You all probably expected this one, but here it is -

Yup. Not a surprise. I hope he is happy and does well. We'll be fine.

LOL....I just read this in the CC Times and was going to post the same. Before all the naysayers get excited, Hutchings was a USC lean way back when Tosh was here so no surprise. Still disappointing but not unexpected.

Quote:

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"A lot went into the process, but it came down to the combination of academics and athletics," Hutchings said. "I talked with (Athletic Director) Pat Haden at length and he reminded me of the school's high standards and tradition. It reminded me a lot of where I'm attending now (De La Salle)."

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-recruiting/19456584/top-100-linebacker-michael-hutchings-picks-usc

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"A lot went into the process, but it came down to the combination of academics and athletics," Hutchings said. "I talked with (Athletic Director) Pat Haden at length and he reminded me of the school's high standards and tradition. It reminded me a lot of where I'm attending now (De La Salle)."

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http://www.maxpreps.com/blogs/maxwire-national-blog/MI5QJqJISUeMajtWZF04OQ/no-100-recruit-michael-hutchings-picks-usc.htm

Rather Sc than tosh and the puppies.

Oh well. I can't believe I'm actually relieved he went to SC instead of UW. Sometimes, I really hate what CFB does to me. Glad I never got my hopes up on him and he didn't draw this out.

I hope we can get the other De La Salle boys. That makes 11 for SC. At this rate, they'll hand pick their last 7 and take the rest of the year off I guess.

I don't think that most of us are surprised by this. I can see the attraction. I echo what others are saying about him going to $C rather than UO or UDub.

yes, wish we had him, but fare thee well, on to the next for us.

this whole tosh fiasco just made SC stronger.

Better you guys than the leg humpers...

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

NYCGOBEARS;841905506 said:

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

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Something like that.

Truthfully though, I hate every school in the PAC 12 except Cal.

liverflukes;841905510 said:

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Truthfully though, I hate every school in the PAC 12 except Cal.

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That's more like it!!!

Thank god it's not UW and to$h. Another recruit left from our backyard lol..jk
I haven't said that enough.

SC is not in our division and will hoard talent regardless. Best of luck to Hutch, he looks like a special player.

Not sure why people feel compelled to end with some sort of "we'll be fine" phrase at the end of news like this. What does that mean? In the large scheme of things, yes, the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on, football is no big deal. As far as our gridiron fortunes are concerned, I've seen little the last few years to convince me that
"we'll be fine." I don't think we are fine now. I hope we turn this around.
Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick on language, but I just can't help wondering, as our
program continues to slip farther down in the Pac-12, what exactly does "we'll be fine"
really mean? Go Bears!

NYCGOBEARS;841905506 said:

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

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SC really isn't your enemy. The only reason you dislike SC is because of the program's success and your failure.

:bluecarrot:

CalBarn;841905606 said:

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Not sure why people feel compelled to end with some sort of "we'll be fine" phrase at the end of news like this. What does that mean? In the large scheme of things, yes, the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on, football is no big deal. As far as our gridiron fortunes are concerned, I've seen little the last few years to convince me that
"we'll be fine." I don't think we are fine now. I hope we turn this around.
Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick on language, but I just can't help wondering, as our
program continues to slip farther down in the Pac-12, what exactly does "we'll be fine"
really mean? Go Bears!

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We'll be fine.

CalBarn;841905606 said:

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Not sure why people feel compelled to end with some sort of "we'll be fine" phrase at the end of news like this. What does that mean? In the large scheme of things, yes, the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on, football is no big deal. As far as our gridiron fortunes are concerned, I've seen little the last few years to convince me that
"we'll be fine." I don't think we are fine now. I hope we turn this around.
Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick on language, but I just can't help wondering, as our
program continues to slip farther down in the Pac-12, what exactly does "we'll be fine"
really mean? Go Bears!

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I agree. The "will be fine" thing is confusing. What does that mean? Does it mean will be mediocre and finish with a class similar to those of the tree sitter era. Does it mean we will be top 15? It's such a broad statement. Last time this year all I heard was grumblings that the class was going to be historic. This year it's "will be fine". sigh

Uhh....this is my take on the phrase "we'll be fine"......right now here is the current Yahoo Sports recruiting rankings for the Pac 12 based on player stars recruited so far:


1. USC
2. Washington
3. Arizona
4. Oregon
5. UCLA
6. Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Washington State
9. Arizona State
10. California

Tied for 12th Utah and Oregon State

From the above, Cal ain't doin' too good at this time. So, "we'll be fine" means, and I'm only conjecturing here, of course, by LOI day Cal may go from tenth to maybe seventh?..er...okay....maybe even sixth...wow!

