http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rapid-reports/post/18328153


http://www.dailycal.org/2012/04/05/notes-from-spring-practice-stadium-will-be-game-ready/

Thank you Okaydo. I like your posts but Meh...let me know when Tedford actually says something different AND implements it accordingly.

liverflukes;733749 said:

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Thank you Okaydo. I like your posts but Meh...let me know when Tedford actually says something different AND implements it accordingly.

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So basically, Tedford press conferences should be ignored unless the team is an undefeated killing machine or he says a player sucks. Got it.

LessMilesMoreTedford;733766 said:

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So basically, Tedford press conferences should be ignored unless the team is an undefeated killing machine or he says a player sucks. Got it.

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You know...two Tedford supporters here actually. I'm just at the end of the line with the one-liners is all. I would like to see some different quotes for once and to see some real emotion from the coach on a blue chip learning the system. Having a good sense of humor is great but how about "the kid has a rifle as an arm...I think he will take some records at Cal from what I've seen." Would that be such a terrible thing to say for the fan base?

liverflukes;733786 said:

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You know...two Tedford supporters here actually.

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Don't you dare call me a Tedford supporter! Damn you!

But seriously, I'm probably more aligned with your thinking than the pumpers.

Sigh.

okaydo;733788 said:

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Don't you dare call me a Tedford supporter! Damn you!

But seriously, I'm probably more aligned with your thinking than the pumpers.

Sigh.

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I meant meant me as a Tedford supporter. I know you are/were too Okaydo. fUCLA and USC this past year sent me into uncharted territory. I hate the negas but am sick of losing and see nothing so far as an alternative. Realist Bear? Pragmatic Bear? OptiBear? Pshaw....I don't have an identity anymore except a Bear avatar holding a roll of TP for all the bullsh*t said and that I post here....

liverflukes;733790 said:

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I meant meant me as a Tedford supporter. I know you are/were too Okaydo. fUCLA and USC this past year sent me into uncharted territory. I hate the negas but am sick of losing and see nothing so far as an alternative. Realist Bear? Pragmatic Bear? OptiBear? Pshaw....I don't have an identity anymore except a Bear avatar holding a roll of TP for all the bullsh*t said and that I post here....

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.....if you changed your handle to "bear scat" l.f., it would all fit nicely with your avatar....LOL....plus you know both you and Okaydo secretly pump JT sunshine in the wee hours of the morning......:p

He better be impressed with Kline...

Cal_Fan2;733792 said:

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.....if you changed your handle to "bear scat" l.f., it would all fit nicely with your avatar....LOL....plus you know both you and Okaydo secretly pump JT sunshine in the wee hours of the morning......:p

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Ah...an old Pal. What will the future bring us?

liverflukes;733790 said:

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I meant meant me as a Tedford supporter. I know you are/were too Okaydo. fUCLA and USC this past year sent me into uncharted territory. I hate the negas but am sick of losing and see nothing so far as an alternative. Realist Bear? Pragmatic Bear? OptiBear? Pshaw....I don't have an identity anymore except a Bear avatar holding a roll of TP for all the bullsh*t said and that I post here....

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I started calling for Tedford's head once we lost to UCLA. That was the most embarrassing lost of the season without a doubt...

I'm in agreement with Okaydo and Flukes (what a weird handle!). I don't know what to make of our last few years? The upcoming season, even though most toughies are at CMS, still shows a couple of losses as givens - SC, Ore, tOSU and then there's always a surprise loss or two. Is the best we're looking at as 7-5 or 8-4? I can foresee the platoon of Nega's coming out of the woodwork to gloat about how right they were in predicting that Tedford can't take us to the next level. It will be more of the same.

Been there, done that.

GummyGrizzly;733858 said:

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No, that's not it.

Tedford's praise for Kline was too general. He didn't mention accuracy, rapport with receivers, going through his progressions, learning playbooks, etc. He also didn't mention anything regarding if Kline had any tools that other QBs didn't, which would have implied we would have potential to rise above what we already are.

THAT'S why his praise of Kline seems rather hard to take seriously, and that's why his praise doesn't give us any additional hope.

We don't have to be undefeated and he doesn't have to say a player sucks. He needs to give more analytic details if he wants us to take his praise of Kline seriously.

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Praising a kid that still should be finishing up high school is tough. Everyone (just read this board) asks about Kline and if his feet get wet when he walks on water - Tedford is cliche because that is the way to answer the innane questions, and deflect attention to the kid as he learns how to play college football. He is not going to play this year and shouldn't. Ask about the strides Bridgford is making instead - He will contribute this season!

