth Maynard at all, I simply said he had units to make up to stay eligible. It is info relevant to the program I would think. Sorry if you find it unworthy. It isn't any worse than some of the posters here bad mouthing others politics or religion that has NOTHING to do with football.. Do you bash those guys too?....
FrankBear21
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chazzed;731841 said:

I guess you take comfort in the notion that you're attitude is just plain horrible, then?

EDIT
Looks like I've been trolled. Thnx, Letsroll.


Jesus u say one joke on the boards and everyone things your serious. If i put a smiley face at the end no one would have said a thing
freshfunk
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Did I miss something? So far I've read one practice missed due to classes. Has he missed more? Is there a confirmed academic issue that we thought didn't exist?

Now's the opportunity for AB to win the starting spot. I hope he doesn't waste this chance.
SnoozerBear
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CALiforniALUM;731800 said:

My most frustrating observation over the years with JT has been the utter lack of appearance and acknowledgment of needing to get the QB depth chart some meaningful minutes.


Yeah, I don't want Cal to finally have a good QB (after 3 years of 'development') and for him to go down with no capable backup...effectively sending the program in a tailspin.
dinan3
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This is most dysfunction thread in a while. Have at it boys, let's shed some blood.............
calumnus
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Cal88;731799 said:

More snaps for our backup QBs. As well, Maynard will have the benefit of summer camp.


Allen and the freshmen WRs won't be here until Summer anyway.

This is a good opportunity for Tedford to work with Bridgford, Hinder, Boehm and Kline--hopefully to challenge for this year or at least be capable QBs, but in the least because one of those guys is going to be our QB next year.
chazzed
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FrankBear21;731864 said:

Jesus u say one joke on the boards and everyone things your serious. If i put a smiley face at the end no one would have said a thing


Well, yeah. Sarcasm is rather tough to read on forums, especially for such a flashpoint issue as Cal's QB
calumnus
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I Bear;731848 said:


Wow, we have reached a new low on this board(which I thought would be tough to do), you actually want one of the kids to FLUNK?!? Amazing! You are an idiot!


Well before the 2010 season we had a poster say he wanted Riley to get injured so that Tedford would be forced to start Mansion, who all the "insiders" told us was so much better. Unfortunately, the idiot got his wish.

I am not sure if wishing injury on one of our players is worse than wishing one flunks, but....yeah.
NYCGOBEARS
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chazzed;731876 said:

Well, yeah. Sarcasm is rather tough to read on forums, especially for such a flashpoint issue as Cal's QB


If it was a joke, it was a really bad one.
SnoozerBear
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calumnus;731878 said:

Well before the 2010 season we had a poster say he wanted Riley to get injured so that Tedford would be forced to start Mansion, who all the "insiders" told us was so much better. Unfortunately, the idiot got his wish.

I am not sure if wishing injury on one of our players is worse than wishing one flunks, but....yeah.


So what you're saying is if the past is any indication, Bridgford would perform on par with Mansion at QB, and at that point we would wish that Maynard was able to lead us to be bowl eligible. Ok gotcha...
FrankBear21
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NYCGOBEARS;731879 said:

If it was a joke, it was a really bad one.


not every joke is made to be funny
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