A national search is underway. The Cal job is the most attractive out there.

Sandy has got to get this right for a variety of reasons. Her job is on the line based upon the disaster that is football (both academics and performance).The Athletic Department is under financial duress. And the tension between our faculty and athletic administration is acute.

IF we go with Travis it will likely mean our budget for this position is 1.2 or less. IF it's Travis it will likely mean that Sandy values continuity and Monty's recommendation over all other factors. This option may arguably be the least risky for Sandy and the most risky for the Program...

IF we go for a former head coach like a Jeff Capel, Joe Pasternak, or Ben Howland it will likely mean the budget is higher, perhaps in the 1.5 range.

IF we go for a current head coach like a Tad Boyle, Larry Krystkowiak, or Tommy Amaker we would need to offer an attractive enough package to entice the candidate to leave a good situation.

IF we go the former Cal player route like Shareef, Gates, or Kiwi it would seem to be both risky and a high ceiling.

The dream candidates mentioned like Jay Wright, Shakka Smart and Jaime Dixon are unrealistic and are a waste of time...

I have no good answers but might lean toward Jeff Capel for his recruiting ability and previous head coach experience...

I really hope Joe Pasternack is not the best we can do.

Is her job really on the line though? I get why it would be at many places, but not convinced with as much here.

You don't make any sense. Already been mentioned thatAmaker won't be leaving Harvard as his wife holds a high position at Harvard as well. Boyle?! Where did you get that from?

bigcocoon007;842300444 said:

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You don't make any sense. Already been mentioned thatAmaker won't be leaving Harvard as his wife holds a high position at Harvard as well. Boyle?! Where did you get that from?

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Not advocating for Amaker but it is often standard academic practice to find spots for the "trailing spouse" (no, I didn't make up that term - have heard it thrown around a bunch in university settings). So his wife's job isn't as much of a killer as it would be in other professions/settings.

DWM81;842300438 said:

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A national search is underway. The Cal job is the most attractive out there.

Sandy has got to get this right for a variety of reasons. Her job is on the line based upon the disaster that is football (both academics and performance).The Athletic Department is under financial duress. And the tension between our faculty and athletic administration is acute.

IF we go with Travis it will likely mean our budget for this position is 1.2 or less. IF it's Travis it will likely mean that Sandy values continuity and Monty's recommendation over all other factors. This option may arguably be the least risky for Sandy and the most risky for the Program...

IF we go for a former head coach like a Jeff Capel, Joe Pasternak, or Ben Howland it will likely mean the budget is higher, perhaps in the 1.5 range.

IF we go for a current head coach like a Tad Boyle, Larry Krystkowiak, or Tommy Amaker we would need to offer an attractive enough package to entice the candidate to leave a good situation.

IF we go the former Cal player route like Shareef, Gates, or Kiwi it would seem to be both risky and a high ceiling.

The dream candidates mentioned like Jay Wright, Shakka Smart and Jaime Dixon are unrealistic and are a waste of time...

I have no good answers but might lean toward Jeff Capel for his recruiting ability and previous head coach experience...

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Capel would be my choice. Well-known name from Duke days as a player and from his coaching family background. Four-year record at VCU was very solid. First three years at Oklahoma were also excellent. Smart guy who is still young enough to relate to players.

bigcocoon007;842300444 said:

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You don't make any sense. Already been mentioned thatAmaker won't be leaving Harvard as his wife holds a high position at Harvard as well. Boyle?! Where did you get that from?

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Amaker is also really good friends with Dawkins and doesn't want to play against him twice a year.

Boyle has never been mentioned as a candidate by anyone. Boyle is very unlikely to leave CU for a job within the conference unless it's UCLA or Arizona.

Can someone explain the enamor of Larry Krystkowiak coming to Cal? Utah hasn't made it to the Big Dance since he's been HC nor have they done anything to impress me. His team finish in the bottom of the P12.

But this might be moot as he is getting a 5yr extension [http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/57769738-89/krystkowiak-deal-hill-season.html.csp]

GoCalBears;842300451 said:

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Can someone explain the enamor of Larry Krystkowiak coming to Cal? Utah hasn't made it to the Big Dance since he's been HC nor have they done anything to impress me. His team finish in the bottom of the P12.

But this might be moot as he is getting a 5yr extension [http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/57769738-89/krystkowiak-deal-hill-season.html.csp]

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LOL, we got him more money.

He's an attractive candidate because he has Utah on an upward trajectory. If he can keep Utah on that slope, which is looking likely, he's sure to get even more interest in the coming years.

RE: Larry K, his NBA pedigree doesn't hurt and he seems to be a no nonsense coach like Monty. Seems like he can get his kids to play hard and pretty smart. Can he recruit?

tsubamoto2001;842300453 said:

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LOL, we got him more money.