Masau80;733901 said:

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Praising a kid that still should be finishing up high school is tough. Everyone (just read this board) asks about Kline and if his feet get wet when he walks on water - Tedford is cliche because that is the way to answer the innane questions, and deflect attention to the kid as he learns how to play college football. He is not going to play this year and shouldn't. Ask about the strides Bridgford is making instead - He will contribute this season!

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I think that's it, really. We forget that these men - incoming freshman in particular - are rather young. Speaking from experience, it's all too easy to nitpick every move when we're not where we want to be. Tedford should be held accountable for the results of the program, no doubt, but I don't mind him keeping expectations in check with regard to new student athletes.

Adrian The Cal Bear;733822 said:

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I started calling for Tedford's head once we lost to UCLA. That was the most embarrassing lost of the season without a doubt...

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Me too, though it wasn't so much that we lost (given that it was a road game, I was prepared for that possibility) and more that Tedford kept throwing Maynard to the wolves even while he was in the midst of a 5-turnover game. If there was ever a game to sit your starting QB, it was that one.

Now closing out the regular season on a better run was nice (3 wins and a close loss to Furd) so that softened my stance against JT a bit, but I no longer believe it's likely he'll lead us back to 9-10 win seasons. I continue to HOPE that he will, but if I'm being honest I think we're looking at another ~7 win season next year.

GummyGrizzly;733858 said:

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No, that's not it.

Tedford's praise for Kline was too general. He didn't mention accuracy, rapport with receivers, going through his progressions, learning playbooks, etc. He also didn't mention anything regarding if Kline had any tools that other QBs didn't, which would have implied we would have potential to rise above what we already are.

THAT'S why his praise of Kline seems rather hard to take seriously, and that's why his praise doesn't give us any additional hope.

We don't have to be undefeated and he doesn't have to say a player sucks. He needs to give more analytic details if he wants us to take his praise of Kline seriously.

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I doubt Tedford cares much whether we take his praise of Kline seriously. But in his defense, if you can find the kind of analysis you mention above from a BCS Conference coach regarding a Spring Admit, true frosh QB with 1 week of spring practice under his belt..... feel free to post a link.

Good luck with that one.

GummyGrizzly;733858 said:

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No, that's not it.

Tedford's praise for Kline was too general. He didn't mention accuracy, rapport with receivers, going through his progressions, learning playbooks, etc. He also didn't mention anything regarding if Kline had any tools that other QBs didn't, which would have implied we would have potential to rise above what we already are.

THAT'S why his praise of Kline seems rather hard to take seriously, and that's why his praise doesn't give us any additional hope.

We don't have to be undefeated and he doesn't have to say a player sucks. He needs to give more analytic details if he wants us to take his praise of Kline seriously.

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You guys should actually watch the press conference - it was posted on here. It's 11 minutes long.

1. It's a two way conversation. With respect to Kline, he was basically asked about how he was adjusting to college, how he relates to the other players, and how he was picking up the offense. So those were the answers you got. He praised his leadership, knowledge, sense of humor, said he works with the players well and has confidence. Funny thing is you say you want him to comment about him learning the playbook - he was asked and he answered that Kline is picking up the offense as fast as any freshman we've ever had. I don't think there was a lot of substance there, nor do I think that was likely after a few practices, but you can't blame him for answering the questions he was asked instead of the one's you wish he was asked. For instance, if you watch when he was asked about Bridgford, the questions directed him more in your area, and he had high praise specifically for his accuracy and said he was healthy now.

2. If you actually watch the press conference, there was a lot of good info there. I really don't know what it is you guys want a coach to say - he's answering questions about spring practice. You would find out that the DLine has stood out. Richard Rodgers has looked really good. Jason Gibson was singled out as playing well, and he has moved inside. Also mentioned Forbes on the inside, and said we've moved Wilkerson there, but he's been hurt. Sebastian had a good practice after being nicked up much of the time. The pass protection has apparently been terrible as we've tried to rotate guys in. Maurice Harris has the best hands on the team and a really good frame. Our WR situation won't be settled til late fall. Clay isn't coming back. CDJ is transferring. That's off the top of my head - go watch yourself.

Yes, when they ask stupid general questions like how was practice coach? you get coach speak. When they ask specific questions about who has stood out this spring, he tells you. I really don't know what information you are looking to get that you could realistically expect that he did not give you.

Masau80;733901 said:

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Praising a kid that still should be finishing up high school is tough. Everyone (just read this board) asks about Kline and if his feet get wet when he walks on water - Tedford is cliche because that is the way to answer the innane questions, and deflect attention to the kid as he learns how to play college football. He is not going to play this year and shouldn't. Ask about the strides Bridgford is making instead - He will contribute this season!

