Two Defensive Coaching slots to fill?

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dinan3
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Calbears.com updated the 2014 Coaching Staff and it includes Art Kaufman, but not Andy Buh. This may mean Cal is looking for two more coaches - or not.

It would be awkward having Buh on the staff under the new DC. Maybe some thought to moving Buh along to other pastures, which would include some salary reduction similar to what was negotiated with JT.

Just stirring the pot................
Davidson
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it's not out of the question, ive heard a reference to "at least one spot" to fill
StillNoStanfurdium
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dinan3;842268928 said:

Calbears.com updated the 2014 Coaching Staff and it includes Art Kaufman, but not Andy Buh. This may mean Cal is looking for two more coaches - or not.

It would be awkward having Buh on the staff under the new DC. Maybe some thought to moving Buh along to other pastures, which would include some salary reduction similar to what was negotiated with JT.

Just stirring the pot................

http://www.calbears.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=749428&SPID=126513&DB_OEM_ID_COUNT_=2&DB_OEM_ID_1_=30100&DB_OEM_ID=30100&DB_OEM_ID_0_=30100&Q_SEASON=2014

Looks like Buh has eligibility and they've listed him on the roster for 2014.
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dinan3;842268928 said:

Calbears.com updated the 2014 Coaching Staff and it includes Art Kaufman, but not Andy Buh. This may mean Cal is looking for two more coaches - or not.

It would be awkward having Buh on the staff under the new DC. Maybe some thought to moving Buh along to other pastures, which would include some salary reduction similar to what was negotiated with JT.

Just stirring the pot................


Buh went from being DC at Nevada to LB coach at Wisconsin. Plus I met the guy and he seems very humble. Remember on The Drive he actually said, "I'm sorry," to Sonny Dykes on the sideline. That was unnecessary, but I felt that it was kind of refreshing to hear that kind of humility and responsibility for what was happening on the field. So if anyone could be demoted and yet be OK with it, it may be Buh. Plus Buh seems to be in his element just coaching the LBs so why pay him and not have that extra personnel at our disposal? Kaufman will have to oversee all units anyway so having a LB guy in Buh would be very helpful.
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KoreAmBear;842268935 said:

Buh went from being DC at Nevada to LB coach at Wisconsin. Plus I met the guy and he seems very humble. Remember on The Drive he actually said, "I'm sorry," to Sonny Dykes on the sideline. That was unnecessary, but I felt that it was kind of refreshing to hear that kind of humility and responsibility for what was happening on the field. So if anyone could be demoted and yet be OK with it, it may be Buh. Plus Buh seems to be in his element just coaching the LBs so why pay him and not have that extra personnel at our disposal? Kaufman will have to oversee all units anyway so having a LB guy in Buh would be very helpful.


He seems like a likeable, candid guy. That's nice, but maybe that's not what we need right now.

I feel the same way about this as when Sonny brought in his own staff. The new DC should be able to bring in his own people. If he wants Buh to stay, great. If he's told he has to take Buh, not great.
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Ace4eVer;842268936 said:

He seems like a likeable, candid guy. That's nice, but maybe that's not what we need right now.

I feel the same way about this as when Sonny brought in his own staff. The new DC should be able to bring in his own people. If he wants Buh to stay, great. If he's told he has to take Buh, not great.


Well, that was all figured out before he came here and he accepted the job so whatever the decision was, he is all in. Buh or no Buh. I intuitively think Buh is probably a fairly good position coach but was totally not ready for a promotion so he can now focus on a specific area.
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Cal_Fan2;842268938 said:

Well, that was all figured out before he came here and he accepted the job so whatever the decision was, he is all in. Buh or no Buh. I intuitively think Buh is probably a fairly good position coach but was totally not ready for a promotion so he can now focus on a specific area.


On the other hand, the LB position was pretty horrible (I'd say second to the DBs) so you would think his area of expertise would have actually been solid. I'm not saying they had to be world beaters with sacks and TFLs. They just had to stay in their lanes and contain, which they didn't, play after play for the whole season.
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KoreAmBear;842268940 said:

On the other hand, the LB position was pretty horrible (I'd say second to the DBs) so you would think his area of expertise would have actually been solid. I'm not saying they had to be world beaters with sacks and TFLs. They just had to stay in their lanes and contain, which they didn't, play after play for the whole season.


I thought of that and I'm not a football expert but I think the whole system broke down thus every position was compromised......
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KoreAmBear;842268935 said:

Buh went from being DC at Nevada to LB coach at Wisconsin. Plus I met the guy and he seems very humble. Remember on The Drive he actually said, "I'm sorry," to Sonny Dykes on the sideline. That was unnecessary, but I felt that it was kind of refreshing to hear that kind of humility and responsibility for what was happening on the field. So if anyone could be demoted and yet be OK with it, it may be Buh. Plus Buh seems to be in his element just coaching the LBs so why pay him and not have that extra personnel at our disposal? Kaufman will have to oversee all units anyway so having a LB guy in Buh would be very helpful.