He's an attractive candidate because he has Utah on an upward trajectory. If he can keep Utah on that slope, which is looking likely, he's sure to get even more interest in the coming years.

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But the million dollar question is how long can Cal fans wait for immediate success (i.e. deep run in the NCAA or P12 title consecutive years). It took MM 6 years to get where we are at; even with the impressive resume he has had.

I rather have Tad Boyle if we're hiring from within P12. His style of play would do well with the players we have.

Dick Kutchen was a much hearlded Assistant at Notre Dame and look what that got us. I think we need a recruitter, above all else. Someone who is willing to do what it takes to get the stars. If it takes 40 visits to a guys home, thats what we have to do ala Steve Fisher.

Who went to the kids homes? Travis or Monty, that is the question. Who decided how much effort should have been put into recruiting? Who decided one and dones won't be acceptable?

We need a faster paced offense, especially with Bird who excels in the open court along with Tyrone Wallace.We need an offense kids WANT to play in so they will come here. As much as I like Montgomery, not sure his offense was a real draw to the Elite players.

If we can't get an "A" coach (A+ coaches like Shaka and the rest are not an option), with buy-in from the major donors, then it'll be Travis.

oskidunker;842300465 said:

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Dick Kutchen was a much hearlded Assistant at Notre Dame and look what that got us. I think we need a recruitter, above all else. Someone who is willing to do what it takes to get the stars. If it takes 40 visits to a guys home, thats what we have to do ala Steve Fisher.

Who went to the kids homes? Travis or Monty, that is the question. Who decided how much effort should have been put into recruiting? Who decided one and dones won't be acceptable?

We need a faster paced offense, especially with Bird who excels in the open court along with Tyrone Wallace.We need an offense kids WANT to play in so they will come here. As much as I like Montgomery, not sure his offense was a real draw to the Elite players.

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Agree with all.

You know who I would get opinions from? Carl Bird and Mathew's dad. Both guys seem like they have been to the rodeo before. Sandy would do well to reach out and get a 10 minute honest take on the dynamics both of them observed during the recruitment process and after their son's first year in the program.

tsubamoto2001;842300453 said:

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LOL, we got him more money.

He's an attractive candidate because he has Utah on an upward trajectory. If he can keep Utah on that slope, which is looking likely, he's sure to get even more interest in the coming years.

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What do you think of another Utah based Monty disciple: Stew Morrill? He's pretty much God in Logan, so not sure he wants to ruin that gig. Plus part of his program formula is to bring back 28 year old grown men after their mission to pound the rest of the MWC.

GoCalBears;842300463 said:

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But the million dollar question is how long can Cal fans wait for immediate success (i.e. deep run in the NCAA or P12 title consecutive years). It took MM 6 years to get where we are at; even with the impressive resume he has had.

I rather have Tad Boyle if we're hiring from within P12. His style of play would do well with the players we have.

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If history is any indication, Cal fans can wait a long, long time for real success in basketball! One Sweet 16 and one conference championship in 50 years?

CaliforniaEternal;842300475 said:

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If history is any indication, Cal fans can wait a long, long time for real success in basketball! One Sweet 16 and one conference championship in 50 years?

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Well, 2 Sweet 16s in 50 years technically, LOL.

GoCalBears;842300463 said:

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But the million dollar question is how long can Cal fans wait for immediate success (i.e. deep run in the NCAA or P12 title consecutive years). It took MM 6 years to get where we are at; even with the impressive resume he has had.

I rather have Tad Boyle if we're hiring from within P12. His style of play would do well with the players we have.

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The utah coach inherited one of the worst teams in Pac-12 history and in short time had them within a few wins of the tournament.

If he came to Cal, it would be a much easier turnaround

OneTopOneChickenApple;842300441 said:

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I really hope Joe Pasternack is not the best we can do.

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I can almost guarantee that Joe Pasternack will not be considered.

Do people already forget?

ducky23;842300484 said:

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I can almost guarantee that Joe Pasternack will not be considered.

Do people already forget?

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I'd rather have another former AZ assistant, Josh Pastner.

Maybe Sandy will look to La Tech again with coach White... The Dunkin' Dawgs coach.

Michael White 2011present 3 74W 31L .705

And for an opposing view point....I disagree. Fisher was at ground zero for one of the great pay for play scandals at Michigan and I don't want him anywhere near the Cal program. And I don't want any candidate that reminds me of Fisher or Bozeman. Phrases like "do what it takes" scare me - thats what Bozeman did and he brought us Jelani Gardner and Tremaine Folkes. And probation. Give me somebody from Monty's coaching tree or Coach K's tree - somebody who teaches the game but balances it with ethics.

socaltownie;842300467 said:

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Agree with all.

You know who I would get opinions from? Carl Bird and Mathew's dad. Both guys seem like they have been to the rodeo before. Sandy would do well to reach out and get a 10 minute honest take on the dynamics both of them observed during the recruitment process and after their son's first year in the program.