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Well said. Kline has had only a few practices under very limited conditions and it's a bit ridiculous for some fans to demand an accurate assessment of how this high school senior is doing against seasoned vets. The way some fans on this board have laid all their entire hopes on this kid, the expectations are quite unreasonable when it's only SPRING BALL. Relax and let him adjust to college before demanding specific answers that might not be there yet.

OaktownBear;733936 said:

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Yes, when they ask stupid general questions like how was practice coach? you get coach speak. When they ask specific questions about who has stood out this spring, he tells you. I really don't know what information you are looking to get that you could realistically expect that he did not give you.

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+ infinity. And for all the talk about "he doesn't show enough emotion," anyone who thinks that really has no clue about what his personality is like. Ask a player (more likely a former player) and you'll find out that he is a damned sailor and shows plenty of emotion when you screw up - like 98% of the coaches I have ever worked with. Then there's the other side of the coin, Holmoe: Bless his heart - he cried one day giving a post-practice speech to the team.

OaktownBear;733936 said:

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You guys should actually watch the press conference - it was posted on here. It's 11 minutes long.

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Yes, when they ask stupid general questions like how was practice coach? you get coach speak. When they ask specific questions about who has stood out this spring, he tells you. I really don't know what information you are looking to get that you could realistically expect that he did not give you.

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Couldn't agree more. This thread is a bit late to the party and only presents a subset of the press conference so I guess anyone who thinks this is new information should understand the context by reading the more informative press conference threads or watching the available video.

Vandalus;733985 said:

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+ infinity. And for all the talk about "he doesn't show enough emotion," anyone who thinks that really has no clue about what his personality is like. Ask a player (more likely a former player) and you'll find out that he is a damned sailor and shows plenty of emotion when you screw up - like 98% of the coaches I have ever worked with. Then there's the other side of the coin, Holmoe: Bless his heart - he cried one day giving a post-practice speech to the team.

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I think everyone knows he has a temper (OSU 2007?), people would just like to see him be a little more loose and upbeat. Our team plays tight which many believe is a reflection of the head coach. Even Tedford has acknowledged this in the past and said he was going to try to lighten up. "Rah rah" and inspirational is a good fit for college football.

That said, I agree he is just answering the questions and is answering them truthfully wihtout being negative. I do think that instead of just responding to the questions, like a witness in a deposition, which gets the reporters (and him) into an uncomfortable interrogation mode, he would be better served composing his thoughts before meeting with the reporters, taking off his sunglasses and then running with an opening like "How was practice coach?"

OaktownBear;733936 said:

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You guys should actually watch the press conference - it was posted on here. It's 11 minutes long.

1. It's a two way conversation. With respect to Kline, he was basically asked about how he was adjusting to college, how he relates to the other players, and how he was picking up the offense. So those were the answers you got. He praised his leadership, knowledge, sense of humor, said he works with the players well and has confidence. Funny thing is you say you want him to comment about him learning the playbook - he was asked and he answered that Kline is picking up the offense as fast as any freshman we've ever had. I don't think there was a lot of substance there, nor do I think that was likely after a few practices, but you can't blame him for answering the questions he was asked instead of the one's you wish he was asked. For instance, if you watch when he was asked about Bridgford, the questions directed him more in your area, and he had high praise specifically for his accuracy and said he was healthy now.

2. If you actually watch the press conference, there was a lot of good info there. I really don't know what it is you guys want a coach to say - he's answering questions about spring practice. You would find out that the DLine has stood out. Richard Rodgers has looked really good. Jason Gibson was singled out as playing well, and he has moved inside. Also mentioned Forbes on the inside, and said we've moved Wilkerson there, but he's been hurt. Sebastian had a good practice after being nicked up much of the time. The pass protection has apparently been terrible as we've tried to rotate guys in. Maurice Harris has the best hands on the team and a really good frame. Our WR situation won't be settled til late fall. Clay isn't coming back. CDJ is transferring. That's off the top of my head - go watch yourself.

Yes, when they ask stupid general questions like how was practice coach? you get coach speak. When they ask specific questions about who has stood out this spring, he tells you. I really don't know what information you are looking to get that you could realistically expect that he did not give you.

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Don't you know that the majority of people who comment on the internet neither read the article or follow through the links. They just want to rant their uninformed opinion.

liverflukes;733786 said:

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I would like to see some different quotes for once and to see some real emotion from the coach on a blue chip learning the system. Having a good sense of humor is great but how about "the kid has a rifle as an arm...I think he will take some records at Cal from what I've seen." Would that be such a terrible thing to say for the fan base?

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Being too emotional and excessively praising the players would just get Tedford in even more trouble with the fans. Fans are already upset that Briggs hasn't become Beast Mode Jr. and Maynard isn't setting rushing records for a QB. If Tedford did that for all the players, we'd be perpetually disappointed (even more than we are now) and no one would trust Tedford's ability to gauge talent.