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Season openers have been scheduled for Sept. 19, or what would have been Week Three on the original 2020 calendar.

The start date gives the conference time to ride out the current coronavirus surges; teams would not start formal training camp until the middle of August.

That phase of the process will require approval from health officials

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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wifeisafurd said:

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This is a piss poor job by Wilner of limiting expectations. When Greg says there is not optimism, I suggest that is a very accurate perspective in athletic departments, or at least in the four I know about.

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blungld said:

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As a temperature check on people's confidence, who would bet me that we have a season?

Not many I suspect.

I'll keep banging the play it in spring drum. I think player defection would be quite low since NFL will adjust draft to college football and they will want more tape on prospects. This would give all months to make an organized plan, the possibility of vaccine, and it will be the answer to a cool trivia question in 30+ years.

I would love to see Spring football once in my life. Would be one bit of novelty in a good way in this whole experience.

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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blungld said:

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As a temperature check on people's confidence, who would bet me that we have a season?

Not many I suspect.

I'll keep banging the play it in spring drum. I think player defection would be quite low since NFL will adjust draft to college football and they will want more tape on prospects. This would give all months to make an organized plan, the possibility of vaccine, and it will be the answer to a cool trivia question in 30+ years.

I would love to see Spring football once in my life. Would be one bit of novelty in a good way in this whole experience.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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blungld said:

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As a temperature check on people's confidence, who would bet me that we have a season?

Not many I suspect.

I'll keep banging the play it in spring drum. I think player defection would be quite low since NFL will adjust draft to college football and they will want more tape on prospects. This would give all months to make an organized plan, the possibility of vaccine, and it will be the answer to a cool trivia question in 30+ years.

I would love to see Spring football once in my life. Would be one bit of novelty in a good way in this whole experience.

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Wait, weren't you at these games?

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Bobodeluxe said:

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blungld said:

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I would love to see Spring football once in my life. Would be one bit of novelty in a good way in this whole experience.

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Wait, weren't you at these games?

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71Bear said:

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The problem with moving the season is the NFL. They have stated they will not move the draft...

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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Cal_79 said:

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Why? For what reason(s) would the NFL have to move the draft?

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Cal_79 said:

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Thanks. And how would holding the draft in April kill the college game?

There would certainly be an impact in 2021 because many NFL hopefuls would skip a spring season, but not seeing how an April draft kills college football. How much disruption to it's 2021 season would the NFL be willing to accept by pushing back the draft? How many NFL hopefuls would be willing to skip preparations for the combine, not to mention the risk of injury, right before the draft?

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Sebastabear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Why? For what reason(s) would the NFL have to move the draft?

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The theory is that the NFL very much likes the free farm league (I.e. colleges) they rely on to vet their players and would like to not kill it. They will make some accommodations to make sure the college model continues in its present form. Tend to agree that's how this would shake out.

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wifeisafurd said:

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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Well I could not agree more. I don't think the fall season is going to happen for the Pac and a lot of other conferences. But if the SEC decides it will have a season, because it is the SEC, the ACC will follow because it has Clemson and Notre Dame that it wants to keep happy. And then there is Texas that said yesterday day they will have their normal season...talk about denial. But if Texas and Oklahoma schools play, then there will be a championship. You pretty much have everyone that matters other than Ohio State. Weird scenario, but clearly the conferences are not acting in unison, and the SEC commissioner has gone out of his way to say whatever the Pac and Big 10 do doesn't impact the SEC, because, we are the SEC.

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71Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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Well I could not agree more. I don't think the fall season is going to happen for the Pac and a lot of other conferences. But if the SEC decides it will have a season, because it is the SEC, the ACC will follow because it has Clemson and Notre Dame that it wants to keep happy. And then there is Texas that said yesterday day they will have their normal season...talk about denial. But if Texas and Oklahoma schools play, then there will be a championship. You pretty much have everyone that matters other than Ohio State. Weird scenario, but clearly the conferences are not acting in unison, and the SEC commissioner has gone out of his way to say whatever the Pac and Big 10 do doesn't impact the SEC, because, we are the SEC.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/07/14/college-football-2020-sec-trouble-covid-19-outbreak/5432797002/

The SEC's problem is geography. They play in the virus capital of the US - the Southeast....

