Dont care if this is a booth.

http://seats3d.com/ncaa/university_california_berkeley/football/#/level_2/my_account/

:gobears::gobears::gobears::gobears:

Still danged cool. Think that's the final size of the scoreboards?

Can't wait for this thing to open.

:woohoo

Cal 14 USC 10 is quite possibly the best part!

~MrGPAC

OldenBear;841898143 said:

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Still danged cool. Think that's the final size of the scoreboards?

Can't wait for this thing to open.

:woohoo

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I walked by the stadium last weekend and, although they are completely wrapped, the scoreboards are exactly the same size as before. What's good though, is that they are reportedly all screen, so can be configured in different ways, much like what you see at AT&T Park and some of the other newer stadiums.

I do wonder if we'll be able to see stats, close plays or scores of other games, though. Undoubtedly, we'll see the ads, promos and hide-the-oski games in full screen, ear-piercing, surround sound.

MrGPAC;841898148 said:

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Cal 14 USC 10 is quite possibly the best part!

~MrGPAC

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Kind of funny that the creators of these graphics couldn't bring themselves to give us a bigger lead. Then again, as we haven't had a lead of any size against the Trojans since the second quarter of the 2007 game, I can hardly blame them.

(This momentary lapse into nega-Beartivity has been sponsored by StubHub...the official site of Bear fans who like to sell their tickets to fans of the opposing team.)

Sweet! I hadn't seen a rendering of the clubs before. I'm going to have to try to get some ESP tickets for one of the games this year.

You know, I never been to the other side of the stadium facing the student section. Never noticed the amazing view of the hills in the background.

Call me bias but I seriously think we have the nicest college football stadium with the best views in the nation.

GO BEARS!

Adrian The Cal Bear;841898219 said:

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You know, I never been to the other side of the stadium facing the student section. Never noticed the amazing view of the hills in the background.

Call me bias but I seriously think we have the nicest college football stadium with the best views in the nation.

GO BEARS!

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Think we have the nicest college stadium with the best view? We do have the nicest stadium with the best view

Bear_Territory;841898222 said:

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Think we have the nicest college stadium with the best view? We do have the nicest stadium with the best view

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Which is an upgrade from what we used to have: A decrepit stadium with the best view

Bear_Territory;841898222 said:

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Think we have the nicest college stadium with the best view? We do have the nicest stadium with the best view

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:beer:

:gobears:

So is that what they decided for the end zone designs?

After showing this to my brother, it looks like we're jumping on the ESP bandwagon. Whoooo!

socaliganbear;841898319 said:

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After showing this to my brother, it looks like we're jumping on the ESP bandwagon. Whoooo!

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Nice! Good for you.

Last week I went through the CMS tour and ESP sales pitch. Although it would be nice to pay the big bucks to sit in the high rent district, I can't justify the extra cost (considering I need to save for my three young kids that I hope go to college).

ESP seats and amenities are pretty freakin sweet. Enjoy!

Is the Campanile in the correct area in those pics. I selected what I think were the highest seats just above student section (might be a handicap section) to see the view. Off to the right just next to the north score board was the tower. I thought it would have been a little farther to the left. My memory must be going.

UCBerkGrad;841898391 said:

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Nice! Good for you.

Last week I went through the CMS tour and ESP sales pitch. Although it would be nice to pay the big bucks to sit in the high rent district, I can't justify the extra cost (considering I need to save for my three young kids that I hope go to college).

ESP seats and amenities are pretty freakin sweet. Enjoy!

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No doubt man, ill continue to enjoy bachelor life for a while longer.

CALiforniALUM;841898392 said:

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Is the Campanile in the correct area in those pics. I selected what I think were the highest seats just above student section (might be a handicap section) to see the view. Off to the right just next to the north score board was the tower. I thought it would have been a little farther to the left. My memory must be going.

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Well, if you look at a map of the stadium, you will see that it really runs more northwest-southeast, rather than straight north-south. That makes it "pointed" more toward the Campanile than you might have thought and thus it appears more to the right than you may also have thought. I too have noticed this in renderings and wondered the same thing.

Nice views from the new press box structure. Cal should figure out ways to make money off the view (someone said they will host things like receptions) but also do some public event up there to showcase it as well. I'd put in a bar up there open a couple of nights a week with some fancy well made cocktails.

So anyone know how to make a million dollars by fall? I need some University Club seats.

add a 3D rendering from Tightwad and the Cannon perch as well.

Now that would make the sight go from "Cool" to "Awsome".

Bears2thDoc;841898874 said:

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add a 3D rendering from Tightwad and the Cannon perch as well.

Now that would make the sight go from "Cool" to "Awsome".

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Not sure if there was much of a financial incentive to do that, unless they've figured out a way to sell "executive" seating up there.

http://seats3d.com/ncaa/university_california_berkeley/football/#/level_3/my_account/

What happened to the Andy Smith Memorial bench?

...cause this is the east facing view from my old seats in UU:



:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:

Bump.

southseasbear;841898957 said:

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What happened to the Andy Smith Memorial bench?

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Supposedly, the plan is to place the Andy Smith Bench at the top of the Grand Staircase outside the North Tunnel. No kidding.