I, however, am not too sure that Cal "will be fine"...recruiting seems to be connected to coaching, particularly headcoaching. In UDub's case, maybe the recruiting fortunes are related to assistant coaches? In any event, UDub's recent recruitng haul has something to do with the appearance of trending program vibrance due to whatever reason more than the number of stars per player (which ain't shabby by Cal's standards)...but whatever the reason, Cal is increasingly demonstrating that it may not have such......this is what's scarey to me or at least disheartening......

I don't think Tedford (and his present staff) is capable of affecting a reversal of the above trend. I'm not saying Cal won't regain such, if it ever has recently had such, where maybe someone like Kline can garner increased vibrance (to the young) in Cal football with future wins...

Oh, Cal won't be too bad next season. Cal has players, but fair or not, Maynard consistently
throwing to his brother for his NFL career ain't going to cut it for Cal's future fortunes.........sigh.........

Blueblood;841905630 said:

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Uhh....this is my take on the phrase "we'll be fine"......right now here is the current Yahoo Sports recruiting rankings for the Pac 12 based on player stars recruited so far:


1. USC
2. Washington
3. Arizona
4. Oregon
5. UCLA
6. Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Washington State
9. Arizona State
10. California

Tied for 12th Utah and Oregon State

From the above, Cal ain't doin' too good at this time. So, "we'll be fine" means, and I'm only conjecturing here, of course, by LOI day Cal may go from tenth to maybe seventh?..er...okay....maybe even sixth...wow!

I, however, am not too sure that Cal "will be fine"...recruiting seems to be connected to coaching, particularly headcoaching. In UDub's case, maybe the recruiting fortunes are related to assistant coaches? In any event, UDub's recent recruitng haul has something to do with the appearance of trending program vibrance due to whatever reason more than the number of stars per player (which ain't shabby by Cal's standards)...but whatever the reason, Cal is increasingly demonstrating that it may not have such......this is what's scarey to me or at least disheartening......

I don't think Tedford (and his present staff) is capable of affecting a reversal of the above trend. I'm not saying Cal won't regain such, if it ever has recently had such, where maybe someone like Kline can garner increased vibrance (to the young) in Cal football with future wins...

Oh, Cal won't be too bad next season. Cal has players, but fair or not, Maynard consistently
throwing to his brother for his NFL career ain't going to cut it for Cal's future fortunes.........sigh.........

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Wow- this is the first time I actually understood a Blueblood post, and it made logical, straight forward points. What is this world coming to?

Actually, it's just that your reading skills are improving because you've reached your senior year in high school! ....but thank you for your nice words..... 8>)

we'll be fine = status quo. 7-5's and all the vegas bowl trips vs mormon teams ya can handle

Blueblood;841905630 said:

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Uhh....this is my take on the phrase "we'll be fine"......right now here is the current Yahoo Sports recruiting rankings for the Pac 12 based on player stars recruited so far:


1. USC
2. Washington
3. Arizona
4. Oregon
5. UCLA
6. Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Washington State
9. Arizona State
10. California

Tied for 12th Utah and Oregon State

From the above, Cal ain't doin' too good at this time. So, "we'll be fine" means, and I'm only conjecturing here, of course, by LOI day Cal may go from tenth to maybe seventh?..er...okay....maybe even sixth...wow!

I, however, am not too sure that Cal "will be fine"...recruiting seems to be connected to coaching, particularly headcoaching. In UDub's case, maybe the recruiting fortunes are related to assistant coaches? In any event, UDub's recent recruitng haul has something to do with the appearance of trending program vibrance due to whatever reason more than the number of stars per player (which ain't shabby by Cal's standards)...but whatever the reason, Cal is increasingly demonstrating that it may not have such......this is what's scarey to me or at least disheartening......

I don't think Tedford (and his present staff) is capable of affecting a reversal of the above trend. I'm not saying Cal won't regain such, if it ever has recently had such, where maybe someone like Kline can garner increased vibrance (to the young) in Cal football with future wins...

Oh, Cal won't be too bad next season. Cal has players, but fair or not, Maynard consistently
throwing to his brother for his NFL career ain't going to cut it for Cal's future fortunes.........sigh.........

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Reviewing the last 10 years of JT recruiting at Cal shows he has has always had problems signing the elite Norcal guys. For every Derek Hill there is a Josh Tatum and Michael Hutchings. For every Marshawn Lynch there is a Justin Davis and Jeff Schweiger. This is just par for the course I am afraid.

