Last night got me thinking, after watching K-State out themselves as the worst fans in the Big 12 (LINK).

Who has the best and worst home crowd in our conference? Best as in loyal fans who create a home-court advantage in a non-embarrassing way? Worst as in spotty attendance, no-class behavior, or other no-nos?

Best: Arizona, but it's not the students it's the NBA team of a medium sized city Worst: USC and furd

Arizona, Cal and Utah have by far the best fan bases.

USC and Stanford are the worst and it's not even close.

Arizona is "best" in terms of support and hard to play against...but they are jerks. Maybe that's what it means to be a good crowd unfortunately.

I think the real home court advantages (altitude aside) are:
AZ, Oregon...and maybe Washington?

The decent are:
Cal, Colorado, Utah, ASU...maybe OSU?

The weak
Stanfurd, WSU, UCLA, USC

I'll add that Harmon at its peak 80-90s was top in the conference over AZ and Oregon and UCLA.

Only road PAC venues I've been to are UCLA, 'SC, and the farm. All were dead, but UCLA was better than 'SC and LSJU. All were weekend games, and none were remotely close to sell outs.

Have seen every PAC school play in Harmon/Haas and the only fan bases that ever show up are 'Zona, UO, and occassionally UCLA. While waiting for friends in front of Haas one rainy night, a buddy pointed out a scruffy looking guy patiently waiting alone in the will call line. Was Phil Knight, surprised he needed a ticket and didn't have a flunkie pick it up for him.

I think Oregon and UW are much less enthusiastic than they were prior to renovations in the last 10 year (as is Haas compared to Harmon). I have been to conference bball games at UW, Stanford, USC, UCLA & ASU in the last 8 years - UW and UCLA were comparable to a Haas crowd against WSU before students are on campus (weak). The others (Stan, USC & ASU) were honestly pathetic - The Cal fans were louder than the home crowd. Other than that, I have ranked them below based on my completely biased and subjective opinions from watching on TV when Cal plays them or the occasional TV viewing of conference games.


School..........Avg Attend.....%age Capacity
UTAH.............12709............85%
AZ................14503.............99%
Cal................9974..............84%
Colo..............8236..............75%
UW...............6734..............67%
Ore...............6773..............55%
UCLA.............8230..............64%
OSU..............6077..............63%
ASU..............5819..............54%
Stanford........4283..............59%
USC..............4174..............41%
WSU.............2843..............25%


Note: After posting above and noting the strong correlation with %age of capacity,.... UA fans tend to be the most blue-hair crowd and does not appear to have any college feel to it, but a 99% capacity 14,000+ arena is still better than Haas, IMHO. UCLA also suffers a bit from a poor seating arrangement with basketball. When I was a student (and started following P12); Oregon, OSU, UW, Harmon & UCLA were the cream of the crop. The other 5 (USC, ASU, UA, WSU & LSJU) were weak. Then Lute came and changed things at Arizona. Other than a few years when Monty had LSJU rolling, Maples has always been pretty weak, IMHO.

BeachedBear;842651633 said:

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I think Oregon and UW are much less enthusiastic than they were prior to renovations in the last 10 year (as is Haas compared to Harmon). I have been to conference bball games at UW, Stanford, USC, UCLA & ASU in the last 8 years - UW and UCLA were comparable to a Haas crowd against WSU before students are on campus (weak). The others (Stan, USC & ASU) were honestly pathetic - The Cal fans were louder than the home crowd. Other than that, I have ranked them below based on my completely biased and subjective opinions from watching on TV when Cal plays them or the occasional TV viewing of conference games.


School..........Avg Attend.....%age Capacity
UTAH.............12709............85%
AZ................14503.............99%
Cal................9974..............84%
Colo..............8236..............75%
UW...............6734..............67%
Ore...............6773..............55%
UCLA.............8230..............64%
OSU..............6077..............63%
ASU..............5819..............54%
Stanford........4283..............59%
USC..............4174..............41%
WSU.............2843..............25%


Note: After posting above and noting the strong correlation with %age of capacity,.... UA fans tend to be the most blue-hair crowd and does not appear to have any college feel to it, but a 99% capacity 14,000+ arena is still better than Haas, IMHO. UCLA also suffers a bit from a poor seating arrangement with basketball. When I was a student (and started following P12); Oregon, OSU, UW, Harmon & UCLA were the cream of the crop. The other 5 (USC, ASU, UA, WSU & LSJU) were weak. Then Lute came and changed things at Arizona. Other than a few years when Monty had LSJU rolling, Maples has always been pretty weak, IMHO.

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These numbers seem to be reported sold tickets, including season ticket no shows. I cannot believe that U$C's or 'furd's numbers are that high in average butts in the seats attendance.

OdontoBear66;842651653 said:

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These numbers seem to be reported sold tickets, including season ticket no shows. I cannot believe that U$C's or 'furd's numbers are that high in average butts in the seats attendance.

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Most definitely. But that is what I could find.

BearDevil;842651624 said:

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Only road PAC venues I've been to are UCLA, 'SC, and the farm. All were dead, but UCLA was better than 'SC and LSJU. All were weekend games, and none were remotely close to sell outs.

Have seen every PAC school play in Harmon/Haas and the only fan bases that ever show up are 'Zona, UO, and occassionally UCLA. While waiting for friends in front of Haas one rainy night, a buddy pointed out a scruffy looking guy patiently waiting alone in the will call line. Was Phil Knight, surprised he needed a ticket and didn't have a flunkie pick it up for him.

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Believe it or not I use to live next to Phil and Penny..they don't live in a gated community and he loves to go on walks daily. He's kind of a strange cat..but his wife is pretty cool.