The Andy Smith Bench is not slated to return to its rightful place on the Cal sidelines at midfield.

Personally, I think this is a great mistake. Not just because the decision is not in keeping with tradition, but because I think it make the Andy Smith Bench (ASB) vulnerable to vandalism. I think it also presents the ASB as a target of vandalism.

My guess is that the ASB will be tagged a number of times in the months following its placement. At which point, the issue of placement will be revisited and the bench will either (1) be removed from the Stadium altogether or (2) returned to its rightful space.

And if you think that I find the planned placement to be disgraceful, you would be right. This is a huge mistake. I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

Recirculated Subsequent Environmental Impact Report

Check out the top of page 39, which starts with, "The granite bench that immortalizes Andy Smith,..." is a discussion about the placement of the ASB at the completion of the construction.

This sections asserts: "...relocating the bench also improves sightlines for fans seated on the east of the Stadium, on the 50 yard line."

I find that assertion to be absurd.

FiatSlug;841899157 said:

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Recirculated Subsequent Environmental Impact Report

Check out the top of page 39, which starts with, "The granite bench that immortalizes Andy Smith,..." is a discussion about the placement of the ASB at the completion of the construction.

This sections asserts: "...relocating the bench also improves sightlines for fans seated on the east of the Stadium, on the 50 yard line."

I find that assertion to be absurd.

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Wasn't the field lowered some four feet to alleviate any sight-line problems for fans in lower rows? How did they manage before when the bench was there?

CalBear68;841899165 said:

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Wasn't the field lowered some four feet to alleviate any sight-line problems for fans in lower rows? How did they manage before when the bench was there?

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Yes, the field was lowered by 4.5 feet (as per the Recirculated SEIR linked in my earlier post). In fact, the discussion on this very point was just before the discussion on the Andy Smith Bench, at the end of page 38.

I can't remember anyone complaining that their sightline was negatively affected by the ASB at anytime in the old configuration. The ASB was set close enough to the stands that it made no difference to the sightlines anywhere in the stadium.

Lowering the field by 4.5 feet means that leaving the ASB on the Cal sidelines will have no impact on sightlines for fans (read: students) in the lowest rows of Sections S and SS. It will also have no impact on anyone else in the lowest rows of Sections R, RR, T, or TT (sections closest to S & SS).

The new field perimeter walkway is about 2 feet wider than the original field perimeter walkway. I base this upon comparing images from StadiumCam.

The perimeter walkway is wider to accommodate both foot traffic and wheelchair traffic and placement (ADA accommodations). This will cut down on the space on the sidelines on both sides of the field. The sidelines in the old configuration were already some of the narrowest in college football.

If this is the real reason for moving the ASB, then say so. The arguments put forth for moving the ASB are absurd.

FiatSlug;841899157 said:

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Recirculated Subsequent Environmental Impact Report

Check out the top of page 39, which starts with, "The granite bench that immortalizes Andy Smith,..." is a discussion about the placement of the ASB at the completion of the construction.

This sections asserts: "...relocating the bench also improves sightlines for fans seated on the east of the Stadium, on the 50 yard line."

I find that assertion to be absurd.

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If students can see over the heads of players standing on the sidelines, they certainly can see over the much lower Andy Smith Memorial Bench!

If they can't fit it in the stadium how about relocating it to the Eucalyptus Grove (near the Football Players statue) or Faculty Glade (near the Pappy Waldorf statue) so those of us who come from BART can pass these mementos on our way to the games?

southseasbear;841899306 said:

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If students can see over the heads of players standing on the sidelines, they certainly can see over the much lower Andy Smith Memorial Bench!

If they can't fit it in the stadium how about relocating it to the Eucalyptus Grove (near the Football Players statue) or Faculty Glade (near the Pappy Waldorf statue) so those of us who come from BART can pass these mementos on our way to the games?

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They can fit it in the stadium. They just don't want to.

FiatSlug;841899314 said:

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They can fit it in the stadium. They just don't want to.

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I could be real snarky and say the Coach Tedford doesn't want any reminders in the stadium that Cal used to be a top, winning program, in days long ago, before he arrived, but I won't do that.

Andy Smith did not kick field goals when it was 4th and 1 from the 1 yard line.

FiatSlug;841899176 said:

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This will cut down on the space on the sidelines on both sides of the field. The sidelines in the old configuration were already some of the narrowest in college football.

If this is the real reason for moving the ASB, then say so. The arguments put forth for moving the ASB are absurd.

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The sidelines at CMS are actually quite large because of the arc of the bowl, especially compared to any college stadium that has flat seating sections along the sidelines. I remember looking at some google satellite images and I think only the Rose Bowl has more sideline space that Cal in the Pac 12.

Space is not a problem either. Unless there are incidents of the bench causing injuries when players are tackled into it, it should be left on the sideline. Even then, it will be farther away from the field than the stadium wall at many major CFB stadiums.

southseasbear;841898957 said:

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What happened to the Andy Smith Memorial bench?

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Just wanted to elevate this thread, um, for no particular reason (to write about here).

Not entirely unrelated link:
http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=841900132#poststop

#GoBears!