According to wikipedia.

Apparently, Ivy's have acceptance rates in the 40%s.

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UC Irvine is considered a Public Ivy and offers 80 undergraduate degrees and 98 graduate and professional degrees.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uc_irvine

You can stop laughing now...

My uber conservative friend also tells me it basically is a host to terror cells on campus. Of course, it's my uber conservative friend telling me this. I have no idea.

The thing about wiki is you can always edit it.

ColoradoBear1;842139989 said:

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The thing about wiki is you can always edit it.

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Yeah, it makes me so aggravated when people threaten the "integrity" of wikipedia by doing stupid sh*t like that (including some Cal fans on this board). Still, it's one of the only institutions to which I make regular financial contributions.

No comment on the terrorism cells notion by KAB's friend (don't want to get "flagged" by the NSA/DHS).

Safety school . . .

OskiMD;842139992 said:

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Yeah, it makes me so aggravated when people threaten the "integrity" of wikipedia by doing stupid sh*t like that (including some Cal fans on this board). Still, it's one of the only institutions to which I make regular financial contributions.

No comment on the terrorism cells notion by KAB's friend (don't want to get "flagged" by the NSA/DHS).

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Too late. You have already said the magic word.

BancroftSteps;842139994 said:

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Safety school . . .

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UCI is pretty much your safety school's (UCLA) safety school's (UCSD) safety school (UCD, UCI, etc.).

GivemTheAxe;842140005 said:

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Too late. You have already said the magic word.

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Yup. If I am found dead this week . . . it was murder!

Researchers followed 491 students for four years at three selective UC campuses -- UC Berkeley, UCLA and UC San Diego. The researchers compared the group's grades, accumulated credits and likelihood of dropping out to two other groups. . . . The other group chose to attend less competitive UC campuses, or those schools with average acceptance rates of 59 percent......The grade-point average and credits accrued in college by the lesser-qualified students were "almost identical" to their better prepared peers, the study found. Furthermore, the lower-ranking students who attended elite colleges were much more likely to stay in college than their counterparts who went to other UC campuses.


So lesser qualified/prepared student do better at the elite UC's than they do at the other UC's.

OskiMD;842139984 said:

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According to wikipedia.

Apparently, Ivy's have acceptance rates in the 40%s.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uc_irvine

You can stop laughing now...

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4. Harvard
6. Princeton
9. Cal
11. Yale
13. UCLA
14. Columbia
15. Penn
18. Cornell
35. UCSB
38. UCSD
44. UCD
51. Brown
96. UCI
122. UCSC
124. Dartmouth

calumnus;842140058 said:

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4. Harvard
6. Princeton
9. Cal
11. Yale
13. UCLA
14. Columbia
15. Penn
18. Cornell
35. UCSB
38. UCSD
44. UCD
51. Brown
96. UCI
122. UCSC
124. Dartmouth

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Sure, but between Dartmouth vs UCI... who is getting that financial job in NYC? Much different than who might be better at cancer research or whatever.

OskiMD;842139984 said:

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According to wikipedia.

Apparently, Ivy's have acceptance rates in the 40%s.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uc_irvine

You can stop laughing now...

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Not a fan of disparaging other learning institutions, especially when we're not even competing with them athletically. I've been told that Cal grads can come across as a bit arrogant, and posts like these certainly don't help.

YuSeeBerkeley;842140075 said:

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Not a fan of disparaging other learning institutions, especially when we're not even competing with them athletically. I've been told that Cal grads can come across as a bit arrogant, and posts like these certainly don't help.

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You've been told Cal grads come off as arrogant? Did you actually go to school at Cal? Because if you did, you'd know a lot of Cal grads and current students are very arrogant. You don't have to be told anything on that one. LOL.

ColoradoBear1;842140065 said:

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Sure, but between Dartmouth vs UCI... who is getting that financial job in NYC? Much different than who might be better at cancer research or whatever.

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Part of it I believe is that the rankings are heavily influenced by grad programs and research. Dartmouth is basically the liberal arts ivy; fantastic for undergrad, but aside from Tuck and maybe their med school their grad programs are nothing to write home about.

YuSeeBerkeley;842140075 said:

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Not a fan of disparaging other learning institutions, especially when we're not even competing with them athletically. I've been told that Cal grads can come across as a bit arrogant, and posts like these certainly don't help.

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Yeah but at least we can back up our arrogance. USC on the other hand....

That being said, it does kind of suck from an ego perspective to go to UCI. At least if you don't get into Cal and go to UCLA you can claim it was because you wanted to be in socal.