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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71Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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Well I could not agree more. I don't think the fall season is going to happen for the Pac and a lot of other conferences. But if the SEC decides it will have a season, because it is the SEC, the ACC will follow because it has Clemson and Notre Dame that it wants to keep happy. And then there is Texas that said yesterday day they will have their normal season...talk about denial. But if Texas and Oklahoma schools play, then there will be a championship. You pretty much have everyone that matters other than Ohio State. Weird scenario, but clearly the conferences are not acting in unison, and the SEC commissioner has gone out of his way to say whatever the Pac and Big 10 do doesn't impact the SEC, because, we are the SEC.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/07/14/college-football-2020-sec-trouble-covid-19-outbreak/5432797002/

The SEC's problem is geography. They play in the virus capital of the US - the Southeast....

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Big C said:

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OaktownBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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71Bear said:

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BearGreg said:

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Some additions:

- Cal's opener will be scheduled as September 19th. Optimism is not high that we're on a trend line to allow that to happen
- There are three weeks of flex that would allow the start of the ten-game P12 only season to be pushed out and still get a P12 championship game completed before Bowl season
- Those three weeks may prove critical in allowing the season to take place this Fall if the trend lines on new COVID cases can start heading the right way
- Fall camps are allowed to begin 29 days prior to the first game, so August 21st.
- Prior to camp, teams are allowed to do block work - Film study and walkthroughs of plays and alignment to help players with the missed time from the Spring on the critical mental side of things
- That would be a week to ten days prior to the start of camp
- Officials will need to make a call on the start of the season prior so think August 10th to 14th. That could be a.) we're a go on September 19th, b.) we're pushing out 1 to three weeks or c.) we're punting to the Spring.

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Per The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach, the date of decision whether to move forward is August 4th (the NCAA Board of Governors meeting).

Note: The Board of Governors is also meeting tomorrow but is expected to table a decision until Aug. 4. Also, of course, the NCAA has no authority over the CFP since it is run by a different organization. However, if the NCAA wipes out the FCS playoffs along with D2 and D3 as well as all other fall sports, it will put big time pressure on the P5 conferences to move football to the spring.

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Agree '71, subject to health authorities exercising veto powers. Also, the NCAA needs to get past their earlier pronouncement of no live classes, no sports.

That said, the SEC will do whatever it wants, because it can. One problem, a major source of non-conference cream puffs, the SWAC, is delaying to Spring to play.

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I don't know. If the SEC wants to win a national championship and none of the rest of the nation is playing until spring, they can't exactly do that.

Here's the thing. I know it seems like forever, but we are basically 5 months from when Covid hit the US. Everywhere else that got hit that early is way over the curve. We have the problem right now that we are having a second round in places that didn't get hit hard initially. No one can predict where this thing is going to go, but chances are in 6 months we will have taken the worst and while we won't be back to normal we will be a lot closer to it. I think there is a reasonable shot we could maintain a normal schedule in the Spring where that is just not going to happen in the fall. I'd much rather play a normal season starting in February or March than play some limited haphazard thing in September.

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If we play a season, say, next Feb-April, do we then (pandemic permitting) play a regularly scheduled season in the fall of 2021? Is this maybe too much football in one year for the players?

What about for the fans? We finish a season, then start a new one four months later? Change is difficult for me! I suppose, if necessary, it's the best option, out of an array of imperfect options...

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KoreAmBear said:

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I got 2 season passes I am not using for Tightwad Hill. I will part with them for $500 each OBO. My section is close to but not in the path of the Cannon. I may throw in some Top Dog delivered by Postmates if you act quickly.

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