+1 I have heard the same thing about coach Buh.
Ace4eVer
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Cal_Fan2;842268938 said:

Well, that was all figured out before he came here and he accepted the job so whatever the decision was, he is all in. Buh or no Buh. I intuitively think Buh is probably a fairly good position coach but was totally not ready for a promotion so he can now focus on a specific area.


I was wondering if that was what caused the delay in announcement. I just don't want to get in a situation where we have another horrible year, and Kaufman sacrifices Buh and Chachere and to bring in his own guys.
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StillNoStanfurdium;842268934 said:

http://www.calbears.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=749428&SPID=126513&DB_OEM_ID_COUNT_=2&DB_OEM_ID_1_=30100&DB_OEM_ID=30100&DB_OEM_ID_0_=30100&Q_SEASON=2014

Looks like Buh has eligibility and they've listed him on the roster for 2014.

If people are missing what I'm saying here it's that Buh's omission might be just because someone made a mistake on coding the site. He's randomly listed in the roster for next season. Does that mean he actually will be playing? No. Similarly his lack of inclusion on the coaches page might not mean anything either.
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KoreAmBear;842268940 said:

On the other hand, the LB position was pretty horrible (I'd say second to the DBs) so you would think his area of expertise would have actually been solid. I'm not saying they had to be world beaters with sacks and TFLs. They just had to stay in their lanes and contain, which they didn't, play after play for the whole season.


This is what I can't figure out either. He's a LBer coach previously, they hired 2 coaches to coach the D-line, so I assume he was working as the LBer coach again.

Maybe he thought he could do both and wound up being unable to do either.
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Ace4eVer;842268947 said:

This is what I can't figure out either. He's a LBer coach previously, they hired 2 coaches to coach the D-line, so I assume he was working as the LBer coach again.

Maybe he thought he could do both and wound up being unable to do either.


This was what I wanted to say but you said it better than me.
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KoreAmBear;842268940 said:

On the other hand, the LB position was pretty horrible (I'd say second to the DBs) so you would think his area of expertise would have actually been solid. I'm not saying they had to be world beaters with sacks and TFLs. They just had to stay in their lanes and contain, which they didn't, play after play for the whole season.


There are a lot of variables. Who knows if being the DC took too much time away from him that he wasn't able to give the LBs enough time. Maybe our LB's were instinctive and didn't follow instructions well. I mean, staying in your assigned gap is all about discipline - personal discipline. If you know the call and your assignment, there is no excuse. Absent doing the complete wrong thing, the biggest issue that can be fixed is proper alignment.

I had a chance to break down some game tape a few years back with one of our defensive assistants. Almost every time we had a less than positive play on defense (say a run of 4+ yards) it almost always came down to a LB who didn't fill his gap responsibility being slightly out of position pre-snap. If you are lined up just two inches off to one side from where you are supposed to be, it makes it just a little easier for the OL to reach and seal you on the block, whereas had you been properly aligned, you would have beaten that reach block and been there to disrupt the play. Or it makes you just a hair late, so you don't fill your lane, and that results in a 5 yard gain. Or you lose backside contain and the RB cuts back on you because you over-pursued. etc. etc.

This game (especially on defense) is really so much about following instruction, reading your keys, getting lined up properly, and then just reacting to the ball. If everyone does that in concert, you have a successful play. One guy screws up, and the whole thing goes to crap.

I'm hoping that Buh can focus on getting these guys to trust their keys and work in harmony together. Or someone else comes in and does it. The thing is, the system itself is actually pretty simple. So the guys just need to execute. Maybe he's a bad teacher at technique, and that's the problem - that once the whistle blows, we aren't able to defeat those blocks because our players don't have the tools to do it. I have no idea. But you're right, something needs to change.
calbear93
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Maybe they are trying to decide which position he will coach if he stays. Just because he was once a LB coach does not mean that he has to coach the LBs in 2014. It may be up to Art to decide where Buh's services are needed. Until they decide, maybe they will keep him off the roster of coaches.
bonsallbear
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Under Kaufman, Buh has a chance to learn from one of the best. It would be in his best interests to be humble / accept his demotion graciously / and get on with learning the system! THE ART KAUFMAN SYSTEM!!!
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We need more speed at linebacker. We need more speed at defensive back. Defense is not hard if you pressure the passer and cover down field. We did neither last year and therefore did not stop anyone. Welcome coach Kaufman.
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The undisciplined play of the linebackers was baffling last year!!!
Jefferson and Barton and hopefully a healthy Forbes is a group that seems like is talented enough to perform at a high level. Throw in an athletic Atoe and Gibson maybe and I want to see what Kaufman can do with this area!
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Buh was the total reason we had the worst defense in the history of Cal football. NOT!!!