ColoradoBear1;842140077 said:

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You've been told Cal grads come off as arrogant? Did you actually go to school at Cal? Because if you did, you'd know a lot of Cal grads and current students are very arrogant. You don't have to be told anything on that one. LOL.

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Haha, fair enough. Good point.

ColoradoBear1;842140077 said:

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You've been told Cal grads come off as arrogant? Did you actually go to school at Cal? Because if you did, you'd know a lot of Cal grads and current students are very arrogant. You don't have to be told anything on that one. LOL.

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It makes me feel better about myself.

George Michael Bluth attended UC Irvine.

UC Irvine is in a really nice area generally - close to Laguna, CDM etc.

Was in that area for the first time recently. (Not a fan of toll roads!)

Public? Yes
Ivy? No

SmellinRoses;842140124 said:

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UC Irvine is in a really nice area generally - close to Laguna, CDM etc.

Was in that area for the first time recently. (Not a fan of toll roads!)

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Live in the area. Have been to the school a lot. It is one of those colleges that doesn't feel like college (Cal, UCLA, 'furd, Harvard, Northwestern, Colorado, Virginia, UDub, etc.). It has that UCSD or UCSC feel. Probably the lack of FB, but something just does not feel like college, even though it is. Even though the education is probably better at UCI, I would rather have gone to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo or UC Davis, so it is not a snob appeal thing, but a feeling of what college should be.

OdontoBear66;842140129 said:

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Live in the area. Have been to the school a lot. It is one of those colleges that doesn't feel like college (Cal, UCLA, 'furd, Harvard, Northwestern, Colorado, Virginia, UDub, etc.). It has that UCSD or UCSC feel. Probably the lack of FB, but something just does not feel like college, even though it is. Even though the education is probably better at UCI, I would rather have gone to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo or UC Davis, so it is not a snob appeal thing, but a feeling of what college should be.

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UCSC feels like a college. UCI is a commuter school.

calumnus;842140058 said:

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4. Harvard
6. Princeton
9. Cal
11. Yale
13. UCLA
14. Columbia
15. Penn
18. Cornell
35. UCSB
38. UCSD
44. UCD
51. Brown
96. UCI
122. UCSC
124. Dartmouth

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UCSD is below UCSB in this ranking? Wow, I'm surprised. I thought that UCSD was the clear #3 in the UC system, and rising quickly.

SoCalBear323;842140135 said:

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UCSC feels like a college. UCI is a commuter school.

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Yeah, it's the combination of almost all
new buildings, little walkability outside campus, no football and the biggest factor is definitely the huge number of commuters.

hanky1;842140137 said:

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Why all the animosity towards one of our fellow UC schools? Geez...a bit snooty it seems to me.

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I agree....in fact, if someone goes to Boise State and loves it and has the time of his life and learns something, then all the power to them. I'd rather think the measure of a man/woman resides in their character and not what school they went to....employers can measure that.

Exceptions made for the Furd and SUC.....

hanky1;842140137 said:

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Why all the animosity towards one of our fellow UC schools? Geez...a bit snooty it seems to me.

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+1

Im fine with making fun of schools like U$C but not a fellow UC. UCI is a good school in it's own regard. Why bag on them?

I know their law school is on it's way to becoming a top 30 school.

BGGB2;842140136 said:

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UCSD is below UCSB in this ranking? Wow, I'm surprised. I thought that UCSD was the clear #3 in the UC system, and rising quickly.

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I think so, especially in the sciences. UCSD has the benefit of the support of a large prosperous metropolitan area. I also think that UCSD attracts more academically oriented students, largely due to UCSB's party-school reputation. UCSB does attract quality faculty though. I am fairly certain both schools' faculty are superior to Dartmouth's.

OP, what a b.s. post!

Whether some arrogant fools are willing to admit it, the reality is that most of the UCs are pretty similar from and undergrad standpoint and most very worthy of the "public Ivy" moniker. Quality programs and quality students at all the schools. Yes, Cal is slightly more selective (only slightly...the other UCs are catching up in this regard), but this doesn't mean the quality of instruction any better.

At my company there are all sorts of fresh UC grads: Cal, UCLA, Davis, Irvine, San Diego. All are very competent and qualified employees.

UCB and UCLA have a leg up over the other longstanding UCs in athletics, but in undergrad academics, nah. Speaking from experience here (intra-UC transfer).

No offense intended to UCI, believe it or not. I actually love all the UCs (except for Riverside and Merced or course!). I just thought it was laughable for one of the more "modest" UCs to be referred to as a "public Ivy," which itself is slightly disparaging of a term.

The last thing I want is for people to start calling Cal a "public Ivy"... since Cal is much more than just that.