I can see that. DLS never struck me (or my son) as an academic powerhouse. Sports seemed as important as school. Just sayin'. I didn't have a big problem with this, btw.

82gradDLSdad;841905660 said:

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I can see that. DLS never struck me (or my son) as an academic powerhouse. Sports seemed as important as school. Just sayin'. I didn't have a big problem with this, btw.

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Exactly. IMHO, the school seems like a Mater Dei north with average academics which may explain the kids' interest in the UO's, AZ, and Suc's of the world. Back in the 80's and 90's, a lot of bright kids commuted to Servite if they were in the OC.....and didn't have the luck of being able to attend a free public school that was the caliber of a Corona del Mar, University high, Woodbridge, or Troy. Meanwhile, a lot of cerebral types like Leinart went to Mater Dei. I have a son who is on track to be 6'4-6'5 220-230 by the time he is in HS and I am exploring private schools with respectable athletics if I decide to not send him to Berkeley High. So far, there are not a lot of recommendations for DLS but I get Head Royce mentioned quite a bit by the Cal/Furd alum parents that I know. If this perception is way off base with regards to DLS please chime in fellow ursine.

CalBarn;841905606 said:

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Not sure why people feel compelled to end with some sort of "we'll be fine" phrase at the end of news like this. What does that mean? In the large scheme of things, yes, the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on, football is no big deal. As far as our gridiron fortunes are concerned, I've seen little the last few years to convince me that
"we'll be fine." I don't think we are fine now. I hope we turn this around.
Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick on language, but I just can't help wondering, as our
program continues to slip farther down in the Pac-12, what exactly does "we'll be fine"
really mean? Go Bears!

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Couldn't help but generate this.

CalBarn;841905606 said:

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Not sure why people feel compelled to end with some sort of "we'll be fine" phrase at the end of news like this. What does that mean? In the large scheme of things, yes, the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on, football is no big deal. As far as our gridiron fortunes are concerned, I've seen little the last few years to convince me that
"we'll be fine." I don't think we are fine now. I hope we turn this around.
Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick on language, but I just can't help wondering, as our
program continues to slip farther down in the Pac-12, what exactly does "we'll be fine"
really mean? Go Bears!

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I'm pretty sure that "we'll be fine" is very specifically referring to our recruiting prospects on the year. The reason why people say this is because this is recruiting news. One place the program has not been slipping over the past years is in recruiting ranking. Ergo, it's not unreasonable that people are optimistic or confident in Cal's ability to still pull a top 25 class in Feb '13 despite a bit of a slow start.

darby, did you know that your repetitive posts sound like the whinings of an uniformed little bitch?

you mention 4 players that got away:

tatum-accused of a date rape assault (do you have any daughters?) and transfered to sfcc and then missouri
schweiger-never played as sc and transfered to sjs and had no impact as a de there either
davis-has never played a down of college football and newby is considered a better prospect
hutching-has never played adown of college football and dls lb teammate barton is considered a better prospect

pretty sure javid and marshawn are the best bay area prospects for the last decade...would you disgagree with that?

go trojans!

Shocky1;841905759 said:

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darby, did you know that your repetitive posts sound like the whinings of an uniformed little bitch?

you mention 4 players that got away:

tatum-accused of a rape assault and transfered
schweiger-never played as sc and transfered to sjs and had no impact there either
davis-has never played a down of college football and newby is considered a better prospect
hutching-has never played adown of college football and dls lb teammate barton is considered a better prospect

pretty sure javid and marshawn are the best bay area prospects for the last decade...would you disgagree with that?

go trojans!

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Actually Hutchings is considered the better prospect. Also, never played a down of football isn't really a valid point as it's true for all HS prospects.

EDIT: Also Davis is also considered a better prospect than Newby I think.

Shocky1;841905759 said:

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darby, did you know that your repetitive posts sound like the whinings of an uniformed little bitch?

you mention 4 players that got away:

tatum-accused of a date rape assault (do you have any daughters?) and transfered to sfcc and then missouri
schweiger-never played as sc and transfered to sjs and had no impact as a de there either
davis-has never played a down of college football and newby is considered a better prospect
hutching-has never played adown of college football and dls lb teammate barton is considered a better prospect

pretty sure javid and marshawn are the best bay area prospects for the last decade...would you disgagree with that?

go trojans!

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WOW. You are the uniformed little bitch. 1. Hutchings is rated higher than barton.