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+1 This insight stands out, in a very positive way, from the crowd

oskidunker;842300465 said:

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Hire Travis or a Proven coach

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+1 ...solid credentials and continuity or proven...no rethreads like Howland.

KoreAmBear;842300491 said:

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I'd rather have another former AZ assistant, Josh Pastner.

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They're two different guys? I always get them confused. Wait, isn't one the guy that was here under Braun?

DWM81;842300438 said:

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A national search is underway. The Cal job is the most attractive out there.

Sandy has got to get this right for a variety of reasons. Her job is on the line.

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Cal might be the "most attractive" job that is currently available, but that doesn't mean it's a good job or one that might be desirable. Could very well be the best of a bunch of bad or tough gigs.

Is Sandy's job on the line? This isn't Alabama. Doesn't feel like they're storming the AD with pitchforks and torches.

Big C_Cal;842300522 said:

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They're two different guys? I always get them confused. Wait, isn't one the guy that was here under Braun?

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Pasternack = video boy under Braun, Roxy Bernstein's bro-in-law, and guy who tried to kick Jorge as AZ assistant. Head coach at New Orleans.



Josh Pastner was a player under Lute I believe, and then AZ assistant coach for many years. He is now the Memphis head coach and still looks like he's in 12th grade.

LocoOso;842300533 said:

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Cal might be the "most attractive" job that is currently available, but that doesn't mean it's a good job or one that might be desirable. Could very well be the best of a bunch of bad or tough gigs.

Is Sandy's job on the line? This isn't Alabama. Doesn't feel like they're storming the AD with pitchforks and torches.

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Well.....

Lets say Sonny hits expectations and gets it up to 3 wins. The Hire for BB implodes with transfers, releases, and walk ons playing and 10 wins.

You think Sandy survives THAT???!!

Makes about 2.5 at Memphis. He is not coming to Cal under any scenario...

DWM81;842300545 said:

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Makes about 2.5 at Memphis. He is not coming to Cal under any scenario...

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Agreed. That is a hard one to see happening.

Thinking that 'dream candidates' are a waste of time will result in the program being mired in mediocrity.

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Thinking that 'dream candidates' are a waste of time will result in the program being mired in mediocrity.

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Fine. I _DONT_ think someone coming from a "school" like Memphis is a dream candidate. The difference between it and Cal is vast and deep. Would I take him for 1.5 with a short leash contract we could terminate in year 3 through 5? Sure. But even I, king of nega bear and high expectations don't think THAT is in the cards.

Why a guy like Shaka _IS_ worth the reach is that he is seen, nearly universally, as the best guy coaching at a non-power conference school. He gets great things out of his team. He SEEMS to prioritize education. It would be an immediate statement as to just how much the university and the department were striving to be the very best example of a successful program. Why I love/loved James Franklin in football as well.

Deutsch;842300550 said:

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Thinking that 'dream candidates' are a waste of time will result in the program being mired in mediocrity.

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Considering the challenges at Cal, it will take a lot of money to bring in a "dream candidate"---more than it would take at a more typical program. If we had a sugar daddy, okay. But we settled for Dykes, who was hardly a sure thing.

What would it take to lure Shaka? He's turned down offers at more attractive basketball programs. I'm sure $10 million would, but there's no way we're paying that. What's the lowest that he'd take to come to Cal? It's absolutely higher than what we can/will pay.

DWM81;842300545 said:

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Makes about 2.5 at Memphis. He is not coming to Cal under any scenario...

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Not only does Pastner make $2.5 million at Memphis, he can basically recruit any player he wants due to almost non-existent academic hurdles at the school. Cannot see him recruiting those same players at Cal. He'd make much more sense at a place like USC, if Enfield can't get it going.

CalAlumnus13;842300561 said:

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Considering the challenges at Cal, it will take a lot of money to bring in a "dream candidate"---more than it would take at a more typical program. If we had a sugar daddy, okay. But we settled for Dykes, who was hardly a sure thing.

What would it take to lure Shaka? He's turned down offers at more attractive basketball programs. I'm sure $10 million would, but there's no way we're paying that. What's the lowest that he'd take to come to Cal? It's absolutely higher than what we can/will pay.

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I simply don't have (and none of us do) a clue what is motivating Shaka Smart. Maybe he is holding out for UNC (plausible). Maybe returning home to Ohio and getting the job eventually at tOSU is what he wants. Maybe he simply LOVES Richmond. We know he is a cerebral guy who has an intellectual for a wife and a very young child. While perhaps a fantasy land, I could absolutely see a guy who graduated from Kenyon and who has done academic work on social movements and history being attracted to a place like Cal. I know that sounds like a bunch of BS and wishful thinking but it isn't a stretch. It really depends on how he sees his life unfolding.