OskiMD;842140198 said:

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No offense intended to UCI, believe it or not. I actually love all the UCs (except for Riverside and Merced or course!). I just thought it was laughable for one of the more "modest" UCs to be referred to as a "public Ivy," which itself is slightly disparaging of a term.

The last thing I want is for people to start calling Cal a "public Ivy"... since Cal is much more than just that.

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Let's be honest, most public universities aren't very good. That combined with Irvine being a decent school in its own right and it starts to make a lot more sense.

hummbabybear;842140123 said:

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George Michael Bluth attended UC Irvine.

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The Founder of that revolutionary FaceBlock?

osaycanUC;842140187 said:

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OP, what a b.s. post!

Whether some arrogant fools are willing to admit it, the reality is that most of the UCs are pretty similar from and undergrad standpoint and most very worthy of the "public Ivy" moniker. Quality programs and quality students at all the schools. Yes, Cal is slightly more selective (only slightly...the other UCs are catching up in this regard), but this doesn't mean the quality of instruction any better.

At my company there are all sorts of fresh UC grads: Cal, UCLA, Davis, Irvine, San Diego. All are very competent and qualified employees.

UCB and UCLA have a leg up over the other longstanding UCs in athletics, but in undergrad academics, nah. Speaking from experience here (intra-UC transfer).

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Maybe it's closer now, but when I applied to schools the kids that ended up at UCD/UCI weren't what I would call the smartest of the bunch. SAT scores of under 1200/1600, GPAs hover around 3.0, etc.

Honestly, I agree that the quality of instructors for undergrads are is similary across the UCs, but the difficulty of papers/projects/tests are totally different. If you accept that the quality of the average student goes down when you go down the UC totem pole, it's not surprising to see tests from UCI/UCD that are substantially easier than the ones at Cal and UCLA. I'll admit there were times when I wished I actually went to UCD/UCI instead and could be top dog there instead of just middle of the pack, but in hindsight the Cal calling card (especially in tech around Silicon Valley) is irreplaceable.

pingpong2;842140215 said:

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If you accept that the quality of the average student goes down when you go down the UC totem pole, it's not surprising to see tests from UCI/UCD that are substantially easier than the ones at Cal and UCLA.

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We'll have to agree to disagree...don't agree with that statement. I went to Cal and another "lesser" UC and found the student quality and drive to be comparable. Both schools had their fair share of geniuses and dummies. Personally I found the tests at the lesser UC to be harder. Maybe because the profs took the time to craft them personally (whereas at UCB that sort of task was often assigned to a GSI).

To lend some perspective, consider that the average incoming HS GPA for UC Davis freshman in 2013 is in the 4.2-4.3 range. Yeah, yeah, "grade inflation these days", but still. I can't imagine UCB incoming GPA profile being much higher. Source: http://www.theaggie.org/2013/04/11/admission-to-uc-davis-tougher-every-year/

The admit rate for UCD is now below 40%. The UCB admit rate is 21%. I'd imagine a measurable portion of the 79% rejected had no business applying in the first place, but checked the "Berkeley" box just in case luck was on their side. It's a big name and "ya never know"...that sort of thing. It's "Berkeley" so might as well check the box just in case. Anyway, if you exclude that pool of folks from the stats, the UCB admission rate would probably be a little higher (admittedly this is an assumption on my part). And thus again we see that the gulf between UCB stats and UCD stats is not so vast. Yes, Berkeley is a bit more selective, but this isn't a night-and-day difference we are talking about. Quality students fill both schools.

I guess since this started out with the public ivy comment that the entire focus here is on academics. I think that is pretty well sorted out by any number of rating services (which may disagree a bit in detail, but are generally similar).

As we assist our granddaughter with college selection I think you must consider a total experience. Of the UC campuses, I think Cal and UCLA, along with UCD offer that the most. The rest are unique in their own ways. After reading this thread I spoke to a neighbor who finished UCI a year ago and just finished a grad engineering program at Stanfurd in one year. What is the first thing that came out of his mouth about the two experiences: Well, Irvine was a good school, but it is a commuter school. Stanfurd had a sense of community.

I think all the UCs are very good academically, some better some worse, but when you look at the schools Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, San Diego and Irvine have feelings unique to themselves. We had a son graduate from UCSB. Great education, but I just couldn't imagine studying in a beach chair with sand underneath, along with no football on Saturdays. Not a bad feel, just very different. Our daughter graduated from Davis, and I felt it was very close to Cal, just scaled down.

In my previous post I mentioned a lot of campuses, public and private that give that good feel. JMO.