2. Davis is a higher rated prospect than newby.

You got some great players, ok. If you're going to talk at least know what you're talking about.

Shocky1;841905759 said:

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darby, did you know that your repetitive posts sound like the whinings of an uniformed little bitch?

you mention 4 players that got away:

tatum-accused of a date rape assault (do you have any daughters?) and transfered to sfcc and then missouri
schweiger-never played as sc and transfered to sjs and had no impact as a de there either
davis-has never played a down of college football and newby is considered a better prospect
hutching-has never played adown of college football and dls lb teammate barton is considered a better prospect

pretty sure javid and marshawn are the best bay area prospects for the last decade...would you disgagree with that?

go trojans!

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LOL. If you are going to troll me at least get your facts straight. Another LOL for you bashing me on Tatum and then claiming a Cal player who has a solid rap sheet himself.

I am too lazy to go over to other site and dig up the rankings but its common knowledge JT has never cornered the market on 4/5 star Norcal talent. Many of those kids were solid college players. But there is really no point digging into all that at this point as it is water under the bridge.

GoBears58;841905742 said:

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Exactly. IMHO, the school seems like a Mater Dei north with average academics which may explain the kids' interest in the UO's, AZ, and Suc's of the world. Back in the 80's and 90's, a lot of bright kids commuted to Servite if they were in the OC.....and didn't have the luck of being able to attend a free public school that was the caliber of a Corona del Mar, University high, Woodbridge, or Troy. Meanwhile, a lot of cerebral types like Leinart went to Mater Dei. I have a son who is on track to be 6'4-6'5 220-230 by the time he is in HS and I am exploring private schools with respectable athletics if I decide to not send him to Berkeley High. So far, there are not a lot of recommendations for DLS but I get Head Royce mentioned quite a bit by the Cal/Furd alum parents that I know. If this perception is way off base with regards to DLS please chime in fellow ursine.

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If your kid wants to excel in academics he can at DLS. If your kid is an average student they will support him. My son fell into the later category. He loved going to DLS and he was neither a great student nor a great athlete. With that said, there are some sports at DLS that are brutal with regards to time requirements and that will be hard on your son unless he is a very gifted student.

82gradDLSdad;841905904 said:

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If your kid wants to excel in academics he can at DLS. If your kid is an average student they will support him. My son fell into the later category. He loved going to DLS and he was neither a great student nor a great athlete. With that said, there are some sports at DLS that are brutal with regards to time requirements and that will be hard on your son unless he is a very gifted student.

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Thanks for your gracious and honest reply. My son is gifted but I am afraid he will slack if he is not surrounded by academic go getters. I was a football player in the honors program at Servite (with a lot of studious nerdy types) but would have surfed all morning and slacked off if I went to Newport Harbor. I feel that my son may have inherited that from me. However, he has some potential in FB and BB and I would love to find a solid mix of athletics and an academic environment that will surround him with talent as well. Berkeley high is a world away from what I experienced and my son is a little anxious about it as well.

GoBears58;841905921 said:

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Thanks for your gracious and honest reply. My son is gifted but I am afraid he will slack if he is not surrounded by academic go getters. I was a football player in the honors program at Servite (with a lot of studious nerdy types) but would have surfed all morning and slacked off if I went to Newport Harbor. I feel that my son may have inherited that from me. However, he has some potential in FB and BB and I would love to find a solid mix of athletics and an academic environment that will surround him with talent as well. Berkeley high is a world away from what I experienced and my son is a little anxious about it as well.

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I may be out of touch by now but back in the day, (talking 20 years ago or so), Bishop O'Dowd in Oakland was considered a pretty good balance between athletics and academics. Not too far at all from Berkeley.

AZGoldenBear;841905774 said:

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WOW. You are the uniformed little bitch. 1. Hutchings is rated higher than barton.

2. Davis is a higher rated prospect than newby.

You got some great players, ok. If you're going to talk at least know what you're talking about.

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AZ, from your recent posts on recruiting (re: UW, Darrell Daniels, etc.) it seems like you don't know much about recruiting. and if you DID know anything about recruiting, you'd realize that rankings aren't the be-all-end-all. even one of DLS's own coaches has whispered that Hutchings wasn't the best linebacker on the DLS squad last season. or the 2nd best. or even 3rd best.

so why don't you go watch some tapes, compare Barton and Hutch's games, and then comment on ratings. go see who actually balled out in the big games last season and who was just being hyped up. there's a reason why Hutch's oh so precious ranking has already dropped significantly since the last ranking updates.

i wanted to see barton and hutch and nickerson play together ... oh well