60 Minutes on QB guru Steve Clarkson

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okaydo
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Thoughts?
Bearacious
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Why hasn't Sonny offered those kids! Fire him!
NJCalFan
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Gould should do this for RBs.
heartofthebear
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I wonder why they didn't interview any parents of kids who didn't make it or Clarkson clients who ended up injured?

But, in Clarkson's defense, he seems like a genuine good guy with a system that really works and he is making dreams come true. How many corporate managers and CEOs can claim that.
82gradDLSdad
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I certainly don't blame Clarkson for carving out a lucrative career but I'm not a fan of this type of training AT THIS PRICE AND WITH THIS AMOUNT OF INTENSITY AT THE YOUNG AGES. I'm always a fan of great training but it just seems expensive and much too early for kids. I think it will also dilute the pool of QBs. As we've seen with baseball, there is quite a bit of high priced technique at the young ages that can over-shadow natural ability. And it causes those with natural ability but lack of funds to go find another activity. I have to say that a lot of those kids on that video look like average athletes that can go through all the requisite QB motions and given a good enough high school OL can probably win themselves a college scholarship. But as soon as they have to run around and make athletic plays while not in the 'proper' position a lot of them fall apart. I had to laugh that Montana sent his kids to Clarkson. Montana has a book on all this QB training and probably knows a thing or two more about what it takes to be a QB than Clarkson. Maybe Joe didn't have the time. Anyway, thanks for posting this. It is an interesting topic.
Bearacious
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With the expense of this training, just aid a few 'roids and they'll all end up at the Furd.
heartofthebear
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82gradDLSdad;842250210 said:

I certainly don't blame Clarkson for carving out a lucrative career but I'm not a fan of this type of training AT THIS PRICE AND WITH THIS AMOUNT OF INTENSITY AT THE YOUNG AGES. I'm always a fan of great training but it just seems expensive and much too early for kids. I think it will also dilute the pool of QBs. As we've seen with baseball, there is quite a bit of high priced technique at the young ages that can over-shadow natural ability. And it causes those with natural ability but lack of funds to go find another activity. I have to say that a lot of those kids on that video look like average athletes that can go through all the requisite QB motions and given a good enough high school OL can probably win themselves a college scholarship. But as soon as they have to run around and make athletic plays while not in the 'proper' position a lot of them fall apart. I had to laugh that Montana sent his kids to Clarkson. Montana has a book on all this QB training and probably knows a thing or two more about what it takes to be a QB than Clarkson. Maybe Joe didn't have the time. Anyway, thanks for posting this. It is an interesting topic.


His sons didn't turn all that great. Price beat one of them out at UW causing Nick to transfer. He ended up at Tulane where he cost them the bowl win on Saturday.

I agree that the high price could really come back to haunt some of these "well meaning" parents.
82gradDLSdad
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heartofthebear;842250219 said:

His sons didn't turn all that great. Price beat one of them out at UW causing Nick to transfer. He ended up at Tulane where he cost them the bowl win on Saturday.

I agree that the high price could really come back to haunt some of these "well meaning" parents.

I knew his sons were in trouble (football wise) when he transferred them into DLS and then promptly transferred them out.
okaydo
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heartofthebear;842250219 said:

His sons didn't turn all that great. Price beat one of them out at UW causing Nick to transfer. He ended up at Tulane where he cost them the bowl win on Saturday.

I agree that the high price could really come back to haunt some of these "well meaning" parents.


Is this the reason Montana isn't at the final Candlestick game tonight? I heard it was because of the bowl game, but if it already happened, why can't he be there tonight?


heartofthebear;842250197 said:

I wonder why they didn't interview any parents of kids who didn't make it or Clarkson clients who ended up injured?



Ha. We're talking about 60 Minutes here. The current 60 Minutes fellates people, doesn't challenge them. It's all about glowing profiles, even when it comes to controversial stuff like the NSA.
manus
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82gradDLSdad;842250220 said:

I knew his sons were in trouble (football wise) when he transferred them into DLS and then promptly transferred them out.


They do have an "accountability" system there, don't they.

After watching the Bosco v DLS game the other day, the DLS team has a lot of tough, gritty players

that Cal could use.

:gobears:
82gradDLSdad
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manus;842250231 said:

They do have an "accountability" system there, don't they.

After watching the Bosco v DLS game the other day, the DLS team has a lot of tough, gritty players

that Cal could use.

:gobears:

Yes, the DLS football program is not for everyone. In fact, I'd say it is so hard it is for very few. For the 100 or so kids that go out for freshman football (at least that was the count when my son was there in the early 2000s) there are usually only about 20 seniors that are introduced during senior night (at the games I've attended). It is a very rigorous program that doesn't play favorites.
BearyWhite
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82gradDLSdad;842250210 said:

I certainly don't blame Clarkson for carving out a lucrative career but I'm not a fan of this type of training AT THIS PRICE AND WITH THIS AMOUNT OF INTENSITY AT THE YOUNG AGES. I'm always a fan of great training but it just seems expensive and much too early for kids. I think it will also dilute the pool of QBs. As we've seen with baseball, there is quite a bit of high priced technique at the young ages that can over-shadow natural ability. And it causes those with natural ability but lack of funds to go find another activity. I have to say that a lot of those kids on that video look like average athletes that can go through all the requisite QB motions and given a good enough high school OL can probably win themselves a college scholarship. But as soon as they have to run around and make athletic plays while not in the 'proper' position a lot of them fall apart.

There was an article in the Chronicle recently about the state of youth sports training programs. Apparently US Soccer has decided to start funding camps for under-privileged kids because they found that it was the kids from the wealthier families coming up through the ranks and not necessarily the most talented, resulting in a mediocre talent pool nationally. Seems surprising in a country this big, but that was their assessment.
march2397
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BearyWhite;842250370 said:

There was an article in the Chronicle recently about the state of youth sports training programs. Apparently US Soccer has decided to start funding camps for under-privileged kids because they found that it was the kids from the wealthier families coming up through the ranks and not necessarily the most talented, resulting in a mediocre talent pool nationally. Seems surprising in a country this big, but that was their assessment.


What is this game you call soccer?
tenplay
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Roger Theder, former head coach at Cal, has been teaching young QBs for decades too. I wonder how they have been able to be so successful given their middling success as players and coaches. Clarkson charges $400/hour for private sessions. Wonder what Montana or Marino could charge?
82gradDLSdad
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tenplay;842250613 said:

Roger Theder, former head coach at Cal, has been teaching young QBs for decades too. I wonder how they have been able to be so successful given their middling success as players and coaches. Clarkson charges $400/hour for private sessions. Wonder what Montana or Marino could charge?

Theder has been a great OC/QB coach for decades. He just wasn't a good head coach. And good position coaching is definitely not the same as good head coaching or good playing. These are all separate and not necessarily related skills. Look at Sonny, he's never played college football but he is a good headc..., ah..., err..., wait, never mind.
GoCal1
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Guess this is an example of afluenza. Doesn't mean the kid is the best, just that he is given the best chance because of $$$$$. Wonder if there is any pro-bono work here?
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