We had injuries on defense beyond anything anticipated; we used freshmen where we had previously used upper classmen; we used walk-ons in place of veterans; we had one of the hardest schedules in the country; we were instituting a new defensive system; and, on and on....

The point is if you expect Art Kaufman to bring about a dramatic change look also to the players he has available to him. This fixation on Kaufman to right the wrongs of last season is subject to a lot of variables. Health restored we should be able to plug-in former starters; with seven home games and two BYEs we have plenty of opportunity to demonstrate our strength; last year gave an unprecedented number of second and third string players playing time so that they don't show up terrified when called upon in 2014; an easier schedule in September and October ought to build our confidence for the more difficult games later on in the season.

I don't blame Buh for the horrible results. Everyone has a share of the s**t we displayed in 2013. If he stays I hope he is able to re-establish his credibility as a LB coach. This is his career and I wouldn't like to see the guy fail to get jobs in the future.
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Physically talented LBs were undisciplined under a regime that didn't have a full time 100% dedicated position coach. Sometimes it isn't any more complex than 1+1=2.
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89Bear;842268971 said:

The undisciplined play of the linebackers was baffling last year!!!
Jefferson and Barton and hopefully a healthy Forbes is a group that seems like is talented enough to perform at a high level. Throw in an athletic Atoe and Gibson maybe and I want to see what Kaufman can do with this area!


Nickerson Jr. started to make some plays too. I know people don't seem to be high on Lucas King, but I thought he played well at times.
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dinan3;842268928 said:

Calbears.com updated the 2014 Coaching Staff and it includes Art Kaufman, but not Andy Buh. This may mean Cal is looking for two more coaches - or not.
Just stirring the pot................


Buh is currently listed at "Assistant Coach".

StillNoStanfurdium;842268934 said:

http://www.calbears.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=749428&SPID=126513&DB_OEM_ID_COUNT_=2&DB_OEM_ID_1_=30100&DB_OEM_ID=30100&DB_OEM_ID_0_=30100&Q_SEASON=2014
Looks like Buh has eligibility and they've listed him on the roster for 2014.

This seems to have been fixed now, Buh is no longer listed on the player roster.
StillNoStanfurdium
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Cal Geek;842269022 said:

Buh is currently listed at "Assistant Coach".


This seems to have been fixed now, Buh is no longer listed.

Dang, they move surprisingly quick on that.

Also interesting is that by the position of his name on the coaches page they still put him on the same level as the DC/OC.
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KoreAmBear;842269017 said:

Nickerson Jr. started to make some plays too. I know people don't seem to be high on Lucas King, but I thought he played well at times.


Lucas King graduated and won't be coming back.
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6bear6;842268972 said:

Buh was the total reason we had the worst defense in the history of Cal football. NOT!!!

We had injuries on defense beyond anything anticipated; we used freshmen where we had previously used upper classmen; we used walk-ons in place of veterans; we had one of the hardest schedules in the country; we were instituting a new defensive system; and, on and on....

The point is if you expect Art Kaufman to bring about a dramatic change look also to the players he has available to him. This fixation on Kaufman to right the wrongs of last season is subject to a lot of variables. Health restored we should be able to plug-in former starters; with seven home games and two BYEs we have plenty of opportunity to demonstrate our strength; last year gave an unprecedented number of second and third string players playing time so that they don't show up terrified when called upon in 2014; an easier schedule in September and October ought to build our confidence for the more difficult games later on in the season.

I don't blame Buh for the horrible results. Everyone has a share of the s**t we displayed in 2013. If he stays I hope he is able to re-establish his credibility as a LB coach. This is his career and I wouldn't like to see the guy fail to get jobs in the future.


This is a reasonable post.
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6bear6;842268972 said:


I don't blame Buh for the horrible results. Everyone has a share of the s**t we displayed in 2013. If he stays I hope he is able to re-establish his credibility as a LB coach. This is his career and I wouldn't like to see the guy fail to get jobs in the future.


if i had to guess, hes probably an excellent linebackers coach, which is why he got our DC job to begin with.

akina(everyones wish list guy) is actually a horrible DC, but excellent position coach as well
txwharfrat
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Are there really any guarantees that Buh and Sash are staying? We might have 3 new defensive coaches by Feb 5th.
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